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Magic: the Gathering |OT12| Hour of Devastation - Hour of Jace getting dunked on
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If Marchesa is the last foil Grixis commander I consider that a good thing as that's one less new card that is being wasted on a hard to use 3 color card and can be used for a monocolored card with wide applications. Scion of the Ur-Dragon puzzles me as we've only seen two 5 color dragon legends (also the Cat Dragon is a regular rare, not mythic) but per Starcity, Scion is still a rare not mythic:
So I'm a bit confused. EDIT: Oh right, Ramos. Yeah that is 5 color by EDH color identity rules, I forgot
As an aside, here's a new card (that is only useable in multplayer):
"Gate Mage" 2U
Creature – Human Wizard
Flash
When "Gate Mage" enters the battlefield during the declare attackers step, you may reselect the player or planeswalker that the target attacking creature attacks.
This is a translation just in case this wasn't clear. Real English text might vary slightly.
So I'm a bit confused. EDIT: Oh right, Ramos. Yeah that is 5 color by EDH color identity rules, I forgot
As an aside, here's a new card (that is only useable in multplayer):
"Gate Mage" 2U
Creature – Human Wizard
Flash
When "Gate Mage" enters the battlefield during the declare attackers step, you may reselect the player or planeswalker that the target attacking creature attacks.
This is a translation just in case this wasn't clear. Real English text might vary slightly.
They have only shown 2 new Wizard ones (Mairsil and Inalla) so there should be at lease one more new one that hasn't been shown yet.
We've seen the 3 5c dragons (Ur-Dragon, O-Kagachi and Ramos). Scion is just a reprint.
There will be a third new Grixis Wizard, Marchesa is not foil.
SigmasonicX
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It was mentioned in yesterday's story podcast that Taigam (Sultai version) has a UB card, so that's probably it.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
if you also have infinite mana which begs the question why you haven't won yet.So with Mairsil, you could use
To bounce and recast, allowing for infinite shenanigans, right?
I mean with a Haste enabler too
No, there has to be a third UBR one. Taigam will be a plus like the other one or the mono white equipment cat or the jund cat dragon. We're most likely also missing at least one new non-mardu commander from the mardu deck.
Hm? Trying to get around the once per turn rider
You still have to pay the mana cost for the ability.
This I understand. I guess I'm theory crafting how many pieces you need to make him go infinite by himself. Probably too many
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
there's a mana missing in my post.
He's not a commander for infinite shenanigans imo. You still want a couple of untap abilities in the deck as well as flicker to get more value out of him though.
If you already have infinite mana, access to Arcanis and a way to give him haste you have already won
All spells this turn not just the ones you cast? Seems pretty good, especially if you copy it with Inalla then sac the copy.
Duuuuuuuuuuude that's Mind's Desire made creature! I freaking love the Magus Megacycle.
What's the difference? You are just adding Mairsil there for no reason lol
I would like to do more than just draw cards, plus Arcanis is only one color.
How do you suggest winning with just Arcanis?
Dude, it's commander. The whole point is to do the biggest dumbest thing possible.
All spells this turn not just the ones you cast? Seems pretty good, especially if you copy it with Inalla then sac the copy.
See:
It looks at all spells in order to mimic the Storm ability.
As an aside, we've seen Magus of the Wheel and Magus of the Will over past commander sets. Crazy sorceries turned into Human Wizards. Will we see versions for a noteworthy Green or White spell? Armageddon? Natural Order?
Mairsil with haste enabler with Arcanis exiled with infinte mana is literally the same as Arcanis in the same condition. You'll just draw your whole deck and use your wincon of choice (Blue Sun Zenith, Labman, etc).
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I don't like this because you do it all at once instead of one at a time.
All spells this turn not just the ones you cast? Seems pretty good, especially if you copy it with Inalla then sac the copy.
Mairsil will be the one making the infinite mana.
I am not trying to just make infinite mana generically. I can already do that.
I want Marisil to be the infinite mana engine all by himself using his Cage Voltron ability.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Why would it matter? You also get to order the spells and timing in a way Mind's Desire doesn't actually let you do. The effect itself is basically stronger than Mind's Desire (particularly given you don't have to just spend 6 mana straight up on the turn you're trying to storm out) depending on how your deck is built, it's just that they'll kill your dude.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
stifle, trickbind, voidslime, disallow, voidmage husher, nimble obsturctionist,...
UB is lacking in good nonmill commanders so this is pretty dece.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Okay this is amazing with mairsil
I wonder what would happend when you tried to create a token of a card that's not a permanent
checked gatherer text and it's a copy of an exiled card.
I wonder what would happend when you tried to create a token of a card that's not a permanent
Yes, we know for sure she is not foil. There is still one Grixis wizard commander and at least one more commander in the vampire deck (but not full mardu). Anything else is a bonus.
Are you trying to copy the cards you exile with Mairsil? I don't think that works...
Edit:
Are you trying to put Mimic Vat ON Mairsil?
God I was thinking so small... that's amazing if it works
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
exactly, it should work as any self referential stuff refers to "this card" not cards named this and the oracle text of mimic vat reads
Just like how this should work
See:
It looks at all spells in order to mimic the Storm ability.
As an aside, we've seen Magus of the Wheel and Magus of the Will over past commander sets. Crazy sorceries turned into Human Wizards. Will we see versions for a noteworthy Green or White spell? Armageddon? Natural Order?
Minds Desire might be the #1 card on the list of "No one ever plays this by the rules". Every single person will just shuffle and flip X cards, instead of "Shuffle, flip 1, Shuffle, flip 1, Shuffle, flip 1...." that you are technically supposed to do, lol
Here's the last foil grixis commander. Flashback something every turn. Strong.
Love this one!
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You can stifle, trickbind, voidslime, disallow, voidmage husher, nimble obstructionist the storm trigger on Mind's Desire
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I don't see an easy way to go infinite with mairsil on his own. You need a ton of mana generation on him as well as a way to bounce him. These are the cheapest self bouncers I could find
Doubling cube might be enough
Doubling cube might be enough
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
reading up on it the self referential exile stuff might not work after all with mairsil
this part in particular makes it sound like it
this part in particular makes it sound like it
Yeah, that's correct. Imprint-like abilities specifically only work with cards imprinted properly. For example, you can't use Mizzium Transreliquat to mix and match imprint abilities.
Simply Sarah
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Correct, it will not work as imprint and the cloning are linked abilities. Only cards exiled with the imprint ability can be cloned with the activated one.
I think this is the last card! From mtgcommander.net
Overall, I think I'm a bit disappointed in the assortment of new cards? Some good ones but too many are worthless for my needs. Really looking to see what reprints there are in each deck. That will be important.
I mean it also depends on what kind of reprints are in the decks but at a first glance......this seems accurate
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I feel like that could use some improvement in templating or visualization.
Take Izzet Chemister for instance he's in the same precon as Mairsil and they both exile cards you'd think you can cast all the cards Mairsil exiled if you take the chemister's ability on first glance.
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