Man tortures and kills his 1 year old daughter because he enjoyed causing her pain.

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legit question, do you guys think these kind of person still deserve to live?
i mean we all know taxpayers are paying for the prisoner's sentence, why not just kill him?
to those saying human rights this and that, what about the victim's rights?

It costs more to kill someone due to the appeals process. You can't get rid of the appeals process without also increasing the number of innocent people that would be accidentally killed by the government for crimes they did not commit.

I think the person should be removed from society, either by life imprisonment or the death penalty. I prefer life imprisonment only because our justice system is not infallible.
 
It costs more to kill someone due to the appeals process. You can't get rid of the appeals process without also increasing the number of innocent people that would be accidentally killed by the government for crimes they did not commit.

I think the person should be removed from society, either by life imprisonment or the death penalty. I prefer life imprisonment only because our justice system is not infallible.

I don't like the idea of life imprisonment.

Only reason I say this is because life imprisonment seems like a waste. It's clear there's no attempt at/point in rehabilitation if they have life in prison, and if they're aware of their life imprisonment then their only options are die in prison or find some way to get out of prison. (likely illegally, and if they somehow manage to miraculously get out of prison, then they are clearly no longer removed from society. )

All a life sentence would really do is keep our conscience clear that the person is still alive, but their life is basically over anyway.
 
I don't like the idea of life imprisonment.

Only reason I say this is because life imprisonment seems like a waste. It's clear there's no attempt at/point in rehabilitation if they have life in prison, and if they're aware of their life imprisonment then their only options are die in prison or find some way to get out of prison. (likely illegally, and if they somehow manage to miraculously get out of prison, then they are clearly no longer removed from society. )

All a life sentence would really do is keep our conscience clear that the person is still alive, but their life is basically over anyway.

So you advocate what exactly instead? Killing everyone who would otherwise be sentenced for life?
 
These threads are terrible because they elicit such demoralizing responses from the community.

I know, or hope, most of it is hyperbole, but damn yall.
 
I don't like the idea of life imprisonment.

Only reason I say this is because life imprisonment seems like a waste. It's clear there's no attempt at/point in rehabilitation if they have life in prison, and if they're aware of their life imprisonment then their only options are die in prison or find some way to get out of prison. (likely illegally, and if they somehow manage to miraculously get out of prison, then they are clearly no longer removed from society. )

All a life sentence would really do is keep our conscience clear that the person is still alive, but their life is basically over anyway.

What would you suggest? The flawed-ass death penalty? Life in prison is cheaper and works.
 
I don't like the idea of life imprisonment.

Only reason I say this is because life imprisonment seems like a waste. It's clear there's no attempt at/point in rehabilitation if they have life in prison, and if they're aware of their life imprisonment then their only options are die in prison or find some way to get out of prison. (likely illegally, and if they somehow manage to miraculously get out of prison, then they are clearly no longer removed from society. )

All a life sentence would really do is keep our conscience clear that the person is still alive, but their life is basically over anyway.

I'm extremely skeptical that people like this can be rehabilitated.
 
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