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[Imperfected]

I don't know, I feel like people playing big dumb hyper-expensive commanders have it bad enough without having to worry about everyone in Blue at the table getting their Praetor or whatever out for half price while they're durdling around with mana acceleration.

Also you forgot a "d", unless commanzone is some awesome part of Pauper format I don't know about.

 

[Repgnar]

Speaking of Ramunap Red, I didn't see any at Gamesday. Is that because it wasn't performing well online or just not enough time for people to get the deck set up since last weekend? Or something else? The zombies were out in full force today. Majority of which were black although I saw a few splash blue for locust and the two person card (I don't know most names of anything before Kaladesh) I find those games grindy and not the most satisfying of games of Magic win or lose. WIth the rotation that deck should mostly die in it's current form right?

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

I don't know, I feel like people playing big dumb hyper-expensive commanders have it bad enough without having to worry about everyone in Blue at the table getting their Praetor or whatever out for half price while they're durdling around with mana acceleration.

That's fair at those costs it does penalize players with expensive commanders or enables them which is just as bad.

 

[Violet_0]

I've submitted a design for Begging for Adultery several times as a Red take control of creature until end of turn card, but they aren't having it.

you may flip a coin instead of paying the mana cost. If you lose, Begging for Adultery deals 5 damage to your self esteem

 

[Imperfected]

That's fair at those costs it does penalize players with expensive commanders or enables them which is just as bad.

Yeah, I mean my first thought is I could really go for 3U Progenitus without having to do any graveyard-stocking or tutoring shenanigans first.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Yeah, I mean my first thought is I could really go for 3U Progenitus without having to do any graveyard-stocking or tutoring shenanigans first.

Yeah with that in mind I don't know how to prize it.
Clones copying commanders on the field is already too powerful as is.

 

[themaskedndi]

Came in 2nd out of 19 at Game Day, which is a lot better than I was expecting to do! I ran a Crested Sunmare deck, which matched up really well against Red Aggro decks. The Adorned Pouncer promo cards are beautiful.

 

[Justin]

Melissa is killing it on commentary

I agree. She has been giving some really good strategy advice that as a new player I hadn't considered.

Edit: Catching up on some eairler rounds and Ben Stark looks so salty in his match against UR control.

Edit2: The WU Second Sun deck looks fun

 

[Wulfric]

Scrubbed out this Game Day going only 2-3 in swiss. Control kicked my B/G snake ass.

On the plus side, I left with plenty of shiny kitty promos. Just look at this thing - I have no clue how Kev Walker does it. Truly, he is a master with a brush.

 

[Imperfected]

Dana says Ramp is out, scrubs! Sell your Ulamogs!

 

[StrategyFan]

game day was 9 rounds for me. finished in 2nd. i built a nonsense deck with some cheap cards

i ran into some scary decks, but there was quite a bit of variety. i don't really play standard, but it seems reasonable if this free event was anything to go by

downsides would be:

• the good removal isn't very exciting, but seems necessary. i'm not sure that combination is good
• going 1st is too much of an advantage
• there is no (real) reason to play a 1-color cycling land over a 2-color one. that seems silly

 

["God's Beard!"]

There's a bunch of Modern PPTQs coming up and I might actually have the time for Magic for the first time in a couple years.

The problem is that Bogles is so bad against Death's Shadow and I've neglected Modern long enough that I'm not super comfortable playing Lantern.

 

[Rommel]

Just started getting back into Magic after a 20 year break (sadly my parents lost my Beta and Unlimited cards in a move ) and I forgot about how much crack they sprinkle in these cards.

It's particularly a problem since I'm a natural collector on top of being semi-serious players when it comes to game. While I know singles are the real way to go... but being a degenerate gambler packs are what do it for me

In the last 2 weeks I've opened the following booster boxes

Modern Masters 2013
Modern Masters 2017 x3
Eternal Masters x3
Eldritch Moon
Hour of Devastation

Have 2 Kaledesh boxes incoming but I think I'm done until Ixalan drops.

Deckbox is great but holy crap entering the cards at first is painful.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Putting my foot on the gas a little bit.

With more than 20 spells in the maindeck alone, I'm curious about trying some Weaver of Lightnings in the board.

 

[Loam]

Can anyone here recommend some decent storage/organization solution for cards? I played magic a bit in the 90s but was never too heavily into it so a random shoe box sufficed. Over the last year or two however, I've started drafting with some friends on a fairly regular basis and the old shoe box solution is starting to not quite cut it.

Also, is there any reason to hold on to all these excess commons? Tossing cards seems like a waste, but unless I'm missing something even a bulk amount of them isn't going to have any sort of monetary/trade value.

 

[Imperfected]

Can anyone here recommend some decent storage/organization solution for cards? I played magic a bit in the 90s but was never too heavily into it so a random shoe box sufficed. Over the last year or two however, I've started drafting with some friends on a fairly regular basis and the old shoe box solution is starting to not quite cut it.

Also, is there any reason to hold on to all these excess commons? Tossing cards seems like a waste, but unless I'm missing something even a bulk amount of them isn't going to have any sort of monetary/trade value.

You can get the large cardboard boxes with internal dividers a lot of stores use for (un)commons. They're entirely made of cardboard so they ship cheap and relatively small, with mild hand-assembly. You can store a reasonably-sized collection with just one of the five-division ones, which is also relatively convenient for organizing by color, mana cost, etc.

 

[ElyrionX]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";245508204]There's a bunch of Modern PPTQs coming up and I might actually have the time for Magic for the first time in a couple years.

The problem is that Bogles is so bad against Death's Shadow and I've neglected Modern long enough that I'm not super comfortable playing Lantern.[/QUOTE]

Lol you're still on Bogles after so long?

Time to get on the UWx control hype train and wait for JTMS to be unbanned.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Lol you're still on Bogles after so long?

Time to get on the UWx control hype train and wait for JTMS to be unbanned.

I actually lost a game to UW Control with Bogles once at a GP side event. I won the match, but I was shaking for hours later with the shocking reality of my own incompetence.

If I was a good player like Reid Duke I never would have lost in that matchup.

 

[TheBlackMarvel]

Speaking of Ramunap Red, I didn't see any at Gamesday. Is that because it wasn't performing well online or just not enough time for people to get the deck set up since last weekend? Or something else? The zombies were out in full force today. Majority of which were black although I saw a few splash blue for locust and the two person card (I don't know most names of anything before Kaladesh) I find those games grindy and not the most satisfying of games of Magic win or lose. WIth the rotation that deck should mostly die in it's current form right?

Gisa and Geralf?

 

[Zocano]

I haven't gone to a PPTQ before but there are several within the next two-three weeks I can go to (for modern). Maybe I should go. I've been doing okay with Affinity but I haven't run it a whole lot. I'm getting much better with each time I take it to FNM, tho.

I actually mostly wanna do it cause that promo Emrakul at the RPTQ looks reeeaaaaal sharp.

 

[StrategyFan]

is there a centralized place to read about some interesting/effective ways to use a card?

kind of like the gatherer rules clarification notes except for strategy/combos

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Alright someone explain wtf they were thinking

Before anyone asks, EDH.

 

[bigkrev]

Alright someone explain wtf they were thinking


Before anyone asks, EDH.

It was a way to swap colors of your CoPs. That's why it's common.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

It was a way to swap colors of your CoPs. That's why it's common.

Not sure if that's amazing or just stupid.

 

[bigkrev]

Not sure if that's amazing or just stupid.

The Cumulative upkeep thing is to prevent multiple switches, and adds a way to wait out the circle. It's a relatively simple effect (for its time), just terribly templateded and spelled out

 

[Santiako]

Streams are back on:

https://www.twitch.tv/scgtour SCG Modern

https://www.twitch.tv/magic GP Standard

 

[Joe Molotov]

Alright someone explain wtf they were thinking

Bald old men in thongs is gonna bring in the ladies.

 

[Santiako]

Quinton Hoover's art was incredible. Look at that piece for a random bad common!

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

The Cumulative upkeep thing is to prevent multiple switches, and adds a way to wait out the circle. It's a relatively simple effect (for its time), just terribly templateded and spelled out

still baffling to add a cumbersome effect in cumuutive upkeep, while messing with colours, which is only relevant in already fairly complex situations in the first place.

This is everything NWO was made for.

 

[Santiako]

RG Vengevine with Hollow Ones just doing turn 3 kills on camera. Modern!

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

what's wotc's issue with turning on mics belated all the time? they've been doing twitch streams for years they should be better by now.

 

[phazedplasma]

This is the first magic tournament Ive enjoyed in a long time.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Man my Br Midrange deck is super fun. I don't really think I can beat a control deck but I don't expect to face a ton of them and Abrade kills the gearhulks at least.

 

[Maledict]

still baffling to add a cumbersome effect in cumuutive upkeep, while messing with colours, which is only relevant in already fairly complex situations in the first place.

This is everything NWO was made for.

It's also an Ice Age set card, and Ice Age was *ridiculously* badly designed. It's as if a group of mathematicians who like obscure 3D knot puzzles built a set. There were lots of cards in it that just don't make sense, and have incredibly narrow effects yet are at common level.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Keep or Mull: on the draw vs Mardu Vehicles post-board

 

[Santiako]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";245535612]Keep or Mull: on the draw vs Mardu Vehicles post-board

[/QUOTE]

Mull clearly.

 

[red13th]

Ice Age is so bad, I loved it when I was young but everything is either stupidly overcosted, has terrible mechanics or doesn't really do anything.

 

[charlequin]

Quinton Hoover's art was incredible. Look at that piece for a random bad common!

R.I.P.

The auctions his family did recently included original sketches for many of his early cards including Alpha stuff and Ivory Gargoyle which is easily one of my all-time favorites: http://www.gatheringmagic.com/mikelinnemann-01182017-preview-of-hoover-art-sales/

Or the sketch for Vesuvan Doppelganger (only of one half!) which went for like $4500:

When I'm a gazillionaire I'm gonna chase down whoever owns a few of my favorite pieces of his and throw money at them until they cough 'em up.

Ice Age is so bad, I loved it when I was young but everything is either stupidly overcosted, has terrible mechanics or doesn't really do anything.

This is why I was so confused when people said it was better than Alliances.

FWIW, you can't overestimate how much of the appeal of Ice Age at the time was literally just the fact that it was the first ever "standalone" large set.

 

[Daedardus]

R.I.P.

The auctions his family did recently included original sketches for many of his early cards including Alpha stuff and Ivory Gargoyle which is easily one of my all-time favorites: http://www.gatheringmagic.com/mikelinnemann-01182017-preview-of-hoover-art-sales/



Or the sketch for Vesuvan Doppelganger (only of one half!) which went for like $4500:



When I'm a gazillionaire I'm gonna chase down whoever owns a few of my favorite pieces of his and throw money at them until they cough 'em up.



This is why I was so confused when people said it was better than Alliances.

FWIW, you can't overestimate how much of the appeal of Ice Age at the time was literally just the fact that it was the first ever "standalone" large set.

Have to say, not really fond of the artstyle, since I don't generally like older Magic art because I'm one of those millenials that is probably killing the fantasy art industustry or whatever, but damn, those are some impressive sketches and incrediby skilled art. It's sad to see a talented artist have to go so soon, life's quite unfair, and I wonder what he could have done with proper art direction.

 

[SigmasonicX]

I was thinking that a neat silver bordered effect could be an extra turn that has a time limit, like 10 seconds. But then I realized you have to deal with your opponents having to react.

Maybe something like this.

Lightning Round - 2RR
Sorcery
Take an extra turn after this one. Skip that turn's postcombat main phase. You have ten seconds from start of turn to the end of your declare attackers step. Your opponents can't do anything during that time. At the end of that time, your turn jumps to the declare blockers step.

 

[Santiako]

GP Top 8 is 3 GB Snake, 1 Ramunap Red, 1 RB Control, 1 Zombies, 2 Mardu Vehicles

SCG Top 8 is Merfolk, 2 Eldrazi Tron, 2 UR Storm, Affinity, Death Shadow, Jeskai Control

 

[SigmasonicX]

Goblin Dark-Dwellers recurring Grasp of Darkness!

 

[SigmasonicX]

I don't get it. Nathan used Goblin Dark-Dwellers to recur some red spell apparently targeting the Relentless Dead, then Steve used Ifnir Deadlands (at instant speed?) and it remained on the board?

 

[Santiako]

I don't get it. Nathan used Goblin Dark-Dwellers to recur some red spell apparently targeting the Relentless Dead, then Steve used Ifnir Deadlands (at instant speed?) and it remained on the board?

I'm not watching but did he have another Relentless Dead on the graveyard?

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

a shortcut was what I was thinking

 

[SigmasonicX]

I'm not watching but did he have another Relentless Dead on the graveyard?

Nothing moved on the board, and the commentators were saying something about him activating Ifnir Deadlands, apparently in response, even though that's restricted to sorcery speed, noting that he chose to sacrifice that and not another desert.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

if there was another in the graveyard he could have paid 3 to get a relentless dead back to the battlefield and another back to his hand.

He could have just returned the one from his graveyard to his hand as a shortcut.

Only sensible explanation.

He sacked Ifnir to Scavenger Grounds with GDD on the stack.

or not. Much simpler.

 

[Bonethug]

Nothing moved on the board, and the commentators were saying something about him activating Ifnir Deadlands, apparently in response, even though that's restricted to sorcery speed, noting that he chose to sacrifice that and not another desert.

He sacked Ifnir to Scavenger Grounds with GDD on the stack.

 

[SigmasonicX]

He sacked Ifnir to Scavenger Grounds with GDD on the stack.

Oh, OK, he exiled the graveyard. That makes more sense. I was thinking he placed two -1/-1 counters on Relentless Dead to avoid a Magma Spray and recurred it, and everyone forgot Ifnir Deadlands is sorcery speed.

 

[SigmasonicX]

Interesting story from the commentators: Siege Rhino was given trample in order to beat First Response decks, which were overpowering in FFL. Then they weakened First Response to its current state, and never removed trample from Siege Rhino.

EDIT: Here's the article about this. I thought the Siege Rhino part wasn't mentioned there, but it was.