Like I said, I know it will be worth while, and the reality is the price of the cards will likely go back up, so my excitement would only take a little hit.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT10| Aether Revolt - That shit that make your Soul Burn slow
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Like I said, I know it will be worth while, and the reality is the price of the cards will likely go back up, so my excitement would only take a little hit.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-online/magic-online-modern-cube-2017-03-02
Modern Cube coming to MTGO next week.
Modern Cube coming to MTGO next week.
Simply Sarah
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It's so nice of them to not just release MM17 on MTGO but to do it early.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
I think it already got announced.
He's talking about Ancestral Visions, which was not announced and it's almost assuredly out.
Yeah we got a $50 card on our hands now
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It's a stupid card that should probably be in a supplemental precon. It's a filler card in every deck that plays it.
I wonder if just having the lead developer as the set designer contributed to this set seeming more exciting than MM15.
Serum Visions with new art!
This art is so much better. Excellent.
Yeah, if we get a Tezzeret vs Chandra Duel Deck, throwing 2 Baubles in seems manditory
divisionbyzorro
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I feel like it is simultaneously indicative of Magic's greatest strength and its greatest weakness that a card like Mishra's Bauble can be so important and valuable.
charlequin
Banned
charlequin
Banned
Boy it sure is too bad that Wizards hates Modern and is killing it off right after they printed this set that will let so many new people start playing it 
This is actually my biggest personal hobby-horse hype for the set, it's been making me crazy for years that only some of the new signet art had made it to print -- even with two more checked off by C16 we still weren't finished. Now here they all are together finally!
Yes, it's hard to take this set list as anything but a clear rebuke to the thought process (if one could call it that) behind MM2.
I'm really surprised MTGGoldfish doesn't offer a live tracker of this, and it's hard to see where everything settles for opening week given that the packs and the cards are all jumping around in value right now, but almost assuredly yes. It was stupid high early on with just the first few reveals + blanks, and a lot of stuff has been revealed since that dramatically increases it.
They can't really tank it very effectively that way unless they do something ridiculous like print it in all five Commander decks one year. This card is like an optimal example of cards they never should have allowed to get as pricey as they did, because now they have a crappier set of options to address it.
The ideal thing for something like this is to reprint it in a booster-based supplemental product without a $10 pricepoint -- i.e. something like Conspiracy -- but they don't have one of those coming up any time soon.
This is actually my biggest personal hobby-horse hype for the set, it's been making me crazy for years that only some of the new signet art had made it to print -- even with two more checked off by C16 we still weren't finished. Now here they all are together finally!
Yes, it's hard to take this set list as anything but a clear rebuke to the thought process (if one could call it that) behind MM2.
I'm really surprised MTGGoldfish doesn't offer a live tracker of this, and it's hard to see where everything settles for opening week given that the packs and the cards are all jumping around in value right now, but almost assuredly yes. It was stupid high early on with just the first few reveals + blanks, and a lot of stuff has been revealed since that dramatically increases it.
They can't really tank it very effectively that way unless they do something ridiculous like print it in all five Commander decks one year. This card is like an optimal example of cards they never should have allowed to get as pricey as they did, because now they have a crappier set of options to address it.
The ideal thing for something like this is to reprint it in a booster-based supplemental product without a $10 pricepoint -- i.e. something like Conspiracy -- but they don't have one of those coming up any time soon.
Simply Sarah
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Eh, it wouldn't be very useful because MTGGold still uses list median from TCGPlayer instead of the more accurate going rate so it's often quite inaccurate on cards when prices are in flux.
Simply Sarah
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Yeah. I'm basically waiting to jump on a few Pact of Negations if/when it's confirmed there's no reprint. I need some for decks I currently have/am building and I don't want them to double in price or anything on me if I can avoid it. x_x
Goyf price is still a huge barrier of entry. LotV probably won't change much either.Boy it sure is too bad that Wizards hates Modern and is killing it off right after they printed this set that will let so many new people start playing it
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Just don't play green, easy.
Anyone wanting pact of negations can't be up to no good.
Infinite Stars
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Goyf isn't needed for every deck, not even every Green deck. LotV is the highest price card, but the card isn't as universal in Modern as Goyf.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Boy it sure is too bad that Wizards hates Modern and is killing it off right after they printed this set that will let so many new people start playing it
This is actually my biggest personal hobby-horse hype for the set, it's been making me crazy for years that only some of the new signet art had made it to print -- even with two more checked off by C16 we still weren't finished. Now here they all are together finally!
Yes, it's hard to take this set list as anything but a clear rebuke to the thought process (if one could call it that) behind MM2.
I'm really surprised MTGGoldfish doesn't offer a live tracker of this, and it's hard to see where everything settles for opening week given that the packs and the cards are all jumping around in value right now, but almost assuredly yes. It was stupid high early on with just the first few reveals + blanks, and a lot of stuff has been revealed since that dramatically increases it.
They can't really tank it very effectively that way unless they do something ridiculous like print it in all five Commander decks one year. This card is like an optimal example of cards they never should have allowed to get as pricey as they did, because now they have a crappier set of options to address it.
The ideal thing for something like this is to reprint it in a booster-based supplemental product without a $10 pricepoint -- i.e. something like Conspiracy -- but they don't have one of those coming up any time soon.
The hilarious part is that they increased the pricepoint to $10 on MM2015 when they did such a poor job disguising how much you had to open a bunch of money rares to make it worth it. They've done a much better job here - I doubt the EV on this set is going to be higher than $10 when its said and done, but they hid some of that with reprints that look valuable but aren't actually valuable, e.g. Abrupt Decay or Scavenging Ooze (of course a lot of that is because they got to the point of including sets that have Modern-played cards that were heavily printed).
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'm a little concerned about this draft environment though. Intangible Virtue is a dumb card and Lingering Souls is a card in the format.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
didn't they ban that specific combo in block constructed?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Yep. I played it in Modern for a while and its still very good. It's better if you combine it with Sorin, Solemn Visitor, of course.
charlequin
Banned
Right, I mean, if supply is big enough it'll inevitably sink below that, but in terms of EV calculated out on the day before spoilers started this set will definitely be super high-value.
I'm two boxes in too. on top of the 4x Ancestral Visions and 2x Engineered Explosives.
Help.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
They're still for sale for under MSRP now.
I think I'm almost done tweaking my Powered (proxy) Cube and am ready to have a group draft it. It worry it might be a horrible combo-ey mess that the less experienced players in our cube group will have no idea what to do with. People seem excited to try it at least, but that is probably just the allure of playing a (color copied) Lotus.
Have I made any horrible mistakes or omissions? http://www.cubetutor.com/viewcube/74088
The original list I copied from, which I picked without the best care, had some weird choices which I've since tried to migrate away from, but some of that probably remains. I didn't realize quite how weird it was till I'd already printed it. So it was too late to just switch to the MTGO cube as a base.
Have I made any horrible mistakes or omissions? http://www.cubetutor.com/viewcube/74088
The original list I copied from, which I picked without the best care, had some weird choices which I've since tried to migrate away from, but some of that probably remains. I didn't realize quite how weird it was till I'd already printed it. So it was too late to just switch to the MTGO cube as a base.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Why don't they ever reprint Through the Breach? $40 red splashy card. Seems like a shoo-in for "red mythic."
I agree, it's a great card.
No idea, I picked up my playset last summer when I built my Breach Titan modern deck and they are almost three times as expensive now. They might be saving it for EMA2 but who knows.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
This draft format looks like "draft the best cards in any color and then a bunch of fixing." I don't know how well that will actually play in terms of gameplay.
Without knowing most of the commons/uncommons so far yeah, there so much fixing that you can easily play 3-4-5 colours.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
EE is out, Chalice isn't necessarily out.
It doesn't even matter. We know there are 11 fixers at common and 15 at uncommon (10 signets + 5 trilands). This is a pretty clear "draft everything good" format.
Explosives is out. Chalice still has a possible slot.
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