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March Wrasslin |OT| Road To WrassleMania
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bean breath
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I love how Striker is trying so hard to hold back laughing because he knows its true.
Seems about right from what I remember. There were a few good matches in there, but the stuff that was bad...it was AWFUL.
Really, it's not that atypical of some of the PPVs they've done. But Wrestlemania is supposed to be one of those annual "momentous" events, and XXVII didn't really give off that feel after watching it.
4 hour RAW is a pretty good description.
Oh I think I said as much earlier.
The first 4-5 minutes felt like a really great episode of Raw. Just not like the biggest show of the year.
Cole/King pretty much killed my interest. And as much as the WWE tries to sell it, Triple H/Taker isn't the redeemer.
noclevername620
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It was a good show tonight. The Dragon Gate USA portion was one great match after another. Aside from a few problems with the top rope being loose on one side, everything went well. Uhaa Nation might have got injured while doing a dive because that top rope messed him up and he hit the floor hard...no update on that. The mystery luchadore that fought Yoshino tonight was Samurai Del Sol....and he was awesome. Kept with with Yoshino every step of the way.
Oh and the CZW portion of the show.....well, there were light tubes....
Must see matches:
Low Ki vs Bobby Fish
Masato Yoshino vs Samurai Del Sol
PAC vs AR Fox
Oh and the CZW portion of the show.....well, there were light tubes....
Must see matches:
Low Ki vs Bobby Fish
Masato Yoshino vs Samurai Del Sol
PAC vs AR Fox
Arrowgigantic
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Professor Beef
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I wonder if they dunked Rey through a hoop after that pic.
ViewtifulJC
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I'm watchin' some 2004 RAW/Smackdown. The biggest difference between that and today is just...they have so much more talent back then. There's actual tag teams, with title defenses and junk(Dudleyz, Hardy Boys, La Resistance, etc). There's like...actually good female wrestlers like Trish, Lita, Victoria, and Mickie James. Eric Bischoff/Paul Heyman >>> Johnny/Teddy Long as General Manager characters. HHH as asshole champ you want Chris Benoit to beat. Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho, Christain, Eddie Guerrero(before he died), Kurt Angle(before he went nuts), Brock Lesnar(before he leaves!) Rey Mysterio(before the burritos), Edge, RVD, Booker T(before SHUCKY DUCKY QUACK QUACK), The Hurricane, the whole 9 nine yards. And this is with the whole Smackdown vs Raw thing, btw. They had a big enough roster of talent that they could put on two good wrestling shows a week, with their own cast of characters, and storylines, and championships to feud over. Nowadays it's like the whole cast of Smackdown shows up on RAW whenever they need them, so Smackdown feels like filler and it's painfully obvious how small the talent pool is at the WWE right now.
That, and JR on the mic. He's really the best. He makes even the dumbest shit sound amazing, and because he cares so much, I care as well.
And the crowds are just so HOT back then, even in the post-Attitude Era. They get crazy when Eddie Guerrero mounts a bloody comeback against Angle. They really get into all of Thugonomics John Cena's shtick. They boo the FUCK out of HHH when he drones on about being the best WHC in history and shit. The audience becomes a part of the show, they bring everything to another level, along with the huge talent pool and good commentary, and it all combines into this pretty damn engaging soap opera of sweaty guys(and girls!) fighting each other.
That, and JR on the mic. He's really the best. He makes even the dumbest shit sound amazing, and because he cares so much, I care as well.
And the crowds are just so HOT back then, even in the post-Attitude Era. They get crazy when Eddie Guerrero mounts a bloody comeback against Angle. They really get into all of Thugonomics John Cena's shtick. They boo the FUCK out of HHH when he drones on about being the best WHC in history and shit. The audience becomes a part of the show, they bring everything to another level, along with the huge talent pool and good commentary, and it all combines into this pretty damn engaging soap opera of sweaty guys(and girls!) fighting each other.
The primary problem with RAW in that 2003-2004 time was Triple H running the show. It got really stale eventually. Smackdown was where the action was, and it was a great time. Probably the best tenure of wrestling/stories we've had since. Eight years ago.
On the Diva subject, it's not like the WWE hadn't had talented female wrestlers. Beth Phoenix, Gail Kim, Mickie James, and Natalya all have wrestled in a WWE ring in the past few years. It's the fact they do nothing but give dumb, random pushes to Kelly Kelly and had previously to Alicia Fox and Eve. Not that Eve is bad, she's just a marginal talent compared to those others. Even Melina in her own right was decent, and had good matches on Superstars with Gail Kim while on RAW we had roll up central with Kelly week in and week out.
On the Diva subject, it's not like the WWE hadn't had talented female wrestlers. Beth Phoenix, Gail Kim, Mickie James, and Natalya all have wrestled in a WWE ring in the past few years. It's the fact they do nothing but give dumb, random pushes to Kelly Kelly and had previously to Alicia Fox and Eve. Not that Eve is bad, she's just a marginal talent compared to those others. Even Melina in her own right was decent, and had good matches on Superstars with Gail Kim while on RAW we had roll up central with Kelly week in and week out.
ViewtifulJC
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The best parts about RAW right now, in 2004 is definitely this Jericho-Christain-Trish storyline. This shit had me turning in every week to see what would happen next. I think this was a really fun program, that gave these three a forward momentum for several months since it started back in late 2003.
There's also this Foley-Orton thing. Randy Orton 2004 kinda sucks, I'll be honest. He's green as fuck on the mic, and his in-ring work just isn't there yet, but he's getting a big push anyway because of his legacy and because he's part of Evolution. He's lucky he's feuding with Foley, who knows how to bring good ring psychology out of anybody, there's two great PPV matches with them coming up, the Rock/Sock Connection vs Orton/Batista, and that Hardcore brawl at Backlash.
There's also this Foley-Orton thing. Randy Orton 2004 kinda sucks, I'll be honest. He's green as fuck on the mic, and his in-ring work just isn't there yet, but he's getting a big push anyway because of his legacy and because he's part of Evolution. He's lucky he's feuding with Foley, who knows how to bring good ring psychology out of anybody, there's two great PPV matches with them coming up, the Rock/Sock Connection vs Orton/Batista, and that Hardcore brawl at Backlash.
It simply baffles me that Kelly Kelly still doesn't know how to run the ropes properly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8Mq3yRLRD4#t=1m30s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8Mq3yRLRD4#t=1m30s
Is this the part where it's time to point out how sick and tired everyone was of Cena's act...
FIVE YEARS AGO? Holy shit.
ViewtifulJC
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Was there some kind of language rules back in the wild west days of NeoGaf, what is with all the asterisks?
Was ***** ****** at that WM and I forgot?
ViewtifulJC
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That camera man is really getting his money's worth in that first shot
How did the crowd react to Samuray? I feel like some people might have been disappointed since he's been in some CZW shows and plenty of other shows He's not exactly some unknown rising star like the press release made it out to be.
But regardless, Samuray is fucking awesome. Here's a few matches of his and a highlight vid with crappy music
Highlight vid
Samuray vs Arik Cannon
Samuray vs Tim Donst
Samuray vs El Generico
2001-2004 smackdown had better quality matches/storylines than the attitude era.
the smackdown six
angle-lesner putting on 5 star matches on tv for free
eddie, benoit, rhyno, cena, mysterio, undertaker in the upper midcard switching between US title/feud/main event pushes
vince was pretty much smackdown exclusive with feuds with hogan
JBL playing the HHH role better than HHH
tag teams every where
cruiser weight division
then on raw you had the hhh show and promoted as the "flagship" wwe show. And as soon as someone gains some momentum on smackdown, drag him to raw and feed him to evolution
fuck this company
He won over the crowd in the end and
even won the match which tells me Gabe has high hopes for him.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Four eyes! What a NEEEEEERD
Fucking awesome. I hope Gabe teams him up with Sami Callihan since theyve tagged before and are incredible together
Yeah, the DGUSA/CZW show was tons of fun. I posted my thoughts in the meetup thread, so I'll just quote the pertinent bits here:
He's in DGUSA.
He's in DGUSA.
NihonTiger90
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So it is entirely possible I may not be able to go to the Chikara/ROH double show at the end of next month as a result of my new work schedule. This is perhaps disappointing.
Mr. Enigma
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Edge had to have just cut his hair off today. There were pictures of him in Miami earlier this week with his hair still long.
mightynine
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RE: Punk Fan Engagement video, I like to think he was reacting to the extremely poor choice of music for that moment playing over the PA.
Keyser Soze
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I thought it was pretty funny. Seemed like an act to me, but what do I know.
Speaking of Punk, dude has an awesome tourbus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU6IOm0_vTY
Which apparently Kofi gets to crash in
bean breath
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Wait, what was that song playing at the end? Is there another official Wrestlemania 28 song that I don't know about?
sf2fanatic
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Isn't that the other song by Flo Rida "Wild Ones"
bean breath
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Thanks. Is that one tied to a specific wrassler? The way I figure it:
Flo Rida - Good Feeling = The Rock
MGK - Invincible = John Cena
Metallica - Memory Remains = Undertaker v. Triple H
Madonna - Girl Gone Wild = Divas Tag Match
Flo Rida - Wild Ones = Six Man Tag Match??
Professor Beef
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Yeah right. Next you're going to tell me that "Rellik" is "killer" backwards.
shitty rapper as shitty as the state
Fixed it for you.
Look at that nerd. He doesn't have long hair. Probably can't even spear.
Fuck, had me in stitches with that one
Yep, might come off jerky but seemed to find his way of being entertained with the;
Brilliant use of D.Brine character. Made the video all that much better
noclevername620
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I love you, Wrasslegaf.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Goddamn, CM Punk's tour bus is nicer than my house. D:
You know what one of the worst parts of the Benoit shunning on WWE programming is, I never get to hear his theme song anymore: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SVOUXSTQak
So good. Might be one of the best theme songs from the 00's
So good. Might be one of the best theme songs from the 00's
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
HERE COMES CHRIS BENOIT
AND HE'S REALLY MAD
HERE COMES CHRIS BENOIT
AND HE'S REALLY ANGRY
Speaking of good theme songs. Can't wait for the HOF ceremony so they can play: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq_GDQj53IQ
El Pescado
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Jim Johnson recently released his own version of this theme on iTunes. :/
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