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[TheSeks]

Any word on an update or release of DLC?

I really wish there would be a deck editor or making it more like M:tG Online on the consoles. I would pay for an "advanced" mode where I could tweak decks, as it stands the XBLA game is a nice little diversion but it's unbalanced in some decks and the extra cards aren't really that helpful in terms of getting things out (some decks have a huge "need a spell/creature NOW" problem).

 

[AstroLad]

Blue Geezer is quite good with Blue. I've noticed it's become increasingly popular online too. I won't defend it because it's about my sixth choice, but I don't think it's totally far to compare it only to Elves. If someone is playing Elves, just squash that shit with Black or go Elf v. Elf (yawn).

As far as this becoming MTGO XBLA, just count on it never happening and maybe you'll be pleasantly surprised one day. (you won't)

 

[Kenaras]

this is how it should be done. but i havent tested in game if the game will actually tap the lands in that order.

This works. I'm glad you posted it, too; I'd "solved" the puzzle two different ways, but neither of those ways should have worked. Good to see that there is a correct solution.

Spoiler

You have to cast the incinerates first; otherwise, the game will tap too many of your mountains while paying colorless mana costs. Other than that, you can use the other spells/abilities in any order.

 

[Blue Geezer]

Please explain how to "use it right" then. My problem with Blue is the same as the Dragon deck. It takes too long to get going. Against GB, there are too many things to counterspell, and if you don't have a Remove Soul for Gaea's Herald on turn 2, you're basically done.

There's too many spells that are bad news if they hit the ground: Elvish Champions, Huntmaster, Immaculate Magistrate, Jagged Scar Archers, Imperious Perfect, Coat of Arms, Nath of the Gilt, Overrun, etc. When Elvish Warriors are 3/4, your walls are useless, and blue fliers can't compete with GB damage because you're outnumbered and underpowered (compared to an Elven army).

I'm not saying Blue is useless and can't win. I just think you need to get lucky. Sometimes you get a hand where your Sprites and Phantom Warrior can chip away early. Other times, you might get the one control magic, or a counterspell heavy hand with a big creature you can protect. A double wall draw is also strong, especially if they both get benefit from Coat of Arms. But more often than not, if you play a lot, you're not going to see many hands like that.

I think if you're playing a smart opponent, you're going to have to tap out at some point. Whether it's for a Phantom Warrior, an artifact wall, an air elemental, a magpie, or a brain geyser, you need to tap out. That's when a smart opponent drops an Elvish Champion/Coat of Arms/something that overpowers you, and it's all downhill from there.

I will admit black/green is the toughest match up for blue for the reasons you stated but i put the blue deck as second best because it deals with all the others quite well with the right timing. controlling the board is difficult when almost everything that the elves drop you cant keep up with but its not impossible! try to look 3/4 turns ahead, tell yourself what you are willing to deal with, how much life you are willing to give up (this can be knife edge thin, i often let 15 of my life to be forfeit) and try to keep yourself in the game. as always try to use their turns as your turn to play as you can get a lot of damage done then (unsummoning a coat of arms as they are attacking is glorious )

yeah its quite tough but had they given blue a good two drop then i think blue would really be OP in the right hands.

 

[Cheech]

so has anyone tried playing Magic Online?

I'm interested in getting back into magic especially with the new set coming out.

It's not bad. Personally I'm having a hard time with it because I have no idea how to build a deck; the first time I ever played Magic was with the XBLA game. The in-game shops and auctions are neat, though.

 

[AstroLad]

mtgo is UGLY as hell too. i know leet magic players don't give a crap, and frankly i usually don't either, but good god.

 

[TheSeks]

As far as this becoming MTGO XBLA, just count on it never happening and maybe you'll be pleasantly surprised one day. (you won't)

Oh, I don't expect it to EVER happen. But again, I just wish it was. Magic without a deck-editor is kinda... gimped. :lol

 

[danmaku]

It's not bad. Personally I'm having a hard time with it because I have no idea how to build a deck; the first time I ever played Magic was with the XBLA game. The in-game shops and auctions are neat, though.

Yep, the biggest problem is that you have to start from scratch and build your own deck without any idea of the available cards, formats and metagames. My advice is to look on the Wizards forum (or elsewhere) for a deck that you like, buy the single cards and play with it until you feel confident enough to build your own.

 

[Insaniac]

well paper magic is still the way to go. Just built me an Elder Dragons Highlander deck
ahhh cardboard crack.

 

[lazytonberry]

That isn't that big of a deal since the deck has two ways to search for the energy you want. I do find you get gimped when you don't get a green energy quickly since you can't play the 2/2 elf that lets you search or the energy searching card.

Please, don't ever call it "energy" again. This isn't Pokemon*. As nerdy as this nitpick may be, call it by its right name! Mana, land, forest, mountain, whatever. Just not... energy.


Count me in for eagerly awaiting DLC decks. Hell, at this point I'd buy the DLC tables if they re-released them just to have SOMETHING more for the game. I've already bought the mana symbols picture pack.




*yes, the only reason I know this is because I had some Pokemon cards when I was a kid.

 

[AstroLad]

Oh, I don't expect it to EVER happen. But again, I just wish it was. Magic without a deck-editor is kinda... gimped. :lol

Yeah, I think a lot of people were taken aback first. But really you just have to consider it completely on its own merits and just by the looks of this thread and speaking to some of my friends it's done a pretty great job of accomplishing its goal of getting people into Magic.

 

[Saerk]

Please, don't ever call it "energy" again. This isn't Pokemon*. As nerdy as this nitpick may be, call it by its right name! Mana, land, forest, mountain, whatever. Just not... energy.


Count me in for eagerly awaiting DLC decks. Hell, at this point I'd buy the DLC tables if they re-released them just to have SOMETHING more for the game. I've already bought the mana symbols picture pack.




*yes, the only reason I know this is because I had some Pokemon cards when I was a kid.

ha Ha ha...wow

 

[Zyzyxxz]

well it was a nice distraction but unless they make major game changes I'm not gonna get any DLC, I'll probably just get back into MTG Online if I decide to get serious again.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Well the current GAF tourney's almost done. Should we start planning for another one to start right after?

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

mtgo is UGLY as hell too. i know leet magic players don't give a crap, and frankly i usually don't either, but good god.

They need to just let MTGO and the XBLA go all out. MTGO will never reach the same audience size as the XBLA game. They need to expand the XBLA and allow custom deck building. There is wayyyyyyyyyy more money to be made on consoles with Magic.

 

[AstroLad]

Well the current GAF tourney's almost done. Should we start planning for another one to start right after?

i'd do it. thinking maybe limit people to only being able to use each type of deck twice (in a seven-game series).

 

[lazytonberry]

ha Ha ha...wow

:lol hehehe, you know it!

I wonder how much of a boost Wizards got to the purchasing of actual cards, or an influx of people playing MtGO, or both, because of this game. I know it's succeeded in renewing interest in the game for a lot of lapsed players, just from hearing secondhand about cardshop owners talking about the sudden increase in people purchasing cards because they got the XBLA game, but it'd be interesting to know just how much.

I actually like what they did with Duels of the Planeswalkers, what with the challenges, preconstructed decks, limited customization, and the whole process of unlocking new cards. The only thing they need to do is add much more of it - more decks, or more cards for existing decks, and more challenges. If they can really keep the support ongoing for this, I think it'll just get better and better as time goes on.

 

[Eggo]

I will admit black/green is the toughest match up for blue for the reasons you stated but i put the blue deck as second best because it deals with all the others quite well with the right timing. controlling the board is difficult when almost everything that the elves drop you cant keep up with but its not impossible! try to look 3/4 turns ahead, tell yourself what you are willing to deal with, how much life you are willing to give up (this can be knife edge thin, i often let 15 of my life to be forfeit) and try to keep yourself in the game. as always try to use their turns as your turn to play as you can get a lot of damage done then (unsummoning a coat of arms as they are attacking is glorious )

yeah its quite tough but had they given blue a good two drop then i think blue would really be OP in the right hands.

I played the Blue deck against my friend's Black/Green yesterday for four hours straight. I won about 1 in every 3 matches. It's not really a matter of looking ahead. I know how to play. We've both been tournament magic players since Unlimited. I think it's a matter of getting lucky.

When I won with blue, it came down to usually one of the following two scenarios:

1) I get a creature heavy draw and 'rush' him with Sprite, Air Elemental, Mahamoti in successive fashion. That's too much firepower for BG to handle.

2) I get 1 or 2 Magpies on the board, protect them, and win via card advantage because I'm outdrawing my opponent on cards/land.

When I lose, it's because he drops three elves in a row, and I'm dead before I can cast my second creature. In those four hours of play, Coat of Arms only hit the table once (and I boomeranged it when he attacked). BG kills far faster than it takes to drop a Coat of Arms. I'm actually more scared of Nath of the Gilt. That guy ruins blue.

 

[Zyzyxxz]

Well the current GAF tourney's almost done. Should we start planning for another one to start right after?

I'm definitely interested.

 

[Blue Geezer]

I played the Blue deck against my friend's Black/Green yesterday for four hours straight. I won about 1 in every 3 matches. It's not really a matter of looking ahead. I know how to play. We've both been tournament magic players since Unlimited. I think it's a matter of getting lucky.

When I won with blue, it came down to usually one of the following two scenarios:

1) I get a creature heavy draw and 'rush' him with Sprite, Air Elemental, Mahamoti in successive fashion. That's too much firepower for BG to handle.

2) I get 1 or 2 Magpies on the board, protect them, and win via card advantage because I'm outdrawing my opponent on cards/land.

When I lose, it's because he drops three elves in a row, and I'm dead before I can cast my second creature. In those four hours of play, Coat of Arms only hit the table once (and I boomeranged it when he attacked). BG kills far faster than it takes to drop a Coat of Arms. I'm actually more scared of Nath of the Gilt. That guy ruins blue.

well if i was guaranteed to be playing against B/G ill admit i would probably be looking elsewhere other then Blue to play but thats the only deck Blue really has problems with tbf.

and yes nath is EVIL

 

[kuYuri]

RGW and Red are the worst to me. Red has one freaking Goblin King and 12 goblins total. Compare this to Elves which has 3 Elvish Champions (not to mention all the other Elf buffs) and 20+ elves. Yeah thanks. It's like someone started making a Goblin deck and then just said "eh, fuck it" and went back to tweaking the Elf and artifact decks some more. Red is the only winless (0-4) deck in the GAF tournament for good reason.

I've won some games online with the red deck, it really just depends on the draws and what deck you're facing, especially if you get a burn heavy draw. The biggest problem with the deck is that it has too many expensive cards, more than like 60% of the deck has casting costs of 3 or more, which really slows the deck down.

 

[desverger]

Played a few games of local co-op yesterday. Was even more fun than I expected it to be!

It's a bit dumb that the unlocked decks are account based, so if I invite a friend over and we want to play co-op, he only has 2 decks to choose from. And of course you can't unlock any decks with the co-op campaign. Eh. I guess we'll just have to open the basic decks for him while I use advanced decks, or something.

Still, regardless of that minor setback, we had some epic games yesterday. One of them lasted for over 30 minutes and we ended up having 108 life. Glad we won that one :lol

 

[Nachkebia]

I am so bad at this game

 

[Almak]

I absolutely hated the blue deck until I got to use it myself. I actually went on gameFAQs to see if they have a good strategy for beating blue, instead I stumbled on to a how to guide for using it and literally the first sentence of it was: Do you like being a dick? If yes, you are going to love using this deck. :lol

 

[wideawakewesley]

Well the current GAF tourney's almost done. Should we start planning for another one to start right after?

I'd be up for that (I'm based in the UK though).

 

[Cheech]

Some fresh DLC/patch news. Vague, but official.

"We've posted quite a bit in this forum and in the one over at MSFT, though not as much in the past week or two.

We're working on finishing up a patch to fix as many of the current bugs/issues as is practical for the immediate future, and there will be news on a "bigger" bit of DLC coming some time soonish, but I can't say exactly what yet.

We are very appreciative of all of our great fans who've bought and played the game so far, the success took even us a little by surprise.

Rest assured we are as committed (if not more so) to the idea of Magic on the XboX right now as we were pre-release."

 

[AstroLad]

Good news; I hope it's coming out within the near future. Kind of surprised they didn't have a couple of decks ready close to launch (although they did certainly have tables and avatars LOL). I hope they don't fix the "glitch" of my avatar being all black though. That shit is intimidating.

 

[Gowans]

just popped up on my twitter.

Gamerbytes has stated this has sold 170,000 in two weeks
http://bit.ly/viDDJ

 

[antiquegamer]

Is it unreasonable to file complain against people that rage quit? It is quite annoying and I am not sure why these people even feel the need to quit over some ranking e-leaderboard that really have no standing in any sanction tournament.

 

[Almak]

Today a friend and I have met two ragequitters who pause (X button) the game before leaving. That pretty much forces you to quit to menu.

So sad. They should fix this glitch.

I just don't understand people like that. What's the point of playing online than if you can not take responsibility for your actions? Also caring about rankings buffered in this way is stupid beyond belief. I mean what's the point? Just because ones ranking is higher doesn't instantaneously make him a better player. :/
Hope they fix this with a next patch.

 

[AstroLad]

Just a pure ragequit is not that big of a deal imo--it does affect rankings so it's as good as a win (though apparently it doesn't help towards achievements, though I figure most people have those by now)--I mean MTGO just lets you resign and frankly so should this game. I actually kind of like it since at this point with 100% everything I don't have much to play for other than ranking I suppose, and quits certainly make things go faster, especially when the game is effectively over.

Glitched quits (which I've heard about but not experienced) are a different story.

 

[Echoes]

Just bought the game. Expected awesomeness and got it.

I have a noobish Q; what does Troll Ascetic's ability does? It says "Regenreate Troll Ascetic". Does that mean if an enemy hit it, then another enemy tried hitting it I could do it and regenerate my life back?

Q#2: Any recommended downloads? Or should I play normally at first?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Grecco]

Just bought the game. Expected awesomeness and got it.

I have a noobish Q; what does Troll Ascetic's ability does? It says "Regenreate Troll Ascetic". Does that mean if an enemy hit it, then another enemy tried hitting it I could do it and regenerate my life back?

Q#2: Any recommended downloads? Or should I play normally at first?

Thanks in advance.

Regenerate means if its killed in combat it can survive. Stays tapped.



Anyways do we know about DLC yet? I want more decks

 

[AstroLad]

Just bought the game. Expected awesomeness and got it.

I have a noobish Q; what does Troll Ascetic's ability does? It says "Regenreate Troll Ascetic". Does that mean if an enemy hit it, then another enemy tried hitting it I could do it and regenerate my life back?

Q#2: Any recommended downloads? Or should I play normally at first?

Thanks in advance.

Just be sure to activate the regen before taking damage, and make sure you have the two mana available to do so before tossing him into the fray.

 

[antiquegamer]

A nice interview on xbox joy-stiq site, and some insight into why the game was design this way. They pretty much admit that this was indeed gateway drug to Magic:TCG for new players and a sample to hook the old players back in.

There's a picture of "Deck Manager" screen on there, so it seems to be a feature that was "removed" to make it more noob friendly.

More information on the upcoming plan for DLC and a hint on may be loosening of the knot a bit on allowing more customization for the deck and with the sideboards.

Hmm..is that a ban site on NeoGaf? or just a ban word? I don't want to risk my newly mint junior status.

 

[antiquegamer]

Just a pure ragequit is not that big of a deal imo--it does affect rankings so it's as good as a win (though apparently it doesn't help towards achievements, though I figure most people have those by now)--I mean MTGO just lets you resign and frankly so should this game. I actually kind of like it since at this point with 100% everything I don't have much to play for other than ranking I suppose, and quits certainly make things go faster, especially when the game is effectively over.

Glitched quits (which I've heard about but not experienced) are a different story.

Well, I don't care much for the ranking win, but I am still trying to unlock some of the less play deck on my save file (like the red) and it's more fun to play against real player than computer AI.

If I know I am loosing and no hope of a come back, I usually stop blocking and attacking as a way to let the other guys know I am pretty much concede the game so we can both move on.

 

[TwiztidElf]

Got my foil special Garruk Wildspeaker today in the mail. *Brisbane, Australia here btw.
Nice work Hasbro/Wizards.

 

[NameGenerated]

Is Garruk the card everyone gets or is it different for some people?


Also 3 decks left to unlock stuff: red, white, and blue. I have 0 for red and white and only 3 for blue.

Edit: Nevermind, I see it's all Garruk. Going straight into my green deck.

 

[Cheech]

Got my foil special Garruk Wildspeaker today in the mail. *Brisbane, Australia here btw.
Nice work Hasbro/Wizards.

Yeah, I follow the official Magic forum, and people have been getting them in the US as well.

Haven't gotten mine yet, but I didn't buy the game the day it dropped (a few days after), so I'm not sure it makes a difference.

 

[Flynn]

My friend sent me some pics of a pretty wild game he played. Garruk Wildspeaker buffed up one of his Grizzly Bears to 2543 P/T.
The full story and pics here.

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

just popped up on my twitter.

Gamerbytes has stated this has sold 170,000 in two weeks
http://bit.ly/viDDJ

If Battlefield hadn't released, this would be the big story in the world of XBLA.

 

[desverger]

Anyone else had the co-op campaign crash after loading very consistently? What the heck :/

We're around match 10-11 and over half of the time after loading my whole xbox freezes and I have to turn the power off and reboot. Doesn't seem to be related to deck or opponent or anything.

 

[AstroLad]

My friend sent me some pics of a pretty wild game he played. Garruk Wildspeaker buffed up one of his Grizzly Bears to 2543 P/T.
The full story and pics here.

haha, an elves-like performance.

i know they get slagged off a lot, but i have to give the online comp some credit. even though black and elves are clearly the elite decks, you really see a good variety online even in ranked. i'm more than happy to see elves too because i'm running 85%+ beating it with black. black otoh is usually a 50/50 proposition at best (i refuse to play same color and i shy away from elves, so i'm usually praying for a troll ascetic or voice of all or something)

 

[NameGenerated]

Got my Garruk in the mail today.

 

[lazytonberry]

I got my Garruk last Friday (7/31) as well. Did anyone else go pick up their 2 free sample decks with the coupon that came with it?

Only one store in my area was listed on the website, and I decided to go pick it up that day instead of chancing that they might run out. Apparently I was the second person that day.

Not really anything good in the decks, just a bunch of commons and maybe an uncommon or two, and only 30 cards, but hey, free is free. And I got some cards that I didn't already have.

They have one deck for each color, so I chose white and red. I noticed Lorwyn and Tenth edition cards, don't remember what else.

 

[TheSeks]

I still haven't gotten my Garruk. Man, WotC is failing right now. I want my sample decks (if they're in Magic: 10th Edition) to futz around with.

Speak of the Devil: Just got it in the mail. Yay, sample decks get! :lol

 

[GuessWho]

who or what is Garruk and how did you get him?

 

[TheSeks]

who or what is Garruk and how did you get him?

http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/magic_single_card.asp?cn=Garruk Wildspeaker

(That's the Magic: 10th Edition one)

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Digital/duelsoftheplaneswalkers.aspx?x=mtg/digital/dotp/whatis

Promo, which may or may not be over now.

 

[AstroLad]

they need to hurry up with the dlc already :/ hopefully something that is an effective counter to Black. blind select option would be nice too.

it'd be funny to see the various win percentages online

 

[Sonos]

they need to hurry up with the dlc already :/ hopefully something that is an effective counter to Black. blind select option would be nice too.

it'd be funny to see the various win percentages online

my friend is an avid black player who was ranked as high as 63rd. he says he is now having trouble with green, red, red/black/green and elf decks now. I dont see black as the immovable force.

my rank isnt very high but I usually go with blue because I like how cerebral it is. i win maybe 30-50% of the time. 60% if you count all of the rage quits. which is awesome.