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The Technomancer
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I'm still waiting for them to do another cool enemy color pair. Like UR Chandra or something.Rokam said:
DAT GB GARRUK HNNNNNNNNG
Speculation: GB Garruk = enemy duals = Glissa jumps from $2 mythic to $10 ROCK DECK STAPLE. Snatch up your playset(s) now, while they're dirt cheap.
There's no way in hell he'll be RG. This version of Garruk has been cursed by Liliana; there's another art featuring him without his mask with the zombie look, purple veins and all. GB total. He's going to look wicked sick in a gold border.
In other news, I picked up some WoW tcg decks and cards. Fun little distraction from Magic.
Speculation: GB Garruk = enemy duals = Glissa jumps from $2 mythic to $10 ROCK DECK STAPLE. Snatch up your playset(s) now, while they're dirt cheap.
There's no way in hell he'll be RG. This version of Garruk has been cursed by Liliana; there's another art featuring him without his mask with the zombie look, purple veins and all. GB total. He's going to look wicked sick in a gold border.
In other news, I picked up some WoW tcg decks and cards. Fun little distraction from Magic.
Has anyone else seen the Vampire event deck? It's kinda awesome. And the illusions one doesnt seem bad either.
Vampire Onslaught
23 Swamp
1 Verdant Catacombs
24 lands
2 Bloodghast
4 Bloodthrone Vampire
4 Gatekeeper of Malakir
1 Kalastria Highborn
4 Pawn of Ulamog
1 Vampire Hexmage
4 Vampire Lacerator
2 Vampire Nighthawk
3 Vampire Outcasts
4 Viscera Seer
29 creatures
2 Blade of the Bloodchief
4 Dismember
1 Mimic Vat
7 other spells
Sideboard
4 Distress
2 Go for the Throat
4 Skinrender
3 Vampire Hexmage
2 Vampire Nighthawk
15 sideboard cards
Vampire Onslaught
23 Swamp
1 Verdant Catacombs
24 lands
2 Bloodghast
4 Bloodthrone Vampire
4 Gatekeeper of Malakir
1 Kalastria Highborn
4 Pawn of Ulamog
1 Vampire Hexmage
4 Vampire Lacerator
2 Vampire Nighthawk
3 Vampire Outcasts
4 Viscera Seer
29 creatures
2 Blade of the Bloodchief
4 Dismember
1 Mimic Vat
7 other spells
Sideboard
4 Distress
2 Go for the Throat
4 Skinrender
3 Vampire Hexmage
2 Vampire Nighthawk
15 sideboard cards
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Thanks for all of info on the who starts 1st thing!!
That's an amazing decklist. A shame so much of it rotates out in like a month, but still, staple uncommons, a fetch, and two bloodghasts... these decks just seem to get better and better.An-Det said:
Looking at the illusions deck, it appears Wizards is continuing the trend of putting out imbalanced decks. The value of the vampires deck must be several times the value of Illusions, but then again, after rotation the only card that will keep most of its value is the fetchland and Dismember.
Fragamemnon
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Bloodghast will be a $3 rare for a good long time. Remember, the older the format, the more ways to abuse graveyard interactions.
Gatekeeper will be a $1 uncommon also for a long time. He's one of the best mono-black cards out there, right up there with Hymn to Tourach.
Gatekeeper will be a $1 uncommon also for a long time. He's one of the best mono-black cards out there, right up there with Hymn to Tourach.
I am so hoping for enemy duals. Can't wait to build GB decks. Too bad that I just traded away my extra glissa's might take up your advise and get a playset.Takuan said:
WtfAn-Det said:
That deck is just bizarre good value. Taking the lowest average Dutch prices (which are much higher than US ones) it ranks over 80 euro if you buy the cards seperatly.
Even with the cards rotating out the value is there in just the fetch land and Dismember playset (which are sold over 3 euro's a piece at the moment).
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Damn, some really good deals at GenCon this year. I've got my eye on snagging one of these:
I'm shopping around for the best price.
I'm shopping around for the best price.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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They only thing I can think of that's malicious is the using of phyrexian mana.The_Technomancer said:
Thinking about building some goblin fun for standard. Think I'm going to try the Kuldotha Rebirth/Goblin mix, just looks like it could be fun. Plus Goblins was the first Legacy deck I built, so it will be nice to play a standard one as well.
Start on some EDH. I had a Spelltithe Enforcer (when an opponent plays a spell they pay an extra 1 or sacrifice a permanent) out and Rhystic Study (when an opponent plays a spell they pay an extra 1 or you draw a card) and took over someone's turn and you would be surprised how effective that was. Just played every small spell in his hand and got rid of the stuff that bothered me.ultron87 said:
What is this? One of my best friends is an avid Magic player and huge anime fan, I'm sure he'd love one of these. Is this just a Japanese version of Jace vs. Chandra?The_Technomancer said:Damn, some really good deals at GenCon this year. I've got my eye on snagging one of these:
I'm shopping around for the best price.
US Nationals is this weekend, and there is live coverage of it at ggslive. They've shown a ton of great players so far.
Also, while not directly related to Magic, one of the main people at my LGS attached a camera to the front of his bike yesterday and messed around in the shop. It's kinda funny, so I thought I would share it: https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=199476540109942&oid=144089116681&comments
Also, while not directly related to Magic, one of the main people at my LGS attached a camera to the front of his bike yesterday and messed around in the shop. It's kinda funny, so I thought I would share it: https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=199476540109942&oid=144089116681&comments
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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I finally found someone who wanted my Obliterator and one of my Karn's! Finally!
WTF, Ian Rogerson in the legacy think just went down to 4. I always wondered if pros get mana screwed like some of us do.
WTF, Ian Rogerson in the legacy think just went down to 4. I always wondered if pros get mana screwed like some of us do.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Aww yeah, snagged the Japanese JvC decks. I'm not even going to open them, I just want to have them. I just find it hilarious that Wizards felt the need to commission new anime art to sell in Japan.
LSV vs Brandon Nelson on ggslive right now for the US Nat's quarterfinals, it's a caw-blade mirror. Doesnt look good for LSV game one.
I'm debating the same, money is tight right now. I want to play legacy on Sunday, but I dont have much interest in playing Standard right now. There is some legacy on Saturday as well, so I might do that if I go.
siddx said:
I'm debating the same, money is tight right now. I want to play legacy on Sunday, but I dont have much interest in playing Standard right now. There is some legacy on Saturday as well, so I might do that if I go.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Where do you guys look up what the top tournament decks are for standard?
Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
http://www.starcitygames.com/pages/decklists/
I'm leaning towards going to Boston. I have been working extra hours so I should have some extra money. I'll probably play goblins for standard and affinity for legacy. Nothing like watching some nerd rage out after his 1000 dollar deck gets stomped by a cheap affinity deck.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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siddx said:
Awesome, thanks.
I don't know if anyone would be willing but is there anything someone thinks I should change about my mono black infect? I'm trying to build a deck to make sure I get one of the promos for game day this coming weekend.
4x Plague Stinger
4x Ichorclaw myr
4x Phyrexian Crusader
4x Hand of Praetors
2x Plague Myr
2x Phyrexian Metamorph
2x Sword of Feast and Famine
4x Sign in Blood
2x Black Sun Zenith
2x Morbid Plunder
4x Grim Affliction
2x Go for the Throat
1x Doom Blade
1x Dismember
22x Swamp
Thanks
manipulate
Member
Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in.
Fragamemnon
Member
Affinity isn't any good in Legacy as long as people are playing stuff like Ancient Grudge and other artifact hate to deal with Stoneforge Mystic control decks. The best budget decks for Legacy are Dredge and Burn, with Combo Elves right behind them. Those two decks are also the most loathed decks to play against by "Legacy players" so if you take a match off them you will really be put on tilt.
Ichorid/Dredge is actually an extremely high-skill deck and a good pilot with format knowledge for Cabal Therapies can mow through a field of unprepared opponents (and have pitched games with prepared opponents, sometimes).
Ichorid/Dredge is actually an extremely high-skill deck and a good pilot with format knowledge for Cabal Therapies can mow through a field of unprepared opponents (and have pitched games with prepared opponents, sometimes).
The_Technomancer said:
IIRC, the Japanese Jace vs Chandra was done because of the Magic the Gathering manga that focuses around Chandra.
Fragamemnon said:
Because of the diverse amount of capable decks in Legacy it's usually always going to be a meta call as to what to take. Affinity is a tier 1.5 deck and can have some pretty nuts draws. One or two artifacts isn't going to matter much when you're swinging in for lethal damage on turn three or four.
Dredge is a great deck as long as people aren't packing graveyard hate and even then a good player can play around the hate. But Dredge is a pretty deep deck and requires a lot of knowledge and I definitely wouldn't suggest it to a new player.
Fragamemnon
Member
It actually makes all the difference in the world when it's combined with the standard removal suites that Legacy decks pack. The splash damage alone from the sideboard hate for Batterskull makes Affinity a tough sell right now. It's like playing Dredge in the end of the Mystical Tutor days when Reanimator was doing so well, it's not like your deck is bad but everyone had six pieces of gravehate and it was an uphill slog every single match.
If Mystic ever gets less popular as a card advantage and wincon play for midrange and control decks, then maybe Affinity can get some breathing room. I think it's in a real tough spot right now and, despite its cheap cost, feel that the cash you'd dump into the deck would be better spent on something else.
Honestly,if you are just looking to play in one tournament, ask around and see if you can borrow a deck from someone who isn't going to the event. Legacy players are pretty friendly folk.
Edit: I played Aggro Loam in a tourney today. I'm pretty sure Life from the Loam is right up there with Stifle as my favorite cards in the format.
Fragamemnon said:
If a deck is dedicating 8x or more slots to artifact removal then yes that will make a difference. Again, this is completely a meta call. If combo decks like ANT or Hive Mind are rampant in your area nobody is going to be packing artifact hate and you can easily stomp over most other decks and probably get top 8 consistently. Right now Affinity isn't top tier but to act like it's not a good deck is being dishonest because it can still get nuts draws that are hard to match and its relatively inexpensive after Ravagers and Mox Opals.
Fragamemnon said:
I have zero desire to actually try and "win" with affinity. Sitting there for an entire day playing magic with the same deck is horridly boring. I'd rather go 3-3 and piss off some people when I smash them in three turns like I did last time (when I actually went 6-0 and then lost in top 4). I dont even play ravager affinity, i threw in a stiflenaught combo just for fun, and yet will beat anything outside of a top tier deck (and beat any top tier deck that can't handle uber aggro).
For older cards, and questions in general, it's best to look at the Gatherer text for updated ability text and other errata.OnPoint said:Question about this one:
Do you pay the life after the spell resolves?
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=159836
In this case, the updated ability text states:
Which means that the life is paid when you play the spell, not when it resolves.
Jace TMS, Stoneforge Mystic, Mental Misstep, and more are now banned in Modern, and Pro Tour Philly will also now be Modern.
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ld/155
I immediately made a Facebook post tagging my friend who made a playset of foil foreign Jaces right before they were banned in Standard.
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ld/155
I immediately made a Facebook post tagging my friend who made a playset of foil foreign Jaces right before they were banned in Standard.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Wow. So, now MM is worthless, too. I'm done buy cards. I'm OUT.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Akim said:
Joking.
...I'm not a funny guy. Sorry.
Fragamemnon
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Super happy with the banlist changes in Modern. The last thing a new format needs to have is its PT debut degenerate into mirrors of jerkface combo decks or arduous control mirros. They can start unbanning cards over time as they are proven "safe" like they have been actively doing so in Legacy for years. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised to see Misstep getting the boot out of legacy too. It's showing up in Zoo decks and even Burn now.
The shockland prices are absolutely hilarious right now. Talk about a ridiculous bubble-some of them are going for 50% of what a real dual land in a much more widely supported format are going for. I have some lying around but until this format gets support from local stores I won't be getting any more.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure you can still play control just fine in this format. People just need to think of light-but "hard" countermagic suites, a healthy amount of removal, and oppressive board control cards like Vedalken Shackles. Combo will still be around, it's like those dinosaurs from Jurassic Park, it always finds a way.
The shockland prices are absolutely hilarious right now. Talk about a ridiculous bubble-some of them are going for 50% of what a real dual land in a much more widely supported format are going for. I have some lying around but until this format gets support from local stores I won't be getting any more.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure you can still play control just fine in this format. People just need to think of light-but "hard" countermagic suites, a healthy amount of removal, and oppressive board control cards like Vedalken Shackles. Combo will still be around, it's like those dinosaurs from Jurassic Park, it always finds a way.
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