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[Tugatrix]

Black hole theory

Is this serious? Are these people serious?

yeah they have the confidence that only ignorance can give

 

[dejay]

Black hole theory

Is this serious? Are these people serious?

Occam's razor is getting pretty blunt.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

Flipped on Fox News, saw "PILOTS SOCIAL MEDIA EXPOSES INTEREST IN ATHEISM", flipped off Fox News.

I like how it's interest in atheism and not disinterest in whatever his faith was(likely muslim). I'm not even sure what that headline is supposed to imply. He was a Godless heathen?

 

[Oersted]

I have never seen media failing so much. Its embarassing. Speculations after speculations, barely any fact reporting.

 

[BearPawB]

I have never seen media failing so much. Its embarassing. Speculations after speculations, barely any fact reporting.

When there are no facts this is what you get. Filling air

 

[Sectorseven]

I like how it's interest in atheism and not disinterest in whatever his faith was(likely muslim). I'm not even sure what that headline is supposed to imply. He was a Godless heathen?

I heard he once read Atlas Shrugged.

How should I feel?

 

[SpyGuy239]

FUCK YOU FOX

Exactly. Damn you American media for propagating conspiracy where THERE IS NONE.

I mean who gives a shit about all those people mourning for the loss of their loved ones right?

 

[Oersted]

Exactly. Damn you American media for propagating conspiracy where THERE IS NONE.

I mean who gives a shit about all those people mourning for the loss of their loved ones right?

Based on the cams stuffed into their faces, they know. They know really well.

 

[Bsigg12]

I have never seen media failing so much. Its embarassing. Speculations after speculations, barely any fact reporting.

If there were facts to report then we would get around to them. As it stands we are still stuck on the who knows fuck all what happened to it and what the hell did they see in the satellite images. Problem is, they can't not talk about it otherwise they'll be labeled that it doesn't matter to them so they have to bring something even if it is speculation.

 

[jaxword]

You know there are gaffers who are VERY happy at seeing that and laugh to themselves.

 

[MGR]

 

[User Name Here]

There are a few things I found really interesting so far:

- The flight information shown on the youtube video I posted earlier.

- The second video posted by the same person that talked about the data being removed from the site he got it from. Although the site claimed it removed the data because it didn't match or make sense. I forgot which.


- This quote:

Investigators also extracted performance data from the Rolls Royce engines used on the Boeing 777 that suggested it lost 40,000 feet
within a minute, but have discounted the information as the rate of descent was improbable.
One aviation specialist told the NYT that the erratic changes in altitude suggested it was pilot-induced rather than mechanical.
“It is extremely difficult for an aircraft to physically, however heavy it might be, to free fall,” Cengiz Turkoglu, a senior lecturer in
aeronautical engineering at City University London who specialises in aviation safety, told the US daily.

- And the information that was released about the seismic event

Which leads me to a question for anyone that can answer....

How fast would the plane have to be traveling for it to actually descend ~40,000 in a minute if it could? Also, if the plane were somehow completely and suddenly displaced (not saying it was), what would happen to the force generated by the plane? Would it be cut off immediately or would that force still impact the area under the plane?

Btw, my apologies to any and everyone affected by this event. I realized a few people here are dealing with lost family...etc. So i'm sorry if any of the jokes I made here (about the machines or whatever) offended any of you.

And yesss, yesss, I know they "debunked" it!

Occam's razor is getting pretty blunt.

We're going to need to take a trip to Home Depo at this point.

 

[toxicgonzo]

Someone on reddit calculated the plane would only have to be flying an average of 450mph to do that. So mathematically it checks out, but with respect to physics....

To pull out of a nose dive like that would put huge stresses on the airplane. Civilian aircraft is not designed to do that. Would it break up? Hard to say, but the if plane exceeded its designed stress loads, much testing would have to be done to see if the plane is still airworthy.

 

[Trouble]

I'll admit it. It took me a minute.

 

[BunnyBear]

Oh for fuck's sake.

Fairfax Media is reporting that it wasn't Australian authorities who located the possible debris, but instead US satellite imagery. Australia didn't admit this because they didnt want America being angry at them for revealing the extent of their surveillance capabilities.

 

[User Name Here]

Someone on reddit calculated the plane would only have to be flying an average of 450mph to do that. So mathematically it checks out, but with respect to physics....

To pull out of a nose dive like that would put huge stresses on the airplane. Civilian aircraft is not designed to do that. Would it break up? Hard to say, but the if plane exceeded its designed stress loads, much testing would have to be done to see if the plane is still airworthy.

Very interesting. Especially since they can't seem to find any debris.

 

[soxinthebox]

 

[numble]

http://m.timesofindia.com/india/Mal...-and-Nicobar-Islands/articleshow/32374611.cms

NEW DELHI: India has declined China's proposal to allow four of its warships to join the hunt for the MH370 jetliner near the Andaman and Nicobar archipelago, even as it is now dispatching two aircraft to Malaysia to join the international search force that is now scanning southern Indian Ocean off Australia for the missing 777-200ER aircraft.

Officials on Thursday said China's request to allow its four warships, including two frigates and a salvage vessel, to enter Indian territorial waters has been "politely turned down" since Indian warships and aircraft are already searching the Bay of Bengal and Andaman Sea around the 572-island cluster.
While the Chinese warships are free to sail in international waters, Indian forces will obviously be unhappy about their presence anywhere near the strategically-located Andaman and Nicobar Islands.

"The A&N command is our military outpost in the region, which overlooks the Malacca Strait and dominates the Six-Degree Channel. We don't want Chinese warships sniffing around in the area on the pretext of hunting for the missing jetliner or anti-piracy patrols," said an official.

...

 

[DarkJediKnight]

I'll admit it. It took me a minute.

Did you seriously make a joke about the 40000 feet drop in a minute statement?

 

[HoosTrax]

Fairfax Media is reporting that it wasn't Australian authorities who located the possible debris, but instead US satellite imagery. Australia didn't admit this because they didnt want America being angry at them for revealing the extent of their surveillance capabilities.

Ehhh...

WorldView-2, owned by US satellite company DigitalGlobe, provides imagery at a resolution of approximately 50 cm. It takes a new image of any place on earth every 1.1 days (1 day, 2 hours and 24 minutes), writes deputy technology editor Ben Grubb.
DigitalGlobe confirmed on Friday that it was the one who provided the Australian Maritime Safety Authority (AMSA) with the satellite images that were captured on March 16, showing the two objects in the Indian Ocean.
“We have been informed by an Australian government official that it was our imagery Prime Minister Abbott referred to in his recent comments,” the company said in a statement.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-...plane-mh370-20140321-356k3.html#ixzz2wYjtVBJP

 

[Trouble]

Did you seriously make a joke about the 40000 feet drop in a minute statement?

Jesus man, no. What the fuck?

Perth is in the wrong place on that map.

 

[VE3TRO]

That Perth fail. Don't they research first?

 

[soxinthebox]

Did you seriously make a joke about the 40000 feet drop in a minute statement?

Or he could have taken a minute to realise Perth isn't located in Tasmania.

 

[bloodforge]

Someone should inform Australia that Perth is now in Tasmania.

 

[graywords]

Jesus man, no. What the fuck?

Perth is in the wrong place on that map.

Wait, so that was it... this wasn't about the "Seach Area" typo, then?

 

[dejay]

That Perth fail. Don't they research first?

No wonder we can't locate a plane when we so easily misplace a major city by 3700km. Must be parallax error or some shit.

(edit) Oh shit, didn't even see the "seach area". Damn.

 

[Trouble]

Wait, so that was it... this wasn't about the "Seach Area" typo, then?

Ha, I didn't even notice that.

 

[Ty4on]

Someone on reddit calculated the plane would only have to be flying an average of 450mph to do that. So mathematically it checks out, but with respect to physics....

To pull out of a nose dive like that would put huge stresses on the airplane. Civilian aircraft is not designed to do that. Would it break up? Hard to say, but the if plane exceeded its designed stress loads, much testing would have to be done to see if the plane is still airworthy.

In silk air the tailfin broke off during the fall. It's important to remember that the cruising speed is much higher than maximum airspeed because the air is much thinner at cruising altitude. Planes have vertical speed indicators in feet per minute that pretty much never go above 5000 AFAIK. 40000 (average!) is absurdly high.

ACARS is a data transmission system, SATCOM is the plane's satellite radio. ACARS can use SATCOM like an iPhone's Message App can use LTE or Wi-Fi to send texts and photos. The pings have nothing to do with ACARS, but were sent from a satellite and replied by SATCOM.

I read somewhere that it was the ACARS as I was writing the post while looking for another source. I was going to write it was a different system and thought I dodged looking stupid

 

[DrSlek]

That Perth fail. Don't they research first?

One would imagine that the first result for Perth on Google would be either in Western Australia, or Perth in England. There is a Perth in Tasmania, but I have no clue how anybody could have brought up that search result and missed the other 2.

Fun fact: There's also a Bagdad in Tasmania.

 

[Dommo]

For those of you not familiar with Australian's cities, the typo is not the only thing wrong with this image.

What network is this on?

 

[KHarvey16]

For those of you not familiar with Australian's cities, the typo is not the only thing wrong with this image.

What network is this on?

Looks like a local NBC affiliate. Google says KXAN call letters put it in Austin, TX.

 

[Stinkles]

For those of you not familiar with Australian's cities, the typo is not the only thing wrong with this image.

What network is this on?

This Island Perth - best sci fi movie ever.

Until Willbur Smith's amazing line in Colonial Independence Day, "Welcome ta Perf"

 

[Cerity]

KXAN, google returned that it works out of Austin, Texas. Which didn't surprise me really.

 

[Universaldamps]

Why wasn't I informed that my city has taken its place as Tasmania?

 

[dejay]

One would imagine that the first result for Perth on Google would be either in Western Australia, or Perth in England. There is a Perth in Tasmania, but I have no clue how anybody could have brought up that search result and missed the other 2.

Fun fact: There's also a Bagdad in Tasmania.

I think there's a Perth in Canada too (fake edit - yup). You'd think one Perth would be enough. I think there's a Bagdad or two in the US.

 

[SniperHunter]

http://m.timesofindia.com/india/Mal...-and-Nicobar-Islands/articleshow/32374611.cms

It makes sense. China was simply insulting India by asking to search Indian territory. I think the Indian airforce and navy can handle it, they have the technology and equipment.

 

[hom3land]

I think there's a Perth in Canada too (fake edit - yup). You'd think one Perth would be enough. I think there's a Bagdad or two in the US.

There's a town in North Carolina called Carthage.. Who names their town after a city burned, raped, and covered in Salt so nothing would grow again?

 

[AusRoachman]

Wow went to sleep and we were on the western side of the country, all of a sudden our whole city is now in tasmania.

This truly is an episode of lost.

 

[rocketskates]

So updated news, plane still not found, penguins may have been flying and Perth is now located on the other side of Australia.

Wtf.

 

[dejay]

There's a town in North Carolina called Carthage.. Who names their town after a city burned, raped, and covered in Salt so nothing would grow again?

Better than naming a town after some old, dead dude.

 

[Oersted]

Whats the source?

 

[CurlySaysX]

USA makes the rules, mates.
If we say Perth is a small island then so it be. Better get used to it Aussies.

 

[adj_noun]

There's a town in North Carolina called Carthage.. Who names their town after a city burned, raped, and covered in Salt so nothing would grow again?

Optimists.

 

[soxinthebox]

Whats the source?

I think it's a local TV station in Juneau, Texas

 

[AusRoachman]

South Pacific Ocean has now also been replaced by the coral sea but at least perth has warped back to its correct position.

EDIT : Mind you just looking at google earth and bing they also refer to it has the coral sea. Guess it depends on which image you use

 

[dejay]

USA makes the rules, mates.
If we say Perth is a small island then so it be. Better get used to it Aussies.

Screw you USA!

Spoiler

OK

Tasmania isn't that small though - it's bigger than a lot of countries.

Optimists.

Actually it's probably because Detroit was already taken.

 

[Ace Harding]

For those of you not familiar with Australian's cities, the typo is not the only thing wrong with this image.

What network is this on?

Oh man I hadn't even noticed the typo

 

[graywords]

No idea why I did this.

 

[Crazymoogle]

No idea why I did this.

10/10 sir.

 

[BunnyBear]

Anyone else got the hunch this will probably lead to nothing? Just seems too vague and unbelievable to believe it could be found so far away, and I remain unconvinced by the imagery thus far.