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March Wrasslin' |OT| The NXT Era Has ArRIVED

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Sblargh

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Shitty day today. My cat (or former cat) who stayed with my ex-girlfriend after we split up just went missing.

Raw really needs to make me happy tonight, damn it!
 
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bean breath

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Perspicacity said:
Agreed. Though I like him as an interviewer and think he would be a great wrestling broadcaster.
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I forgot I wanted to mention this but Colt Cabana is a complete meat head. I was really taken aback at just how dumb this guy is.

Granted, I'm not expecting a professional wrestler to be a Rhodes Scholar (HEEYYOO) but the last two episodes I listened to (Sonjay Dutt, EC3) just really drove the point home. Dutt and EC3 are pretty bright guys which just made Cabana come off even more brain dead.

His episode with Dutt about his trip to India is just cringe-worthy. Here's a guy who is well-traveled, grew up in a major metropolitan area, and got into college (did Cabana finish?) which would presume one to think he's cracked open a book or two and maybe written a few pages in his life. Yet you listen to him and he sounds like the most backward-ass, imbred, mentally challenged imbecile. I can't remember any specifics because it was a while ago but man, am I alone here?

It lead me to question how a complete moron like him mustered the brain power to not only have the idea for the podcast but even the technical ability to produce it. I'm convinced that there's someone else pulling the strings.
 
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Vylash

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Sblargh said:
Shitty day today. My cat (or former cat) who stayed with my ex-girlfriend after we split up just went missing.

Raw really needs to make me happy tonight, damn it!
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That sucks, hope you find your cat

(looking for hope in Raw is always a mistake)
 
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strobogo

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Bootaaay said:
Alright then, what about most underrated wrestlers? Terry Taylor comes to mind. Also, Akira Taue is super overlooked, considering the role he had in 90's All Japan. In more recent years, Tomoaki Honma. Coming from an indie/deathmatch background and having alleged yakuza connections have kept him from achieving any major success, even though the fans connect with him well.

Oh, and Mr. Wrestling II. Just because I never see people talking about Mr. Wrestling II and he was freaking awesome.
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The Destroyer, because not enough people have gone out of their way to watch 70s AJPW. Destroyer is THE BEST. Terry Taylor is definitely underrated. Super solid guy in the ring.

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I forgot I wanted to mention this but Colt Cabana is a complete meat head. I was really taken aback at just how dumb this guy is.

Granted, I'm not expecting a professional wrestler to be a Rhodes Scholar (HEEYYOO) but the last two episodes I listened to (Sonjay Dutt, EC3) just really drove the point home. Dutt and EC3 are pretty bright guys which just made Cabana come off even more brain dead.

His episode with Dutt about his trip to India is just cringe-worthy. Here's a guy who is well-traveled, grew up in a major metropolitan area, and got into college (did Cabana finish?) which would presume one to think he's cracked open a book or two and maybe written a few pages in his life. Yet you listen to him and he sounds like the most backward-ass, imbred, mentally challenged imbecile. I can't remember any specifics because it was a while ago but man, am I alone here?

It lead me to question how a complete moron like him mustered the brain power to not only have the idea for the podcast but even the technical ability to produce it. I'm convinced that there's someone else pulling the strings.
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I actually agree with you on this. Colt is basically Billy Madison.
 
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strobogo said:
These overrated lists are weird because the majority of the guys listed aren't even really considered great wrestlers. Sgt. Slaughter is overrated? By who?
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All lists are pretty silly in the end. Might as well get WWE.com's out to laugh at.

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Dx HHH as a face was popular. As much as Y2J if not more? Absolutely.
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DX as a whole in that time were huge. Chyna was getting much of a reaction as the guys. And the Outlaws were probably the most over after Rock and Austin.
 
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Vylash

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If we're talking about underrated wrestlers I'd put Finlay at thew top of my list no doubt, I also think Heath Slater is very good and doesn't get nearly enough recognition
 
UberTag

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Oooh... Beard and Bastard are wrestling again tonight? Sweet!
Can't wait for that post-Mania tag title chase for them.
 
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British Monsoon

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I actually saw someone say Jumbo was the most overrated wrestler ever on another board. Tried to formulate a reply, but gave up in the end because I just couldn't comprehend how anyone could come to that conclusion.
 
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strobogo

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Bootaaay said:
I actually saw someone say Jumbo was the most overrated wrestler ever on another board. Tried to formulate a reply, but gave up in the end because I just couldn't comprehend how anyone could come to that conclusion.
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Data West

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Bootaaay said:
I actually saw someone say Jumbo was the most overrated wrestler ever on another board. Tried to formulate a reply, but gave up in the end because I just couldn't comprehend how anyone could come to that conclusion.
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People want to be noticed. Like that True Detectives OT thread
 
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Sheroking

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Striker said:
Tag teaming? Joke post? If you want to throw in gimmick matches, you can look at his cage match with Owen Hart at SummerSlam '94 if you want. Table matches weren't a big deal then, nor were hardcore matches at the time. Hell in a Cell didn't arrive in late '97. And, for a good reason, ladder matches weren't overdone or used for people not necessarily required for it (hello, Kevin Nash vs. Triple H in 2011).
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As much work was done with the Hart Foundation, I could not tell give you a match to put on a best of DVD for Bret that was a tag match. I've seen the whole catalog from that era (at least the TV stuff) and I just genuinely could not do it.

I do see your point about gimmick matches not really being the biggest thing in WWE at the time, but it still seems like Bret wrestled a lot of wonderful vanilla matches and didn't exactly break the mold ala Shawn Micheals.

People seem to knock Bret for his promo ability when in fact it really was just hidden by the fact WWE, in general, lacks interesting or entertaining faces for the most part. For a generic cookie cutter, he did his job and did it really well. A much bigger star than what HBK ever was in the 90's. Look at Shawn's work promo-wise as a babyface. What did he do? His best work was as a classic dickhead heel. Only guys off hand who did great work as a babyface as well as heel was The Rock, Steve Austin, Chris Jericho, and Kurt Angle. May add Eddie Guerrero but that wasn't a lengthy time for him, unfortunately. Small list.
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I mean, Bret Hart could barely spit out a sentence. It's not just that he wasn't cutting good promos, he could not talk. This is something even he admits to. He basically bellowed poorly constructed sentences into a mic his entire career.

I'm not asking for him to be The Rock, but at least a couple grades better than Sid Eudy.
 
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Shellshock929

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So we're going to get used to Del Rio coming out with his old music, but his new one being his victory music. Honestly, it's not a bad idea. I remember when Mick Foley had this during the early Mankind days.
 
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slit

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Fans at TNA Lockdown last night.

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What the hell are they doing?

I think the end is nigh for TNA. 900 tickets sold and an almost completely empty arena.
 
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Dr Duncan Steel

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The amount of times Bryan has been involved with Orton and Batista; he's so in.

Unless Big Show double crosses him after Batista and Orton fight each other for some reason.
 
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strobogo

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Sheroking said:
As much work was done with the Hart Foundation, I could not tell give you a match to put on a best of DVD for Bret that was a tag match. I've seen the whole catalog from that era (at least the TV stuff) and I just genuinely could not do it.

I do see your point about gimmick matches not really being the biggest thing in WWE at the time, but it still seems like Bret wrestled a lot of wonderful vanilla matches and didn't exactly break the mold ala Shawn Micheals.



I mean, Bret Hart could barely spit out a sentence. It's not just that he wasn't cutting good promos, he could not talk. This is something even he admits to. He basically bellowed poorly constructed sentences into a mic his entire career.

I'm not asking for him to be The Rock, but at least a couple grades better than Sid Eudy.
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Bret is an underrated promo guy. I think he was decent enough as part of the Hart Foundation, but really didn't come into his own until the USA vs Canada angle. I really, really liked his promo work in WCW. Much more than his booking or in ring work.
 
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