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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 ended in the Southern Indian Ocean
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A fun article about the writer's descent into conspiracy-theory madness.
Heebie Jeebies
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Fascinating
Neuromancer
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I believe it.
I was with him right up till he mentioned Baikonur.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Baikonur the only "spaceport" on earth left for manned missions? All the ISS Staff is launched from there - that place is of global importance, so... probably not the best place to hide an abducted plane?
And that's part of the reason I linked to it. (I don't agree with "madness" though).
He has credentials covering the industry. He's had to kick conspiracy trolls off of his own blog threads. He writes like he's level-headed.
Regardless of his conclusion, it's a good read about trying to find the truth in a flurry of facts, "facts" and single data points.
Also, cable news sucks. Good grief!
Veritigo_X
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Yeah this is what had me questioning it. Baikonur isn't some abandoned spaceport, it is still being used regularly by Russia for spaceflights to the ISS. There definitely are areas of the site that aren't being used, but that still doesn't make it a good place to hide an airplane. There's also a town of 36,000 close by, so it's not like this is some top secret black site.
The other thing that had me questioning it is the lack of motive for Russia to do this. Interesting read nonetheless.
Yeah the theory is ridiculous... I think that at some point if you want something to happen hard enough you'll manage to find arguments to make it sound plausible.
Like you said, not only is Baikonur not abandonned but it's like saying the american hid a 777 in Cape Canaveral and nobody noticed.
Also there's a bunch of americans (NASA employees and astronauts) that live there.
j_k_redtail
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I don't. How would you fiddle with the contents of the E/E bay midflight, without arousing the suspicions of the other passengers and crew?
Indeed.
The Shogun
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Not sure about his theory, its likely totally wrong, but at the same time I'm not convinced it just crash landed through mechanical failure into the ocean. There's actually no evidence to support that other than the plain is now gone.
The Lone Courier
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That reads like some Tom Clancy novel.
Pretty much. I'm not much into conspiracy theories but something was definitely up with the search initially saying "hey, we hear pings and we're pretty sure they aren't natural and must be from the plane" to "Nope, no plane anywhere possibly in the radius of where we heard them and now the window to hear pings has gone".
I don't buy pilot suicide, I don't buy an onboard heist. I do buy the idea some organization or Government spoofed those pings to throw the scent off the best window to find them.
BFIB
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The only part about the plane crashing into the ocean is that no debris has been found at all. Its possible the plane went on a completely different trajectory and we have been looking at the wrong place all along, but still. Not one sign of evidence is really odd in this day and age.
The question is why would somebody do this? No ransom or anything? Just capture a plane and kill everybody? Makes no sense.
Veritigo_X
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Conspiracy theorists certainly do. It was presented as an idea in the article that bumped this thread.
You could sell the spare parts for 8 digits easily.
LyleLanley
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Easily?
A spare 777? You could disassemble that thing and make mid 8 digits. If they landed at a maintenance hangar; they'd have the parts & tools readily accessible.
ThatGuyAgain
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About that hijack theory and doing it to kidnap the semiconductor employees... how did they stop all attempted cellphone communications from passengers during the entire situation? You would think at least someone would have a hidden cellphone and would try to send a text or call.
I don't know.. I still think that the plane was flying on autopilot with everyone on board dead until it ran out of fuel and crashed into the ocean.
I don't know.. I still think that the plane was flying on autopilot with everyone on board dead until it ran out of fuel and crashed into the ocean.
LyleLanley
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Yeah but you'd still have to hide the whole operation from any of the governments interested in finding the plane and you'd probably have to kill everyone on board.
Joe Shlabotnik
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I think he's questioning how easily you could convince someone that the spare 777 parts you're selling "fell off a truck".
Veritigo_X
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That's... a lot of work for not much payback. There are easier ways to make that kind of money that don't involve an Oceans 11 styled heist and killing ~250 passengers.
That's one hell of a truck!
Also that truck has that special ramp on the back that automatically scratch off all serial numbers of items falling out.
I simply can't believe a 777 would crash and not a single piece of debris would find its way to a shoreline.
The ocean is really big and most of the debris are going to the bottom.
There are cell phone jammers readily available on the internet. So that wouldn't be hard. Making an entire jetliner vanish? That's some next level Vegas magic show shit.
In Russia / Former USSR territory / parts of SE Asia? No one would even blink an eye at that stuff. I don't think that's why someone would do it (as pointed out, way, way easier ways to make money than doing that); but I doubt anyone would find out about the serial numbers and such on the parts. Most of that stuff is internally managed at an airline; OEMs / Regulators don't have visibility to that kind of data.
NYCmetsfan
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The ocean is big, metal sinks, there aren't a lot of Islands/not many people live in the southern indian ocean.
ErnieMcCracken
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LyleLanley
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I don't think it's that feasible that the plane could somehow make it's way to any of those countries with out anyone hearing about it.
In one piece; no. But in rotable / swappable parts, quite easily. That said; this falls under the "too much effort for the value" aspect.
IISANDERII
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I am subscribed to this theory now.
ThatGuyAgain
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Out of curiosity, I found Yubileyniy Airport near Baikonur Cosmodrome. Scanning around the airport, I can't find any place that looks anything like the images he posted with the building that was bulldozed. Can we put detective GAF on this?
ErnieMcCracken
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The GIS is not updated with the newest images. The first pic on this site shows where he's talking about. Makes no sense that you would taxi a plane all the way up to there without problem. 46.068819, 63.220041 is where's he's at.
Also driving a plane on that rocky ground is near impossible, also his pictures show no tracks on the ground.
Another thing bugs me on that theory how to deal with 300 passengers without involving a numerous team? by now anyone would have spill his beans
ThatGuyAgain
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Thanks for posting that. I agree... that is a long way to taxi a 777.
Looks like he's ready to go back on Don Lemon.
i don't think its a coincidence!
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