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[Yeef]

I'm freaking out. I didn't say that

Haha. Must've had a multi-quote and not realized it.

Wasn't Griselbrand one of the demons and didn't she kill a couple of them prior already?

There's 4 demons: Kothophed, Griselbrand, Razaketh and Belzenlok.

She's defeated Kothophed and Griselbrand so far, both with the use of the Chain Veil.

Apparently, though, Kothophed had sent Liliana to get the Chain Veil for himself, but instead she used it against him, so that was poor planning on his part.

 

[Jhriad]

As a Zombie tribal player in multiple formats I continue to be annoyed that Time to Reflect is White.

Holy fuck

Damn.

 

[Pundere]

Standard idea:
Turn 1: Untapped black mana, Walking Ballista for 0, Bone Picker.

 

[TheBlackMarvel]

Standard idea:
Turn 1: Untapped black mana, Walking Ballista for 0, Bone Picker.

Turn 2: Shock.

 

[Pundere]

Turn 2: Shock.

A man can dream.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I just played Mardu Vehicles and put Trials in to sub for Avacyn and nothing can even close to beat me.

Let's see how it goes through the weekend, but Gideon, Ally of Zendikar is just so ridiculously OP.

 

["God's Beard!"]

First draft deck:

Guess I'll find out how good Bontu and Open to Wonder are lol

edit: bontu sucks

 

[charlequin]

That's not being dicks but being considerate. Being dicks would have been to not restore her to full capacity.
If you take for example Yennefer from the witcher novels who despite being able to retain a young experience went to great lengths to regain the possibility of motherhood without success.

I suspect on average someone who's 1000 years old has gotten parenthood out of their system and probably on average would prefer to not suffer pain on a regular basis, lol.

 

[Bandini]

Bone Picker is sick. Might have to brew up a modern Amonkhet Aristocrats deck.

MM 2017 boxes are getting pretty cheap on eBay. Just picked up a case for $735

 

[HK-47]

I suspect on average someone who's 1000 years old has gotten parenthood out of their system and probably on average would prefer to not suffer pain on a regular basis, lol.

Also Liliana is not Yennefer.

 

[ultron87]

What dumb 6-drop can we Eldritch Evolution Bone Picker into on Turn 3?

 

[kirblar]

What dumb 6-drop can we Eldritch Evolution Bone Picker into on Turn 3?

How about a 7 or 8-drop?

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Also Liliana is not Yennefer.

Sure but you can't deny there are similarities.

I suspect on average someone who's 1000 years old has gotten parenthood out of their system and probably on average would prefer to not suffer pain on a regular basis, lol.

There doesn't appear to be a Vess dynasty so who knows.

 

[ultron87]

How about a 7 or 8-drop?

Took me a sec, but yeah, Emerge is indeed pretty good with that.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

How about a 7 or 8-drop?

Via Gearhulk?

EDIT: Oh right. Evolution exiles itself. You mean Emerge.

 

[Angry Grimace]

People seem to really, really REALLY like bad force spike because I've seen it a million times in just random brew games.

 

[Simply Sarah]

People seem to really, really REALLY like bad force spike because I've seen it a million times in just random brew games.

It's interesting from a tempo standpoint. It can counter something early or can be cycled away once its value drops or you need something else. It also makes, say, holding up 1U after turn 2 less painful because you can always just cycle if it's not used. I'm not sure it's actually good but it's certainly something to look at.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I just don't think counterspells magically got good despite the number of counterspells I keep seeing. It's part of why trying to test stuff on the first day is dumb; its always 80% counterspell decks no matter how obviously bad counterspells are.

 

["God's Beard!"]

I'm just playing a white aggro deck with 8 gideons and splashing 4 Glorious End and some shocks and magma sprays in the sideboard right now.

 

[kirblar]

I just don't think counterspells magically got good despite the number of counterspells I keep seeing.

I don't think it's an accident that this set has 3-4 playable ones after CHIMERIC IDOLS GONE WILD ran over Standard the past 6 months.

 

[SigmasonicX]

For those unaware what's going on, people here are using unofficial services to play with the new cards online.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I don't think it's an accident that this set has 3-4 playable ones after CHIMERIC IDOLS GONE WILD ran over Standard the past 6 months.

There aren't a bunch of magically playable counterspells. You still lose to value.

For those unaware what's going on, people here are using unofficial services to play with the new cards online.

Wrong. The MTGO beta is free to sign up for, its just that nobody wants to put in 10 minutes of effort to fill out the form.

 

[Santiako]

For those unaware what's going on, people here are using unofficial services to play with the new cards online.

MODO beta.

 

[Poppy]

really wish beta drafts didnt have random nonsense cards in it, even if i understand its for testing interactions

 

[kirblar]

The reason WotC blind-eyes this is because it's effectively the same thing as playtest cards w/ marker that you use when playtesting IRL. As long as no one's profiting they generally don't intervene.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

really wish beta drafts didnt have random nonsense cards in it, even if i understand its for testing interactions

The do scheduled drafts on weekends.

 

[Poppy]

The do scheduled drafts on weekends.

yeah and i always intend to do them but then i sleep through it or forget or play a different game instead

why isnt wizards thinking about MY life huh

 

[Angry Grimace]

I mean, I guess, but I keep beating these counterspell guys by resolving Rhonas and one of any number of 2 drops, or a manland.

I really like Nissa so far. Decks like control just get utterly wrecked by that card.

 

[Wulfric]

There aren't a bunch of magically playable counterspells. You still lose to value.



Wrong. The MTGO beta is free to sign up for, its just that nobody wants to put in 10 minutes of effort to fill out the form.

Do you know where to sign up? I clicked on apply now and it took me to my wizards account info page.

http://wizards.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2265/~/magic-online-closed-beta-requirements

Nvm, I found it. It's in the customer support portal if anyone is interested.

 

[HK-47]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";233941753]I'm just playing a white aggro deck with 8 gideons and splashing 4 Glorious End and some shocks and magma sprays in the sideboard right now.[/QUOTE]
Dying to Gideon is really the most glorious end

 

[bigkrev]

I've been signed up for the beta for years, far emails regularly, but any time I try to install the beta client I get errors.

Oh well

 

[ironmang]

For those unaware what's going on, people here are using unofficial services to play with the new cards online.

Yep xmage and cockatrice. Testing isn't as good as mtgo but even mtgo testing isn't great outside of limited given the cost giving an inaccurate meta.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I asked some dude why he's so into counterspells and he just generically said "the card are better now."

But they aren't. Kefnet seems fucking TERRIBLE against anyone doing anything. It's just Jaemdae Tome.

 

[Santiako]

I haven't tested it yet, but I have to imagine a WR Extert deck with Always Watching should be pretty sweet, RG Gods is another I'd like to try that should be good.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Man, Cartouche of Solidarity and Consuming Fervor are super good in bogles. I didn't even consider that Cartouche is resistant against both Liliana AND engineered explosives.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I haven't tested it yet, but I have to imagine a WR Extert deck with Always Watching should be pretty sweet, RG Gods is another I'd like to try that should be good.

Its Tier 1 if you get Always Watching out on Turn 3. I mean, you can't actually do that.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Wasn't Griselbrand one of the demons and didn't she kill a couple of them prior already?

Kothophed and Griselbrand are dead; Razaketh is on Amonkhet somewhere, but we don't know anything about Belzenlok.

 

[ironmang]

I'm not even going to think about standard until the ban update. What will be good depends a lot on what, if anything, is banned.

 

[Firemind]

I think it's bullshit Liliana offs these ancient demons with such ease, veil or no veil. The veil only amplfies her powers, right? So she can summon more zombies. Whoop.

 

[Crocodile]

For those unaware what's going on, people here are using unofficial services to play with the new cards online.

tfw you are spectating a shonen battle and you have to explain all the secret techniques the combatants are using because nobody else has any idea what is happening

 

[Angry Grimace]

I'm not even going to think about standard until the ban update. What will be good depends a lot on what, if anything, is banned.

I mean, I haven't bothered making decks with Gideon or Cat in them. There's no real point.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I think it's bullshit Liliana offs these ancient demons with such ease, veil or no veil. The veil only amplfies her powers, right? So she can summon more zombies. Whoop.

I mean, they're like 5/5s. It's not that unreasonable.

She can tap into it to be ridiculously powerful, but she almost never fully taps in either.

I've been signed up for the beta for years, far emails regularly, but any time I try to install the beta client I get errors.

Oh well

You have to uninstall the regular client; it doesn't work with both because the system isn't set up to connect to different servers the way something like World of Warcraft is.

 

[Son1x]

I just want to brew a janky drake haven cycling deck. Gogo cat and gideon ban

 

[Ozigizo]

I just want to brew a janky drake haven cycling deck. Gogo cat and gideon ban

I preordered a playset of glorious ends. I'm all in on this jank.

 

[Imperfected]

I think it's bullshit Liliana offs these ancient demons with such ease, veil or no veil. The veil only amplfies her powers, right? So she can summon more zombies. Whoop.

She makes them discard all their cards.

Which doesn't actually work great against Griselbrand or Kothophed, but ignore that.

 

[Infinite Stars]

She makes them discard all their cards.

Which doesn't actually work great against Griselbrand or Kothophed, but ignore that.

Best part about Kothophed was getting to kill your opponent in draft with his ability by chumping with Thopters

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Alright I've singled down on my next EDH project.

At the helm of a smallpox deck

so stuff like the following

effectively a braids deck mixed with a nekusar deck mixed with a mogis deck. And yes legit tibalt.

Anyone else went to enough events to get one of the battle land promos? I was lucky enough to get the best one.

 

[Poppy]

arent two of tibalts abilities just straight nonbos with that game plan

with his first ability remaining terrible as always

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

arent two of tibalts abilities just straight nonbos with that game plan

with his first ability remaining terrible as always

Oh there'll be a heavy graveyard theme so the discard won't matter too much. You gotta play him somewhere and this is the best I'll ever be able to manage.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I just want to brew a janky drake haven cycling deck. Gogo cat and gideon ban

Just played a dude on MTGO who is convinced neither Cat or Gideon eats a ban.