I didn't know art could appear on playmats and such without the artist knowing. Maybe explains some of the sour looking reactions I've seen from artists signing non card merchandise. And the glee with which some of them will modify and deface their own art on request.
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Magic: the Gathering - Battle for Zendikar |OT| Lands matter (but nothing else does)
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The Technomancer
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Well any art can technically show up on a playmant since you can get custom ones made (a friend of mine has Martial Law from RTR on one because it was the first card he ever got excited about) so if I was an artist I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that a playmat was licensed, but yeah it sounds like it sucks on that front
For my "surprise I'm better than you thought card", I'm going with the new Omnath for the moment. I've always loved creatures that give opponents a lose lose as far as do they leave it on the board or kill it off. As always I'll probably be the only person playing with the damn thing but sometimes I manage to somehow be right.
Etrian Oddity
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Return to New Phyrexia will be good; but I'm already ready for Return to Tarkir. 
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I dunno if they've cracked Return to Innistrad yet. They were talking about how they kind of screwed themselves in AVR by like...defeating all of the bad shit. There are no more werewolves and other stuff people would expect.
Have Garruk become the new bad. Garruk is probably the next walker to die anyway.
"God's Beard!"
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I'm sad that MTG artists can't use their artwork on playmats because I totally would have gotten a Swan Song one.
I'm not a big fan of using pre-existing art for custom playmats. Doesn't sit well with me.
I'm not a big fan of using pre-existing art for custom playmats. Doesn't sit well with me.
You would if it had logos plastered over the corners.
Boogalogist
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Uhhh...let's hope there's no return to Homelands.....
acheron_xl
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It would be like Coldsnap meets Innistrad. I can imagine worse things.
I wouldn't mind a return to homelands set, the plane hasn't been revisited and it had some interesting lore than could be expanded on.
Ulgrotha, whose name means "Garden", was a small backwater plane, far from Dominaria, sometimes called the "Homelands" by its inhabitants. Its mana lines were destroyed ages ago when Ravi rang the Apocalypse Chime, causing the Great Destruction and ending the Great War between the Tolgath and the Ancients.
Serra and Feroz tended this plane for some time as its guardians. Feroz, Serra's love, cast a magical barrier over the world to guard it from further despoil at the hands of wizards. Later Feroz died, and Serra left the plane in sadness. The countries of Ulgrotha then fell to inner conflict and Baron Sengir used this to tighten his grasp of fear over the plane.
Ulgrotha has at least one planar portal, which is located in the abandoned dwarven city under Castle Sengir. Where it leads is unknown, although we do know that Ulgrotha's dwarf population emigrated from beyond it.
Ulgrotha, whose name means "Garden", was a small backwater plane, far from Dominaria, sometimes called the "Homelands" by its inhabitants. Its mana lines were destroyed ages ago when Ravi rang the Apocalypse Chime, causing the Great Destruction and ending the Great War between the Tolgath and the Ancients.
Serra and Feroz tended this plane for some time as its guardians. Feroz, Serra's love, cast a magical barrier over the world to guard it from further despoil at the hands of wizards. Later Feroz died, and Serra left the plane in sadness. The countries of Ulgrotha then fell to inner conflict and Baron Sengir used this to tighten his grasp of fear over the plane.
Ulgrotha has at least one planar portal, which is located in the abandoned dwarven city under Castle Sengir. Where it leads is unknown, although we do know that Ulgrotha's dwarf population emigrated from beyond it.
charlequin
Banned
Innistrad was the first set of the seven-year plan so the absolute earliest we could return would be Barrel in Spring 2017. With the current story focus I don't think it's likely they'll wait until Soup in Spring 2018 to even get back to the Phyrexians, and I'm doubtful Rosewater put together a 7-year plan that didn't include checking back in on Magic's #1 villain.
charlequin
Banned
This and Dominaria are both hard to spot since they're more generic than most Magic planes and without seeing where they go with it it's not easy to guess what their "hook" would be.
charlequin
Banned
They wouldn't. They've written about how they created Innistrad instead of revisiting Ulgrotha so they wouldn't have to deal with all its weird rough edges (like, why are there Oceanic Minotaurs again?) If they wanted to do something with Baron Sengir for some crazy reason they've already established a route off-world for him.
Right, there was some portal. Yeah, no need to return to that set then.
It will probably be released in the fall of 2017 like the original to coincide with Halloween. The success of Innistrad means that it's return probably got fast tracked.
Also I never said we wouldn't see the Phyrexians. I think they definitely show up sometime in the next year and a half. I just don't think we're going back to the plane just yet. It doesn't seem like it'd make much for a story because either the characters go back and defeat them, which doesn't seem likely, or the characters go back and lose, which doesn't really advance the narrative unless they want to kill off some more planeswalkers.
They can easily undo AVR through various means. Hell, from a story point of view AVR is supposed to be undone because Avacyn was created to balance Innistrad so both humans and vampires had stable populations.
Being able to swing after a board wipe is pretty cool... But needing 9 mana for that is blech. Might be cool if the format really slows down though.
Speaking of homelands, my playgroup used to love to draft shitty sets. We did ice age, fallen empires, saviors of kamigawa, and wanted to do homelands but couldn't find a box for a reasonable price. It was interesting being forced to play with all those terrible cards and try to make the best out of them.
We also did a Urza's Legacy draft and were kinda surprised to find we enjoyed the ice age draft more.
We also did a Urza's Legacy draft and were kinda surprised to find we enjoyed the ice age draft more.
As long as Khans of Tarkir stays in standard (which is until the block after BFZ releases) the 5 ally fetch lands are still playable in it.
Seraphis Cain
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Christ, I can only imagine what a Fallen Empires draft would be like. There's maybe five good cards in the whole set. Hell, I remember back in 1996, the local card shop had already marked down packs of FE to like $1.50. Nobody wanted that shit. When a common is the most valuable card from the set, you know something's wrong. :lol
It wasnt too bad. I mean yeah the cards are garbage and from that perspective it was awful. But figuring out how to turn those crap cards into something usable was an entertaining exercise.
acheron_xl
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Fallen Empires is a surprisingly playable set. Especially in limited.
Yeah it was fun to see some cards that were useless in the larger scheme of the game suddenly become useful and fun to play with within the set.
Keeping that Ebon Praetor alive with thrulls was fun.
And trying to figure out banding. Considering how complicated the game has gotten since, it's hilarious how much banding confused us.
Keeping that Ebon Praetor alive with thrulls was fun.
And trying to figure out banding. Considering how complicated the game has gotten since, it's hilarious how much banding confused us.
I bought a couple of these (none recently, though), but actually for the last two years or so I've just been 'selling' the booster packs back to the store I buy from for their normal sale price, so the precons end up costing me like CAD$6.50. I can basically get three or four precons for the price of a Duel Deck atm.
The duel decks are great but they're so heavily themed that, in my experience, they don't really hold up in FFA multi, which is usually what we play.
We'll probably see creature destruction with a rider if the creature is also a land.
"~ deals 4 damage to target creature. If that creature is a land, it also deals 3 damage to that creature's controller."
That sort of thing.
This reminds me, a Dryad Arbor reprint would be sweet.
If we blow up tango lands, can we say "Tango Down"?
So I don't know how much it's discussed here, or at all, but I tend to be more intrigued by the value aspect of Magic versus actually playing it nowadays.
So I'm wondering what the general thoughts are about card value given the spoilers we've seen so far. I know it's hard to predict something like that, but I'm wondering what the general feeling is like given this is a shift to a new block format and schedule.
So I'm wondering what the general thoughts are about card value given the spoilers we've seen so far. I know it's hard to predict something like that, but I'm wondering what the general feeling is like given this is a shift to a new block format and schedule.
The only thing you should be looking for here is a Hangarback Walker/Goyf- an absurdly undervalued card on Day 1 you can get super cheap.
Long term prices for this set will be abnormally low.
All the value will be in the super duper special deluxe premium foil full art lands. Yours for only $1000 a playset!
That would be the lamest. MaRo pls
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Shandalar seems a lot more generic these days than Dominaria is since Dominaria currently fulfills the role of "Post Apocalyptic World" I suppose.
Also, lol @
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
BOOM!
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Hmm...that's not a bad body for Hexproof.
EDIT: The wording on bring to light is weird. Does exiling it mean that I can play it whenever I like after Bring to Light resolves?
EDIT: The wording on bring to light is weird. Does exiling it mean that I can play it whenever I like after Bring to Light resolves?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
WIZARDS LEARNED NOTHING
Awesome white removal in the house:
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'm not even sure how you can kill Lumbering Falls if land destruction isn't in the set.
The Technomancer
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Whelp.
The format overall looks slower though, its probably not an issue
Fuck. Do you think we're getting a Harrow reprint?
you know what this means
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean, you could use Foul-Tongue Invocation or Crackling Doom, but your opponent having 0 other creatures is still a tall order.
Its hard enough to kill I could see it being Modern playable no problem.
Block it.
Well that yeah :lol:
Boogalogist
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Wow...opposing color man lands is finally here!! Been waiting a while for these.
And....that Bring to Light...holy shit...so damn amazing in EDH.
And....that Bring to Light...holy shit...so damn amazing in EDH.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You can also use Bring to Light to cast Living End.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I agree. Prowess-land could be interesting if costed aggressively, like RU for a 2/1, so it probably won't be
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