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You should try flying again sometime because you can definitely still check luggage after checking in online, and your luggage should get redirected automatically if you change flights.
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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 ended in the Southern Indian Ocean
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mightynine
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You would think someone would take responsibility or have issued demands by now.
TOP SHOTTA
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I can't imagine doing that, but I guess the odds are that you are right. It works out to 2.2% (5 people in 227 missed their flight) of the passengers didn't make it onto the plane. I bet that's actually pretty normal across the industry.
It'd be unfathomable for me to do myself, but the concept is plausible.
Oh, I think it was hijacked and crashed into the ocean somewhere. I don't think for a second it made it to whatever the intended destination/target was.
AstroNut325
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Anyone know if there were any high profile individuals on the plane? E.g. politicians, CEOs/executives, mob boss?
Hijacking gone wrong does seem like one of the few scenarios that fit..
I'm still far from convinced it's a terrorist act though.
footfunghi
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I had to check up now what online check-in actually means
But in the case of MH 370 they stated that the luggage had to be removed from the plane due to the passengers not showing up after everyone already boarded. That was my question if this is also commonplace.
TBH I just heard about plane disappearing, nothing else. So I needed to know something.
teruterubozu
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I had to check up now what online check-in actually means
But in the case of MH 370 they stated that the luggage had to be removed from the plane due to the passengers not showing up after everyone already boarded. That was my question if this is also commonplace.
It's very common if there were flight connections. People often miss the connections while the bags make it in. Lots of bags also simply get put on the wrong flight too.
Don't have the source but they have spoken to at least one who didn't travel as his meeting was changed.
Business flyers missing flights is incredibly common.
footfunghi
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footfunghi
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Wow, this must have been like a second birthday for that person. So much luck!
toxicgonzo
Taxes?! Isn't this the line for Metallica?
So the question comes up - if it was terrorism, why hasn't a group claimed responsibility? The best theory I heard so far was the terrorist group simply wanted to hijack the plane, not get everybody killed. Something went wrong during the hijacking and now the terrorist group is too embarrassed to claim responsibility.
I had to check up now what online check-in actually means
But in the case of MH 370 they stated that the luggage had to be removed from the plane due to the passengers not showing up after everyone already boarded. That was my question if this is also commonplace.
back in the late 90's when I was throwing bags in the US, the common practice was if the person did not board the airplane, the ground crew was instructed to remove any baggage belonging to said person. Sometimes this meant emptying the whole luggage compartment. It sucked.
Look at how long it took Osama to claim responsibility for 9/11? But yeah, the "not fatal" hijacking has historical been the MO of Iranian hijackers (with the exception of Islamic Jihad...).
Sectorseven
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Is it normal for a plane to go that long without tower communication, even before the last few minutes? I mean, there's no apparent negligence on the air traffic control side of this, is there?
Maninthemirror
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Iv not been following this and this turned out to be potentially terror related ?! Whats the best source that is covering this
You're going to hate this answer, but Drudge Report. It's like a compilation of every obscure fact and ongoing theory.
I think it's been mentioned before but planes will and can enter areas where they have no contact with ground control and their only contact is with other planes. Someone correct or amend if I am wrong, though.
If it was terrorism it doesn't necessarily have to be claimed by a group. What if it was a test run of something larger, like the Bojinka plot? Philippine Airline Flight 434 was the testing ground for that plot. See below:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_Airlines_Flight_434
There wasn't a claim of responsibility for that bomb. We only discovered later that it was a part of something much larger.
Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind behind the 1993 WTC bombing was the guy who planted the bomb. He used a fake Italian passport to board the plane.
Here's more info on the plot: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bojinka_plot
I have a gut feeling this isn't terrorism related.
Well, yeah. Above the ocean there's obviously no way to have contact with the ground. Radars don't have unlimited range. They figured something was wrong when the plane didn't make contact with its next ATC point in Vietnamese airspace as scheduled.
Insane Metal
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Have any of you guys seen this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_Boeing_707-323C_disappearance
Goddamn.
Goddamn.
pigeon interrupted
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IBM Exec: John something... I think.
Artist: missed the name
Pilot: missed the name was political activist. 18,000 hrs flight time. Full flying simulator in house--instructor of some sort.
lol. Quick mentions on BBC. Google might help.
Edited corrected version in #post
criesofthepast
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Is there a statistic of how many planes have gone missing and never been found? Commercial or otherwise?
Not knowing how many thousands of bodies, ships, planes, and various treasures are in its depths is scary to think about. Fuck space. I want more exploration to be done in the ocean.
phazedplasma
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No it would loose speed and stall out/plummet like the air france flight did.
Fuck space? Have you seen Cosmos?
The big risk from flying too high is stalling. Not enough air pressure to maintain lift and airspeed. I'm not sure why you think a plane would disintegrate if it flew too high.
Surely someone would have made contact if that was the case. 99.9 % likely it has crashed/blown up
He's probably thinking about cabin pressure.
Jet engines have an upper ceiling limit. Due to having blades inside the engine that spin to produce thrust, and thus they would not be capable of taking the plane above a certain altitude due to lack of air at higher altitudes.
Rocket engines don't depend on propellers / blades to produce thrust.
That sounds about right anyways -- I'm a software engineer and have no actual formal aerospace education
It's such a thing possible now a days?
Darren870
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And it still happens today. Its just as annoying for us passengers as we have to wait for you all
Its not uncommon, Id say one out of every 10 flights im on it happens.
You can bet if you hear someone's named called 5+ times at an airport that they missed the flight and there baggage now has to be removed.
Are you saying aliens did this?
No, the engines would oxygen starve before they could get high enough to cause that.
criesofthepast
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Yes I study physics and astronomy as my minor lol. Love space.
Not literally fuck space! But we need more exploration of our oceans.
Sectorseven
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What are pilots trained to do if terrorists are on board? Like, if they somehow manage to get into the cockpit and put a gun to the pilot's head, is he supposed to just ignore that, or what?
After giving this further thought it dawns on me that if the hijackers were successful and the plane were rerouted, it's quite possible that passengers wouldn't sit tight and wait to see what happens next. After 9/11, *nobody* assumes the intentions of a hijacker are only benign.
I agree.
What? I'm saying with all the technology available to Search and Rescue would be possible a plane disappear and never be found?
mercenar1e
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List of unrecovered flight recorders
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders
Happens all the time.
What happened to the World Trade Center data recorders? Obliterated? Otherwise wouldn't they just be in the rubble?
Edit: I guess so, considering this is what happened to the Pentagon data recorder.
Sectorseven
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United 93 was the only one that was recovered.
I never thought about the WTC flight recorders. I just always though they were destroyed by the confined explosion, fire and subsequent building collapse.
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