Familienoberhauptvogel
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Funnily the author of that is sitting right next to me right now.
Anyway 3-2 in 2HG now, technically 2-3 but our opponents dropped and gave us their win.
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Funnily the author of that is sitting right next to me right now.
Anyway 3-2 in 2HG now, technically 2-3 but our opponents dropped and gave us their win.
Horatorobor
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Should Splinter drop more in price or should I just get 1 now for my cube?
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
It'll drop like a rock thrown at the ground by the Hulk.
I'm going to keep my Twins, just in case that in three years they will realise that always banning the most popular deck was a mistake and that they unban some cards.
I also know what I'm struggling the most with right now. I'm already over the banning of Twin, but I just don't know what to play next. Some staples for other decks have shot up massively in price but with a somewhat thight budget it just feels too risky to commit buying staples if they could be banned next year too. I think I'll just wait this one out for a few months and then decide what to do.
Wait till it's fully crashed, it will go down to semi-bulk rare after a few weeks.
I also know what I'm struggling the most with right now. I'm already over the banning of Twin, but I just don't know what to play next. Some staples for other decks have shot up massively in price but with a somewhat thight budget it just feels too risky to commit buying staples if they could be banned next year too. I think I'll just wait this one out for a few months and then decide what to do.
Wait till it's fully crashed, it will go down to semi-bulk rare after a few weeks.
WarlockTheWise
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three noob questions:
1. can i sacrafice a creature before it gets killed from blocking?
2. what does sorcery can only be played on an empty stack mean, like why would that matter.
3. can i flash a creature in after the oponent has declared attackers and have my flash creature as a blocker?
1. can i sacrafice a creature before it gets killed from blocking?
2. what does sorcery can only be played on an empty stack mean, like why would that matter.
3. can i flash a creature in after the oponent has declared attackers and have my flash creature as a blocker?
LaserBuddha
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It feels like the people salty about Tein didn't even read the ban notes. I don't play Modern but I can easily read that and understand that it's a lot more than Wizards saying "This deck has the best win rate right now so kill it."
FWIW for someone who has been looking at getting into Modern, looking at tournament results and seeing every other deck was called " ___ Twin" was a big turn off.
FWIW for someone who has been looking at getting into Modern, looking at tournament results and seeing every other deck was called " ___ Twin" was a big turn off.
1. Yes, but your last opportunity to do so is before it deals its combat damage.
2. It means they're far more limited than instants. You can't cast them in response to anything, so they can't be used as tricks in combat or the like. For example, say your opponent throws a burn spell at your guy to kill him, and you have a buff spell in hand -- if it's an instant, you can cast it and save your guy, but if it's a sorcery, your guy is dead before you get the chance.
3. Yes.
"God's Beard!"
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It's like the baby version of /r/wallstreetbets.
WarlockTheWise
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So if i get attacked by a 2/2 lifelink for example, and i have an eldrazi scion. I should declare the scion as a blocker and then immediately sacrafice it to gain 1 mana and prevent the attacking creature from dealing any damage.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Correct. It also keeps your opponent from gaining life.
WarlockTheWise
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So in general, always sacrafice a creature that would die from blocking if you are able to unless the attacking creature has trample.
The Technomancer
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Or if you can trade with the opponent. If your Scion blocks a 3/1 and you sacrifice it, the attacking creature takes no damage and they still have a 3/1
Familienoberhauptvogel
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4-2 now and 2 games to go
A Link to the Past
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So is there a good site for like, Magic horror stories? ie, cheating, shitty behaviour, etc. I live for these kinds of things :v
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The only cards of note it actually adds are Choke and Ensnaring Bridge, both of which are problematic old-school hate cards. I hate Bridge, but Choke in particular punishes you for playing a non-greedy land base.
Although I learned today that Bribery is a legal card in Modern through Eighth Edition and that gave me pause because I have dreams of stealing Tron Guy's Emrakul or Ulamog.
blindrocket
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I bought a play set of Ensnaring Bridge for a mono-black rack deck that is just brutal. It's obvious not Tier 1 but my friend still hates to play against it so I've only played it once.
This was quite awhile back long before Bridge jumped up in price.
I should really think about selling / trading off a lot of cards, maybe keeping one for Commander use or if I ever want to make a Cube.
This was quite awhile back long before Bridge jumped up in price.
I should really think about selling / trading off a lot of cards, maybe keeping one for Commander use or if I ever want to make a Cube.
phazedplasma
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UR prowess std deck or URx?
whats the best x? I'm between white or black.
whats the best x? I'm between white or black.
Don't you want Green for Become Immense? Temur might be finally playable in standard!
"God's Beard!"
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Black or nothing, the mana sucks otherwise.
Etrian Oddity
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[QUOTE="God's Beard!";192479105]Black or nothing, the mana sucks otherwise.[/QUOTE]
R/G/U has terrific mana and ramp....
R/G/U has terrific mana and ramp....
"God's Beard!"
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Man, thought I was gonna lose to Modern Eldrazi when the dude drops Chalice on 1 on me. Turns out the deck just can't beat Bridge if you mill their Ulamogs.
We're discussing prowess aggro though.
We're discussing prowess aggro though.
phazedplasma
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[QUOTE="God's Beard!";192479105]Black or nothing, the mana sucks otherwise.[/QUOTE]
so black for:
-murderous cut
-tasigur? (sb)
-duress
-infinite oblit
-kolaghans cmd
what am i missing?
so black for:
-murderous cut
-tasigur? (sb)
-duress
-infinite oblit
-kolaghans cmd
what am i missing?
"God's Beard!"
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painful truths is the main one
Went to a new store for the prerelease, website said 3 packs prize support per person.... Then the event ends and the owner hands three packs to the guy who got first and 1 pack to everyone else ಠ_ಠ.
At least I pulled a thought-knot and two reality smashers. Guy in first was pissed.
At least I pulled a thought-knot and two reality smashers. Guy in first was pissed.
Horatorobor
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Opened a Chandra ok my second prerelease so it wasn't that bad.
tiltnkirby
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Had a few of those years ago during the RtR block. Event started an hour late because the owner wanted to take all the late reg. Half way into the prerelease people began talking about the prize structure fliers, around the whole store, being wrong. Turns out the owner advertised 12 for first place but toned it down to around 6 for first. Head judge wasn't very happy after that news broke out.
"God's Beard!"
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I tried a Mardu deck based on Kirblar's combo, but Dark Confidant is not great with Boom//Bust lol
divisionbyzorro
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I thought Neal Oliver's take on the Modern bannings was quite well thought-out.
He points out the same thing I keep saying: Twin was being the policeman of the format and now it's gone. That being said, he's much more upbeat/positive about the future than I am (I'm actually quite pessimistic about Modern right now, both in terms of the format's health and whether or not it makes sense to invest in it at all anymore).
He points out the same thing I keep saying: Twin was being the policeman of the format and now it's gone. That being said, he's much more upbeat/positive about the future than I am (I'm actually quite pessimistic about Modern right now, both in terms of the format's health and whether or not it makes sense to invest in it at all anymore).
GoutPatrol
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3 rounds, only 7 people showed up.
The top 2 talked to the TO after being handed 3 and 2 packs respectively, and his response was "Is this a sanctioned event? No? Okay, that's why!"
I'm guessing he couldn't sanction it because we only got 7 people, and maybe that screws with getting future prize support from Wizards, but at the very least he should've been up front about the fact that prize support was more than cut in half. I mean, there are places around here that charge $30 for prereleases with 1 pack per person in prize support, it wouldn't be a dealbreaker or anything.
Jeez. Did he just decide to change it mid-tournament? That's ridiculous. This event also started around an hour late because the owner took three late registrations.
I'm registering at the good LGS around here from now on, even if it means I'll have to do it a month in advance.
You failed to quote the part where he actually outlined why Splinter Twin was too good for the format.
Just because Twin is banned doesn't mean URx tempo decks just dead in the water now. All the cards that 'police' the format like Remand, Spell Snare, Spell Pierce, etc are still around.
Wulfric
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Oh, that explains it. That doesn't excuse the poor prize structure though. And I thought all prereleases were sanctioned events? If you have a group of people spending a big chunk of the day playing, I'd like to know it actually wasn't ahead of time.
Giant Panda
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Tajuru Pathwarden, Vile Redeemer, Nissa's Judgement, and Sphinx of the Final Word were my MVPs in my U/G deck that went 4-1. I was sad that I didn't open any value though.
Horatorobor
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Do etb triggers that generate mana use the stack?
I switched to a store that charges $30 instead of $25, but has good support (18 packs for 4-0, 12 for 3-0-1, 6 for 3-1), has a pity pack if you play all 4 rounds, and you get a free draft the following weekend (with pack per win support) for each prerelease you enter.
Store I had been going to was 1 pack per player prized down pretty deep, to the point where 1st place still got like 10 packs, but 2nd (usually with same record as 1st) would only get 3 packs. They only charged $25 and usually had free food for the noon events though
Store I had been going to was 1 pack per player prized down pretty deep, to the point where 1st place still got like 10 packs, but 2nd (usually with same record as 1st) would only get 3 packs. They only charged $25 and usually had free food for the noon events though
Modern is fucked. Always. Fuck off, Modern.
Yeah. ETBs ones always do.
The only triggered abilities that don't are abilities that trigger off another mana ability being activated. So Mana Flare and other stuff like that doesn't use the stack.
They don't have the same inevitability required to actually win games. The card advantage available in U/R isn't powerful enough compared to Karn or creatures with good ETB abilities.
They should have unbannned Ancestral Visions straight away. I'm not even convinced it will be enough but it would be much more exciting than just removing two decks straight up then waiting around.
I mean, I have a Twin deck with full sideboard and mainboard options. And it got banned
Last year, I had about 2/3s of Pod built including sideboard options. And that got banned too.
I'm not salty about it because I don't play Modern anymore and the money loss is not that big of a deal. Plus the cards all went into my EDH decks anyway.
But Wizards can go ahead and ban the "best" deck every year (which does not even hit 20% represenation in T8s) and see where that brings their stupid eternal format.
Last year, I had about 2/3s of Pod built including sideboard options. And that got banned too.
I'm not salty about it because I don't play Modern anymore and the money loss is not that big of a deal. Plus the cards all went into my EDH decks anyway.
But Wizards can go ahead and ban the "best" deck every year (which does not even hit 20% represenation in T8s) and see where that brings their stupid eternal format.
divisionbyzorro
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See, I don't buy that. Tempo/Faerie style decks have been in the fomat for a while, and they generally have a positive-to-very-positive matchup against Twin. So if those decks could beat Twin and could succeed against the rest of the field, you would have seen them in greater numbers. But that's not the case. Cards like Remand actually aren't very good (gasp) unless you're stalling to a powerful end game. The blue control cards weren't what was policing the format - it was the fact that the blue deck could also race.
I get why that bothers people - when you describe the deck, it sounds unbeatable and oppressive. But the data just doesn't support that theory. The data shows that it's a pillar of the format, but it doesn't overconvert and its metagame share hasn't become over represented. It's not oppressive, and the format was nigh on the healthiest it's ever been.
The one argument that I've heard that does ring true for me is that a lot of the cards currently banned that might otherwise be of an appropriate power level for Modern (Ancestral Vision, Stoneforge Mystic, maybe even JTMS) would all just slot into Twin and make that deck even better. That is - if Twin is the card that is keeping other cards banned, maybe you should just ban Twin and unban the other stuff. I can definitely get behind that argument, although its not quite enough to convince me that this was the right thing to do.
tiltnkirby
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From the website and the fliers, it was the only conclusion we could make. This wasn't the first time this happened there and the main reason I don't go there anymore, not like that place is around anymore anyway. Besides, I like Channel fireball anyway, even if it's a bit lacking in space and parking most of the time.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
9-1 over the last two prereleases. Today's deck was a 3 1/2 color pile that just got there somehow.
Best rare was Thought Knot followed by Eldrazi Edric.
Best rare was Thought Knot followed by Eldrazi Edric.
Last year they unbanned Golgari Grave-Troll
Vendilion Clique poking for 3 a turn is legit. So is Keranos. So is the Grixis Delve deck. I would be surprised if a T1 UR deck doesn't exist.
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