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Magic: the Gathering |OT9| Kaladesh - Cruisin' Down the Street in my 6/4
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Because they used the rest of it on Khans.
charlequin
Banned
That might have been a mistake!
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
BFZ... people were rather excited after the initial reveal but Gideon was a heck of a card to start with.
Shadows was also very much hyped because of the flavour.
charlequin
Banned
The last time anything was, like, cheery and optimistic tone-wise would be Lorwyn; the last time we got a set that just felt chunky and neat with smooth mechanics that had lots of choices attached would probably be (OG) Innistrad.
The sinking feeling started super quick with that set tho.
Shame they don't work with Sigarda's Blessing.
As soon as MaRo started talking about the Eldrazi we knew we had problems.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Yeah and they also just showed like 2 nonland cards total at PAX.
Just a reminder for people not to get too into it before trying it out.
Innistrad looked amazing and it's my least favourite draft format in a while. EDM didn't do much to it.
Attendance was suser high at the start of Shadows with many newcomers here and that faded off withinow a couple weeks and EDM hardly picked up.
A Serious Man
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Even coming out of PAX a lot of people were talking about how the most exciting thing in BfZ were the full arts/expeditions.
BFZ never did anything for me, it's like that hot ex of yours that aged badly and after you knew what stuff she's been into you start to question yourself why you ever loved her.
Innistrad is one of the best sets in modern magic design so that isn't a bad thing.
You right, but we have yet to see more stuff.
SigmasonicX
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Drive to Work live stream, where MaRo talks about... something.
Wizards derped and put the wrong link up.
Wizards derped and put the wrong link up.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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FWIW and from what I've seen I really don't like Energy. Don't have a feel on it yet but it just looks off. Like that elf with 6 energy symbols as activating cost. It just looks bad.
I would have preferred a mana circle with the lightning over the sigil.
Vehicles look neat but I would have preferred a functionality that made them equipments in type at least. Best case scenario there'll be enough vehicles to make a fun EDH deck.
Speaking off EDH that UG card rubs me the wrong way. Wizards could do well powering that colour combo down or at least pushing some of the weaker ones like Boros and Rakdos.
Like make the dwarf be able to pull Dwarves or Artifacts when she taps.
Lastly I'm gonna pull the trigger on Narset Deploy Superfriends. Barring a few of the lands, filter and kamigawa cycle.
I would have preferred a mana circle with the lightning over the sigil.
Vehicles look neat but I would have preferred a functionality that made them equipments in type at least. Best case scenario there'll be enough vehicles to make a fun EDH deck.
Speaking off EDH that UG card rubs me the wrong way. Wizards could do well powering that colour combo down or at least pushing some of the weaker ones like Boros and Rakdos.
Like make the dwarf be able to pull Dwarves or Artifacts when she taps.
Lastly I'm gonna pull the trigger on Narset Deploy Superfriends. Barring a few of the lands, filter and kamigawa cycle.
SigmasonicX
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Aetherborn are nonbinary, and are generally addressed with the singular "they"
MaRo forgets the old templating, but this does bring to light a templating change: it's no longer "tap an untapped creature you control", but just "tap a creature you control" as a cost.
They tried some returning mechanics, none fit.
Confirmed no splitting for fabricate
MaRo forgets the old templating, but this does bring to light a templating change: it's no longer "tap an untapped creature you control", but just "tap a creature you control" as a cost.
They tried some returning mechanics, none fit.
Confirmed no splitting for fabricate
charlequin
Banned
Agreed.
It's not mana tho. Like making it clearly look different than mana symbols seems correct to me.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
While true they could have made the costs 6 with spend only mana produced by energy for it as templating.
I really dislike the look of it on cards maybe a softer tone would have made the difference the black is pretty stark in contrast with the rest of the cards.
A Serious Man
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Aetherborn are basically the Consortium from WoW, which is fine with me since BC-era content gives me the warm and fuzzies. I'm really interested to see how they're represented in this block.
SigmasonicX
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The Technomancer
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Man I think I've gone back and forth on energy like three times in the course of the day. I'm going to hold off on talking about it until we really see more of the set
lol tiny leaders
charlequin
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I can't imagine a world where that's an improvement. I think having a symbol that looks different from anything else is good because it's easy to parse quickly. You can tell a card provides energy or has an energy cost with a pretty quick glance, which is gonna help a lot in sorting for limited or reviewing the set.
Nothing shows how long the design -> print process on MTG is like this story.
What's the pro/con sides in your mind?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I splashed Avacyn in a GB draft deck today went 1-2 but was only once unable to cast Avacyn. Duskwatch recruiter is not a fair card.
SigmasonicX
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I remember you guys saying that Tiny Leaders isn't really a thing and it's just being pushed by card retailers, but has it completely fallen out of favor?
The Technomancer
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Basically waffling back and forth on either side of if its "enough" or not. The pro side of me says "man its going to be great because you're building up resources for decisions you don't know if you have to make or yet" and the con side of me says "yeah but the revealed cards so far feel like things I would normally pay mana for with some rebalancing".
I think what's missing so far is a real sense of when the decision to make energy matters. Thus far its a rider, a nice bonus you get when things happen, and then trade in for more good stuff later. I want to know if I'm going to be asking "do I need mana/an attack/this spell for this turn or do I want to invest in energy for a later turn?"
ShadowSwordmaster
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Just turned into the Drive to work stream and I didn't expect Rosewater to bring a steering wheel.
Simply Sarah
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My only potential concern with how energy is represented is that when you start getting higher costs it's easier to start getting lost in correctly counting the number. Other than that the way it's written is fine. And mechanically it seems very interesting.
SigmasonicX
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He did that last year too.
Also, confirmed you can have a Juggernaut driving a plane driving a boat driving a cab.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Energy is just charge counters combined with storage counters.
Imperfected
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I'm getting a nervous sort of Phantom Menace feeling from this set so far. Hopefully they're keeping a lot of stylish stuff that isn't related to all this Whacky Racers portion, like Gonti, on deck.
SigmasonicX
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If you're worried about the racing, just think of the N64 Pod Racing game instead of Phantom Menace.
Besides, we already know there are other vehicle types.
ShadowSwordmaster
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I didn't watch last year, but thank you for telling me.
is that even a thing anymore?
Nothing is more satisfying in vintage cube than drafting Dack and Daretti together and blazing thorugh your entire deck while stealing their stuff.
Giant Panda
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The problem with energy at least one the elf was counting all the symbols.
Yeah, I had the same reaction. Counting 6+ symbols is fine on the occasional splashy Green rare but hopefully Energy costs stay relatively low, because it'll be obnoxious if there's a ton of big number cards.
SigmasonicX
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That's the only card with that many energy symbols, apparently, and having so many symbols is a good way to give the instant impact of, "OK, if I'm going to draft this, I'll need to build up a lot of energy to use that ability."
YESSSSSSSS
SigmasonicX
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Preview card
Trample haste vehicle that enters the battlefield as a creature until end of turn.
Trample haste vehicle that enters the battlefield as a creature until end of turn.
A Serious Man
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Fairly mundane limited stuff.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I am getting a bit of a Vulshock Morningstar/Hoversail vibe of "and here's the fast fragile one and here's the one that flies" etc out of them. Like, their first set concepts for something that could be really cool two years from now
SigmasonicX
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I love the gremlin and camel. Aether Tradewinds is an interesting reprint.
World building panel on YouTube
World building panel on YouTube
Imperfected
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I definitely still need to see some instants/sorceries or effect creatures that interact with them in more interesting ways than what's on the table right now.
Hopefully they're a little more clever than the Emerge enablers we saw.
SigmasonicX
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Mechanics article is up. I guess it's time for me to update the OP.
Giant Panda
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Not a huge fan of vehicles. I kind of wish vehicles were equipment that could attach to multiple creatures, but I realize making rules for that would have been much trickier than what they did.
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