Royal_Flush
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Things posted in GirlGAF belong staying there. It is a safe thread for the female neogaffers, who get excessive attention and scrutiny when they dare to contribute to the whole website.
Just assume that I am an ambassador for the sensitive ladies and they support everything I've told you since I started playing Mafia.
But "being more inclusive" is such a blank statement. You know me to a certain degree. I'm a white, cis-male, primary heterosexual physics student. I can't relate to girl-GAF's experience first-hand. Therefore I try to rationalize the situation and act according to some rules (like not calling you "arthur" or using the appropiate pronouns). But without concrete (maybe made-up) examples what's right and wrong behavior I can't. My instinctive attempt for "being more inclusive" would be to get rid of any pressure that could make the other person feel uncomfortable. But pressure is an important part of Mafia, and I also don't think that's what you actually mean. I assume it is annoying but you have to help us helping you.
E: ok, I just remembered you gave an example what pissed you off specifically but I have trouble transferring that to other players we might have driven away.
Without getting into a nature vs. nurture debate.
In English speaking countries, females receive different social training than males. And possibly there is inborn tendency to value social relationships over other considerations like position.
The tech industry and the videogame community are having similar issues with lack of female representation, and studies have been done that show the interest in the field can be easily squelched in females early in life. This is partly societal, but one study showed that even interested females would be turned off from joining tech related college majors by the simple method of making the environment visually exclude women.
Basically, if you don't make much effort to ALLOW the possibility of female participation, the environment will appear unpleasant from the outside, and the female demographic will self select out of the area.
I say Lost the Right because of the losses of previous participants who don't want to fight with y'all.
There will still be a certain percentage of females who will join. Statistically they are likely to be the boldest personalities. Tales from my ass suggest that you will be losing about 75% of the entire population by not making much effort to be inclusive.
Edit: whereas my ass says that only about 25% of males will be far enough to the 'sensitive' side of the emotional spectrum to self select away.
ok, so are we agreeing that the community as a whole doesn't treat players differently based on their gender? So it would be rather a matter of different genders on average perceiving the same behavior differently? And that would create kind of a positive-feedback-loop with players being ok with that behavior strengthening it once integrated in the community?