Crazymoogle
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Damn you Lain, just when I thought I had read as much stuff as you something new comes up! (buys on Viz app immediately)
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Damn you Lain, just when I thought I had read as much stuff as you something new comes up! (buys on Viz app immediately)
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I didn't have a problem with Negima or even Love Hina, but those actually had a plot (whether they were any good or not) and weren't even close to as over the top as TLR (original) was, and was leagues away from what TLRD apparently is like.
TLR sadly has more of a plot then Love Hina. And you should have had a problem with everything in Negima, fan-service or not.
With that said, those aren't borderline-H series. There is a reason for that tag. But typically, series are usually adult related like Velvet Kiss, Aunt Tits, Nozoki Ana, etc... TLRD is a bit of an odd ball being a shounen that pushes the limit like the seinen series. If you read Nozoki Ana, which I'm sure you won't (nor should you cause it is shit), I don't think you'd have an issue with the content. That's even with NA having sex-scenes regularly and being more explicit. TLRD on the other hand, puts HS girls into the spotlight. That's not condemnable to start, as a series like Nana to Kaoru pulls it off well. But TLRD pulls the kind of stuff you saw in the latest chapter, while the other series don't.
So I would say you'd have less of an issue with the seinen, even Nana to Kaoru, then TLDR. Why, even when those series are filled with smut? Probably cause TLRD just pushes its own weird limits. You know, tentacle monsters, child turning stuff, body swapping devices, etc... It's more of a fucked up type of smut then the others. Best answer I can give.
I just find it funny. 
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The difference is, when I said "TLR has no story," I meant it literally. TLR certainly does not have more of a plot than Love Hina. You not liking the story isn't the same thing as "there is no story." TLR on the other hand has no story at all or at best a vague outline of a frame story. If they added one in Darkness, then that's new; and I'm not going to read it to find out, but I have yet to see anyone comment on anything but the number of breasts per chapter.TLR sadly has more of a plot then Love Hina. And you should have had a problem with everything in Negima, fan-service or not.
With that said, those aren't borderline-H series. There is a reason for that tag. But typically, series are usually adult related like Velvet Kiss, Aunt Tits, Nozoki Ana, etc... TLRD is a bit of an odd ball being a shounen that pushes the limit like the seinen series. If you read Nozoki Ana, which I'm sure you won't (nor should you cause it is shit), I don't think you'd have an issue with the content. That's even with NA having sex-scenes regularly and being more explicit. TLRD on the other hand, puts HS girls into the spotlight. That's not condemnable to start, as a series like Nana to Kaoru pulls it off well. But TLRD pulls the kind of stuff you saw in the latest chapter, while the other series don't.
So I would say you'd have less of an issue with the seinen, even Nana to Kaoru, then TLDR. Why, even when those series are filled with smut? Probably cause TLRD just pushes its own weird limits. You know, tentacle monsters, child turning stuff, body swapping devices, etc... It's more of a fucked up type of smut then the others. Best answer I can give.
I just find it funny.
Crash Station
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Hayate no Gotoku vol 31
Whoa, progress with Wataru's (previous) love of Isumi. Excellent.
Whoa, progress with Wataru's (previous) love of Isumi. Excellent.
I exaggerate. Plus, I've gone on record many times here that I like Love Hina. But one is a love comedy and the other is mostly gag. TLR also has a decently involved back-story throughout the characters. But if you want the equivalent of TLR plot-wise without the fan-service, then that's Onidere. Maybe even Hayate or in a messed up way, Ouran Host Club. Those series go more of an episodic route spinning their setups, delinquent relationships, Hayate's whole deal, and gender bending Haruhi. They don't stray much from those setups and the majority of the manga materials just rehash. You get actual plot development very sparingly, much like TLR. Love Hina and Negima are much more progressive series. The fan-service equivalents there would be I's and Ichigo 100%.
retcon:
Damn you and your retcon. I addressed the thinness of TLR's plot above. And TLRD is, believe it or not, heavier in plot then TLR. It centers mostly around Yami's struggle with her assassin past and an old enemy in the shadows. We also have her somewhat experimental assassin sister involved along with her
"mother."
retcon2:
FYI, it's called To Love-Ru "Darkness" since Yami is the Golden Darkness and the plot surrounds that. There were a few plot heavy chapters thus far.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
You know... I have finally read *some* To Love Ru Darkness. Not reading the predecessor so can't really comment on it but I imagine it's all about the same.
My impression was it has gone way beyond "skirting the limit" of Shounen anymore. I have never seen a shounen that is so flagrant in displaying exposed ass or breast or skin like it. I am actually rather amazed it is still considered Shounen.
Its... how should I say it... "hentai-ness", is way above stuff like Love Hina and the like.
My impression was it has gone way beyond "skirting the limit" of Shounen anymore. I have never seen a shounen that is so flagrant in displaying exposed ass or breast or skin like it. I am actually rather amazed it is still considered Shounen.
Its... how should I say it... "hentai-ness", is way above stuff like Love Hina and the like.
Yumeiro Choice is even more H than TLRD and I think it was also serialized in a shonen magazine
Yea, shounen and seinen aren't full-proof labels for generalizing manga since they are demographics. And even then, the labels can seem off since they are often magazine attached. Series just usually aren't labeled shounen and have this level of fan-service. But they do exist.
That's enough of this topic for one day.
"God's Beard!"
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Fanservice: ruining comics for 60 years.
But it's supposed to service the fans!
Crash Station
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There's one scene where you see full vag in the reflection of Rito's eye, but you have to look for it. I'm still amazed Yabuki was able to sneak that in without anyone at Shueisha either noticing or caring.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
That's just it. Everybody keep saying "borderline" but like I said it has gone way up and beyond any kind of border, hahaha.
But by golly so very often it is so goddamn hilarious. Take Cage of Eden, for instance. The various ways the author tried to insert panty/bra/ass-shots regardless of the dinosaurs eating people around is amazing.
It's a successful series so I imagine it's more to the not caring side.
It's above SKET Dance and Medaka Box? Hell yes!
mysticwhip
Banned
lol, people are arguing over tu love ru?
wuuut?
wuuut?
If there is no fucking then it's borderline.
I hope you like it, I know I've been liking it a lot for its dark tone and the way certain themes and situations are handled.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Hahaha I guess so.
But I personally think stuff like TLR Darkness is even more crass than stuff like smut mangas. At least in the latter sex is more often than not treated as a component that can drive the story forward instead of just a device to tease by showing ass or breast for no good reason.
Sometimes delivering fanservice becomes an art unto itself
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
TLR was much tamer. Darkness upped that by an order of magnitude.
Crash Station
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Hayate no Gotoku 338-348
Fumi is seriously an amazing character. She needs a bigger role.
Fumi is seriously an amazing character. She needs a bigger role.
Glass Rebel
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Nah. JoJo is fantastic, especially part 2, but Sanctuary is on another level of manliness. It hit home much harder than JoJo ever could. All kinds of dusts were flying into my eyes.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I edited that post like 3 minutes after I made it when I decided to write a more coherent reply rather than something dismissive. You musta had the screen open for a long time to get stealth retconned like that
Maybe he can trip in just the right way and it will accidentally turn the manga from borderline to full porn.
"God's Beard!"
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I remember how hard I had to work a couple years ago to get people to read Jojo's and Sanctuary
My dreams came true
TT_TT
Glass Rebel
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I picked up Sanctuary the moment I found out it was written by Buronson. It's kind of a no-brainer.
Crash Station
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Hayate no Gotoku
All caught up. Not much to say other than fun things are happening.
All caught up. Not much to say other than fun things are happening.
Crash Station
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DCD
Interesting premise. It's basically about 9 teenagers with super powers that had their own TV show 7 years prior to the beginning of the story, before the producer got murdered. Now some dude is going around murdering them. Main character can link all of his senses to anyone nearby which helps a lot in fights.
Cool stuff so far.
And with that, I am officially out of manga backlog...
...Guess I'll go watch anime or play games or something.
Interesting premise. It's basically about 9 teenagers with super powers that had their own TV show 7 years prior to the beginning of the story, before the producer got murdered. Now some dude is going around murdering them. Main character can link all of his senses to anyone nearby which helps a lot in fights.
Cool stuff so far.
And with that, I am officially out of manga backlog...
...Guess I'll go watch anime or play games or something.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Does the fulfillment of your lifelong dream mean you will now stop highlighting "Sanctuary" and then lying and pretending the forum just magically knows how super awesome Sanctuary is and highlighted the title itself?
"God's Beard!"
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Only if you permanently change your avatar to red grimace.
mysticwhip
Banned
Anybody remember the name of this korean manga about some angels or something trying to stop the most unhappy kid's wish to end earth from coming true. The panels were set up really weird, the art was nice, all digital and I believe it was apart of some 'web toon' website.
It was pretty interesting and I was caught up with all the chapters and I forgot the name
It was pretty interesting and I was caught up with all the chapters and I forgot the name
"God's Beard!"
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A Huge Battleship
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Nowhere Boy aka the best manhwa ever.Anybody remember the name of this korean manga about some angels or something trying to stop the most unhappy kid's wish to end earth from coming true. The panels were set up really weird, the art was nice, all digital and I believe it was apart of some 'web toon' website.
It was pretty interesting and I was caught up with all the chapters and I forgot the name
Dedication Through Light
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I think that was what or at least how WSJ and Toei were trying to position it as, unfortunately, I think anime wise its popular but manga wise, I guess its didnt catch on as they hoped.
Infinite Justice
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Because Jump themselves was hyping the hell out of it as the next big thing (and i guess even moreso since 2 of the "Big Three" will be ending soon). But it just hasn't caught fire imo.
I don't remember that...
You need to change your definition of borderline-H.
Don't mess with smut.
A lot of fun and expected coming from the same author as Sora no Otoshimono.
I enjoy your posts so much that I F5 until they present themselves.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
"Fanservice" implies it's like a little something extra, like, "hey here's some scantily clad women on top of the plot!" TLRD is just nothing but a series of pictures of girls not wearing clothes. The biggest problem for me is that it's not funny or endearing at all (note: I haven't read TLRD, but I read enough to TLR to know exactly what both series are like.)
Actually TLRD is significantly different (in some ways) then TLR, but I don't think that would change your mind.
Any, it's still better than Gou-dere!
Gou-Dere is funny, TLRD is garbage.
mysticwhip
Banned
thanks man.
You shut your mouth.
Magico
I feel like the word "ritual" is being thrown around a bit too loosely lately in this manga. It's basically any series of actions with a goal, now. There's nothing about getting stamps, and unlocking an item with them, that is remotely similar to what rituals were supposed to be.
Dunno, I really liked the whole ritual system and, well, yeah. Pumpkin sauce.
Pretty badass moment with Shion though.
I feel like the word "ritual" is being thrown around a bit too loosely lately in this manga. It's basically any series of actions with a goal, now. There's nothing about getting stamps, and unlocking an item with them, that is remotely similar to what rituals were supposed to be.
Dunno, I really liked the whole ritual system and, well, yeah. Pumpkin sauce.
Pretty badass moment with Shion though.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
You're all just trying to get DTL to defend TLRD.
Crash Station
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Akame ga Kill
Yay, first new chapter in almost a year.
Ogre dude was a good villain. I imagine most will be complete monsters, so we should be seeing a lot.
Yay, first new chapter in almost a year.
Ogre dude was a good villain. I imagine most will be complete monsters, so we should be seeing a lot.
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