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Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Holy shit, cavern of souls is preordering for $23 on starcitygames. That's nuts.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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I would think before since the lands aren't entering the battlefield to change later.
I think the Ebay price is higher.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Really? Can't wait until the prices stabilize.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Oh shit, confirmed:
They also basically confirm that Mana Leak won't be coming back in 2013
They also basically confirm that Mana Leak won't be coming back in 2013
Oh shit, confirmed:
They also basically confirm that Mana Leak won't be coming back in 2013
Dies to stone rain.
Karsticles
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I read somewhere that Dark Ritual isn't around anymore. Is this true?
If so, why? :-(
Also, what's with the messed up borders on some of these cards? Like this one:
If so, why? :-(
Also, what's with the messed up borders on some of these cards? Like this one:
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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I read somewhere that Dark Ritual isn't around anymore. Is this true?
If so, why? :-(
Also, what's with the messed up borders on some of these cards? Like this one:
It was just how they designed that set.
Edit: And no mana leak? I wonder what kind of counters will be around.
I read somewhere that Dark Ritual isn't around anymore. Is this true?
If so, why? :-(
Also, what's with the messed up borders on some of these cards? Like this one:
Those are "timeshifted" cards from the set Future Sight. They are cards that Wizards was hinting at as being printed in future sets or previewing future set mechanics/cards etc.
I read somewhere that Dark Ritual isn't around anymore. Is this true?
If so, why? :-(
Also, what's with the messed up borders on some of these cards? Like this one:
The Time Spiral block had a past, present, and future theme for each of its three sets.
Past: Time Spiral had a "timeshifted" sub-rarity that included a few cards in each booster, replacing commons. These were all reprints of older cards, and used the classic card frame.
(Alternate) Present: Planar Chaos had cards with "experimental" abilities for each color, like White having counterspells or Red having Giant Growth. These had a modified version of the current card frame.
Future: Future Sight had cards representing what future sets might bring for each color and Magic in general, using the futuristic card frame like the one in your post. Some of these were actually pre-prints, meaning they would be printed in the "proper" set months or years later.
Well, specifically "future-shifted" cards like that are cards they said might later appear in future sets.
Despite that, I doubt Tarmogoyf will ever get reprinted in a standard set. In a commander pack or something maybe, but yah
Karsticles
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Thanks.
What about Dark Ritual?
What about Dark Ritual?
Cornerstone of too many Turn 1 kills. They try to avoid printing cards that enable a victory on turn 1 2 or 3.
Karsticles
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I'm getting mixed signals. Is the card banned or not? Or just not in the current print series?
Karsticles
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Another old man question:
I know that you can't have two of the same Planeswalker out, but if two cards are referring to the same Planeswalker, what are the rules? I.e. Liliana Vess and Liliana of the Veil.
I know that you can't have two of the same Planeswalker out, but if two cards are referring to the same Planeswalker, what are the rules? I.e. Liliana Vess and Liliana of the Veil.
They can't have the same sub-type (right term?). Youll notice both cards have - Planeswalker Liliana on them, so they cant both be in play at the same time.
Right, it's like the legendary rule. You can have multiples of cards with the subtype Planeswalker - Liliana, but only one such card on the field at any given time. If another Planeswalker - Liliana enters the battlefield on either side, the new one and the one already there both go to the graveyard.
Karsticles
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Thanks gents.
FreedomFrisbee
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See, that's what you'd think, but just remind yourself: no black miracles.
Vangu Vegro
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Besides that, Dark Ritual's effect is in red's slice of the color pie now.
And they admit that Snapcaster is a mistake! Impressive how often R&D has made mistakes lately. Or maybe they have been more honest about what is a mistake.
But Compulsive Research and Remand wouldn't be printed today? I they were both on my UG Snakes deck back in Kamigawa/Ravnica.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
And they admit that Snapcaster is a mistake! Impressive how often R&D has made mistakes lately. Or maybe they have been more honest about what is a mistake.
But Compulsive Research and Remand wouldn't be printed today? I they were both on my UG Snakes deck back in Kamigawa/Ravnica.
Yeah, they also hinted yet again that the Titans won't be coming back. I did find this interesting:
I like how they have a paragraph in there that is essentially just "we understand that Cavern of Souls + Titans = totally fucked".
I'm still surprised they didn't have this land at least hit you for a life or something when you use it for colored mana. Or at least have some sort of downside.
I'm still surprised they didn't have this land at least hit you for a life or something when you use it for colored mana. Or at least have some sort of downside.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Maybe we'll also get a "counter target 6/6 creature with converted mana cost 6 even if its uncounterable" spell, just in case.
Well the biggest mistake in that was printing Titans in the first place.
They can make an "Exile target spell with converted mana cost 6" for U.
They can make an "Exile target spell with converted mana cost 6" for U.
or phyrexian U
The downside is already there when you can only play a very limited card numbers with the coloured mana it gives. Also remember mutavault? That land was nasty and broken.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Why was Mutavault so bad?
Enordash
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I think he's saying that Mutavault was amazing. (It was.)
GoutPatrol
Forgotten in his cell
Ooooh, this dude will be useful for my wolf deck.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Damn.
Damn.
3 mana for 3 damage, meh. If it was an instant and could produce some blockers it'd be better.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Could've been red's answer to lingering souls. But no. It's not white, so it has to be strictly worse this time around.
Pumps White or Green tribal as well.
Don't see any reason to play this over Gather the Townsfolk.
divisionbyzorro
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Damn.
I assume you mean "damn that's a horrible card."
Damn.
Seems like they were trying to make a new version of this
which had a couple of week run as the best deck in standard until they fixed the card. Sadly, there really isn't any way to pump these tokens cheaply (Honor of the Pure doesn't work), so this card is crap.
The Cavern of Souls article has annoyed me. It sounds like they wanted a card to make tribal mana bases better in standard (a good idea) and one to make Snapcaster + Mana Leak worse. I personally think Snapcaster is a very powerful card that is also fun to play because it is very versatile and gives a lot of options. Some people don't like counters, but I'd rather have them than a race to get a Titan out with no interaction. Discard isn't a very consistent mechanic so I hope the hint at a Titan hate card isn't Appetite for Brains.
So they wanted to do two quite desirable things and decided to put them together in the same ridiculous land. Great.
So they wanted to do two quite desirable things and decided to put them together in the same ridiculous land. Great.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I'm going to be buying 2 playlets of Cavern of Souls, but I agree with you. Something odd is going on in R&D these days. First the Titans, the quick banned cards and now this article that basically says "Well, we really don't know what we're doing ATM. Bear with us. Until we figure this thing out, we're going to give you a card that totally strengthens the things people dislike the most right now."
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