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[A Serious Man]

I found my zombie token of choice.

 

[Big Icarus]

Bummer it's not may.

If that's not a "may" then I can't imagine a more useless card. I guess this set needed a vessel of volatility.

I mean yeah, thinking on it more it'd be obviously busted. A counterspell where you don't waste your mana if they pass their turn would be nuts.

A counterspell that telegraphs itself isn't exactly nuts.

 

[ultron87]

If it was may it would be pretty insane. Still a really cool card

I mean yeah, thinking on it more it'd be obviously busted. A counterspell where you don't waste your mana if they pass their turn would be nuts.

 

[Ashodin]

What the? It's similar to the custom card I reviewed this week!

 

[charlequin]

Aaw, if that was a may that'd be a super interesting card.

Probably not getting that for 2U given that Daring Apprentice was 1UU and you need to untap with it.

 

[darkside31337]

A counterspell that telegraphs itself isn't exactly nuts.

If it was may... then it wouldn't really matter. The only downside would be it being able to be countered itself by enchantment removal and your opponent know you have access to fire it off but that would easily be worth the upside of being able to efficiently spend your mana which isnt the case with a traditional counterspell (you have to keep mana up + your opponent actually has to play a spell you want to conuter)

 

[Keru_Shiri]

Power of the Moon combos nicely with Star field of Nyx. Also recurrable with Sun Titan. I'm sure there are other uses.

 

[SigmasonicX]

Pretty neat, though in one sense, I suppose it's just a bit better than "Target player discards a card." Still, how good it is will vary greatly on how good the opponent is.

Also, Moon Prism Power!

 

[Big Icarus]

If it was may... then it wouldn't really matter. The only downside would be it being able to be countered itself by enchantment removal and your opponent know you have access to fire it off but that would easily be worth the upside of being able to efficiently spend your mana which isnt the case with a traditional counterspell (you have to keep mana up + your opponent actually has to play a spell you want to conuter)

Without the word "may", this is Cancel at sorcery speed. Everyone needs to let that sink in before they ever consider playing this card.

 

[HK-47]

I found my zombie token of choice.

Thats a fine token.

 

[ultron87]

A counterspell that telegraphs itself isn't exactly nuts.

(This is all obviously evaluating it if it had "may", as a thought exercise.)

I mean I never played with Daring Apprentice (which I didn't know existed till Charlequin just mentioned it) but it seems like an effect that'd be pretty good for combo or control decks, especially against other counterspell decks. Going turn 3 Seal of Cancel (a turn where you might keep up a counterspell anyway) and then untapping for the rest of the game with a 0-mana Cancel ready to go seems pretty good. To stop your important card your opponent now needs an extra counter, and they need one more counter to protect their important card (and the counter would need to hit a triggered ability). Being able to Wrath in the early game with a counterspell up would be pretty strong against a lot of decks.

 

[red13th]

I found my zombie token of choice.

yeah it's my favourite too (Seb McKinnon!!!) but my husband likes this one, so, boo.

I think I'll get them both and use only the one I like! mwahaha

 

[kirblar]

Power of the Moon combos nicely with Star field of Nyx. Also recurrable with Sun Titan. I'm sure there are other uses.

The Sun Titan interaction is actually insane.

 

[Transhuman]

(This is all obviously evaluating it if it had "may", as a thought exercise.)

I mean I never played with Daring Apprentice (which I didn't know existed till Charlequin just mentioned it) but it seems like an effect that'd be pretty good for combo or control decks, especially against other counterspell decks. Going turn 3 Seal of Cancel (a turn where you might keep up a counterspell anyway) and then untapping for the rest of the game with a 0-mana Cancel ready to go seems pretty good. To stop your important card your opponent now needs an extra counter, and they need one more counter to protect their important card (and the counter would need to hit a triggered ability). Being able to Wrath in the early game with a counterspell up would be pretty strong against a lot of decks.

It's a mandatory, they are just going play the worst spell in their hand instantly to get rid of it

Edit: I can't read.

 

[Jhriad]

I found my zombie token of choice.

It's really too bad the Prerelease promo DFC Zombie token that's included in your Prerelease Kit isn't going to have this art on one of the sides.

 

[Big Icarus]

(This is all obviously evaluating it if it had "may", as a thought exercise.)

I mean I never played with Daring Apprentice (which I didn't know existed till Charlequin just mentioned it) but it seems like an effect that'd be pretty good for combo or control decks, especially against other counterspell decks. Going turn 3 Seal of Cancel (a turn where you might keep up a counterspell anyway) and then untapping for the rest of the game with a 0-mana Cancel ready to go seems pretty good. To stop your important card your opponent now needs an extra counter, and they need one more counter to protect their important card (and the counter would need to hit a triggered ability). Being able to Wrath in the early game with a counterspell up would be pretty strong against a lot of decks.

I do think that an enchantment with the ability to selectively counter a spell would be playable. And cards like Cursecatcher, and the new Spirit are actively good. Without the ability to control what spell you sacrifice this new card to, it is beyond bad. This is the most obvious skill test card I've ever seen. If it was a sorcery that said: "When an opponent casts their first spell after you cast (this sorcery), counter that spell." No one would play that card. Putting that effect on an enchantment doesn't make such a middling effect worth playing. Not even to get delirium IMO.

 

[Toxi]

The Sun Titan interaction is actually insane.

That's fucking nasty.

 

[Yeef]

It's just a one-sided Hesitation, which was one of my pet cards way back in the day.

 

[y2dvd]

Any of yall shop around Craigslist at all? Just found a guy that is willing to trade away his expedition catacomb for cheap for standard stuff. We'll be meeting up this Saturday. Will be an awesome find if it goes through. Bye bye tier2 Ramp deck, hello enemy fetchland that I've been trying to obtain forever!

 

[Bandini]

Any of yall shop around Craigslist at all? Just found a guy that is willing to trade away his expedition catacomb for cheap for standard stuff. We'll be meeting up this Saturday. Will be an awesome find if it goes through. Bye bye tier2 Ramp deck, hello enemy fetchland that I've been trying to obtain forever!

That's a good trade for you. Just make sure to meet him in a public place like a McDonalds.

 

[charlequin]

I mean I never played with Daring Apprentice (which I didn't know existed till Charlequin just mentioned it) but it seems like an effect that'd be pretty good for combo or control decks, especially against other counterspell decks. Going turn 3 Seal of Cancel (a turn where you might keep up a counterspell anyway) and then untapping for the rest of the game with a 0-mana Cancel ready to go seems pretty good.

Yes, people are significantly underestimating the value of Seal of Cancel, which is primarily in that you invest mana upfront and then have a zero mana counterspell available whenever you need it for the rest of the game. But yes, this is indeed not Seal of Cancel.

 

[OnPoint]

That zombie token is my most anticipated card in this set.

 

[Ashodin]

Zombie token has no right being that good looking

 

[The Technomancer]

Yes, people are significantly underestimating the value of Seal of Cancel, which is primarily in that you invest mana upfront and then have a zero mana counterspell available whenever you need it for the rest of the game. But yes, this is indeed not Seal of Cancel.

To be clear, we're not discussing the current card right?

 

["God's Beard!"]

Still the best

 

[charlequin]

To be clear, we're not discussing the current card right?

Yes, my point was that the hypothetical card with "Sacrifice ~: counter target spell" is much better than people are assuming.

 

[The Technomancer]

Yes, my point was that the hypothetical card with "Sacrifice ~: counter target spell" is much better than people are assuming.

Gotcha. Yeah it super is

 

[Ashodin]

Gimme the full spoilaaaaaaaaa

 

["God's Beard!"]

Gimme the full spoilaaaaaaaaa

Is it up tomorrow or next week?

 

[kirblar]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";209443984]Is it up tomorrow or next week?[/QUOTE]
Tomorrow.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Tomorrow.

Nice. Whispers.dec here we come.

 

[SigmasonicX]

Last predictions / hopes:
* Zombie Infestation
* Spellshapers (creatures that can "cast" a spell by paying the mana cost, discarding a card, and tapping), including one for Pyretic Ritual.
* Red copy/redirect spell with madness or escalate.
* Pestilence / Pyrohemia or some variation thereof.

 

[shrapnelmagnet]

It's just a one-sided Hesitation, which was one of my pet cards way back in the day.

Or 1/3 Decree of Silence. I doubt Decree ever saw play but having played against it, it can be really brutal, having to just cast shit into it.

 

[Ashodin]

Last predictions / hopes:
* Zombie Infestation
* Spellshapers (creatures that can "cast" a spell by paying the mana cost, discarding a card, and tapping), including one for Pyretic Ritual.
* Red copy/redirect spell with madness or escalate.
* Pestilence / Pyrohemia or some variation thereof.

Pestilence and shit would be amazing

 

["God's Beard!"]

Unfortunately the number crunch precludes the inclusion of Terramorphic Expanse.

5 color delirium rip

 

[Crocodile]

Pestilence and shit would be amazing

If by amazing you mean probably do nothing in Standard and ruin any Limited game it shows up in then yes, "amazing".

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";209448910]Unfortunately the number crunch precludes the inclusion of Terramorphic Expanse.

5 color delirium rip[/QUOTE]

Evolving Wilds is in BFZ block so you should be good for Standard

 

[Ashodin]

Pestilence would fuck over GW tokens

Redirect the player damage to Planeswalkers

 

[HK-47]

Pestilence would fuck over GW tokens

Redirect the player damage to Planeswalkers

Pestilence would get Commanded.

 

[Infinite Stars]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";209448910]Unfortunately the number crunch precludes the inclusion of Terramorphic Expanse.

5 color delirium rip[/QUOTE]
But Cavern of Souls is still Valid!

#BelieveInInnistrad

 

[Daedardus]

What do you guys use for deck boxes? I'm looking for something durable, easy to handle but with a nice aesthetic. Price isn't an issue, decks are more expensive anyway and it's more important to me that it keeps the deck safe.

 

[Angry Grimace]

If by amazing you mean probably do nothing in Standard and ruin any Limited game it shows up in then yes, "amazing".



Evolving Wilds is in BFZ block so you should be good for Standard

Terramorphic Expanse is strictly better than Evolving Wilds everyone knows this

(I think he wants to use both of them )

 

[twobear]

Emrakul altered moon life forms coming down to Innistrad sounds like a decent plan for Innistrad 3.

Should have been EM.

 

[Firemind]

What do you guys use for deck boxes? I'm looking for something durable, easy to handle but with a nice aesthetic. Price isn't an issue, decks are more expensive anyway and it's more important to me that it keeps the deck safe.

I use these.

 

[Daedardus]

I use these.

Did some research online today and apparantly these open up with the slightest shake. The Ultimate Guard are seemingly better in that regard. They are also cheaper, so I went with those, although I had to order them from the UK since there are no big stores selling them in the mainland.

 

[red13th]

I remember seeing a kickstarter for some pretty nifty wooden deckboxes, I don't know if they are for sale already though.

 

[ChazAshley]

Did some research online today and apparantly these open up with the slightest shake. The Ultimate Guard are seemingly better in that regard. They are also cheaper, so I went with those, although I had to order them from the UK since there are no big stores selling them in the mainland.

I recommend against those. Got one of them for my first EDH Deck. The cards fit ok (lots of leftover space) and like those reviews say, the cap really has no strength to it. I'm forced to always keep it in my hands or put something on top whenever I carry it in a bag. It looks and feels nice - but no practical use -

 

[A Serious Man]

I need that full spoiler. Can't wait to spend the next couple weeks brewing/testing, realize G/W/u is still king and then find something else to do with my summer.

 

[Daedardus]

I think those are the Wyrmwood boxes. They look really nice, have a lot of different types of wood, but they are also quite expensive (ranging from 70 to 400 dollars) and I don't know if I trust a wooden deckbox.

 

[Santiako]

I use a satin tower from ultra pro for my good EDH deck and a simple two piece plastic box for the rest (bad EDH, standard, etc)

 

[Firemind]

Did some research online today and apparantly these open up with the slightest shake. The Ultimate Guard are seemingly better in that regard. They are also cheaper, so I went with those, although I had to order them from the UK since there are no big stores selling them in the mainland.

I recommend against those. Got one of them for my first EDH Deck. The cards fit ok (lots of leftover space) and like those reviews say, the cap really has no strength to it. I'm forced to always keep it in my hands or put something on top whenever I carry it in a bag. It looks and feels nice - but no practical use -

Really? Never had that happen once and I use a sports bag.

Edit: For 60 + 15 sideboard cards I use these boxes from Hobby Japan.