Hey Bryan Alvarez, what do you think about the WrestleMania 33 card?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6coyc4x3Ow
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March Wrasslin' |OT2| The Rollercoaster to WrestleMania XXXIII!
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The Strokes
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Just watch how much time they give Pitbull to sing whatever he sings bumping at least one match to the pre-show.
Also with him having fucked up knees and back his posture would be messed up. He does seem to lurch forward a lil, which would mean his gut looks bigger then it is.
excelsiorlef
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Alvarez has an absurd definition of thrown together...
Officially announced closer to Mania doesn't = thrown together lol...
Calling Sasha vs Bayley vs Charlotte vs Nia thrown together is absurd... we can argue on the quality of the build but that shit has been front and centre for months...
Concerts happen almost every Mania... they also serve as, as previously mentioned, designated bathroom breaks.
The Strokes
Banned
The ROH Supercard will have a good flippy shit match that's gonna be amazing, but the revpro card (which I don't think I see there) is the best for me: Zabre Jr vs Penta, Rico vs Scurll and Fenix vs Ospreay look too good to miss.
BewareTheBatsie
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He said that? Alvarez your own buddy Meltzer IIRC leaked that fatal four way women's happening months ago. It wasn't thrown together.
half a moon
Banned
Is Smackdown on usa?
The Strokes
Banned
Sometimes they go to the uk
excelsiorlef
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He's arguing from a on TV only perspective...
half a moon
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excelsiorlef
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Disagree but to each their own...
There is not a match on that card that I would call bad...
The Strokes
Banned
Yeah but you're saying they care, when clearly having a mini concert on the main show instead of giving that spotlight to the performers is an indication of the opposite.
And yes, they've done this in the past, because even back then they didn't care.
HazySaiyan
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He means kayfabe
SomewhatGroovy
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Use a different browser. Was giving me problems until I did just that.
excelsiorlef
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I don't think they do or don't care....
I just don't think you're on the pre-show means they automatically don't care.
Dean Ambrose vs. Baron Corbin sounds so bad,
So does AJ vs Shane
And In world where wk 11 just happen a few months this is a bad card.
FallingEdge
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I mean WK11 had a pretty average midcard including putting over a guy who is bland and boring as fuck just because he has the right last name, a heatless ROH title match, a GOD match before they got good (that included YTR for no fucking reason other than he stole the belts????) and a meaningless "everybody on the card" gauntlet tag whose result was reversed the very next day.
excelsiorlef
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BewareTheBatsie
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The cup they'd give her to piss in would melt within a second.
slightconfuse
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WrestleMania isn't about work rate it's about "creating moments" that they can spam in video packages forever
More roids then that! I'm talking Rich Piana type shit.
Only thing I am actually not watching of Mania is the Pitbull crap.
But it also feature 4 matches that will probably be better than anything at WM.
Ofc but that doesn't mean it had its weak spots
The problem with Wrestlemania isn't the matches. It's the booking. Bray vs Randy has had a great build but Randy going over would ruin the whole thing. Shane vs AJ could be a fun match but Shane winning would be insane. WM 32 was rotten with stuff like this.
They should add the "Loser has to take his shirt off in public" stipulation.
excelsiorlef
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Doesn't make Mania bad...
SallyIsNow
Banned
This Mania is fucking shit. A fucking match for a low tier belt at WK blows everything at Mania the fuck out.
If i didn't​ get WM 33 for free o doubt I would watch it, there nothing there for me.
Every show does have them but Wk11 something were I was actively hype for weeks in advance, I can't say the same for Wm 3e
it depends on the heat.
Like when I was younger I wanted to see the Brock vs Angle matchup at mania but I demanded that HHH fucking lose the belt at 20.
why even separate the pre-show and the main card these days?
but putting something on the pre-show, all you're saying is "you don't need to watch these matches". i'm watching mania with some friends and even they said fuck the pre show. the stadium itself is going to be empty for the pre-show. i don't get it.
but putting something on the pre-show, all you're saying is "you don't need to watch these matches". i'm watching mania with some friends and even they said fuck the pre show. the stadium itself is going to be empty for the pre-show. i don't get it.
wild wild rice
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If WWE sends me a free month that'll be my WrestleMania moment.
Yeah they're better off just saying WM is a seven hour show with the first two hours free.
The Strokes
Banned
I think the sole fact of being relegated to the pre-show means you're not that important on the eyes of the company.
And these are title matches on there, which, as I said, explains a lot about how wwe feels what the titles mean these days.
Into the Light
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Pit Bull is wack, and his own community of people laugh at him. (trust me, I have seen it with my own eyes.) they have 0 respect for him. He is a musical hack.
BewareTheBatsie
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The pre show is basically just something to hook in people to subscribe to the network. It's free to watch on YouTube and they hammer in the 'sign up for your free account' thing about a 100 times during it.
They use the preshow as a tool to measure youtube and facebook intrest.
Pre-Show used to be able to be watched for free on Youtube or the WWE site (or the channel the PPV was on) ...
Not sure how that is now.
If I gave you a plate full of shit for free would you eat it? If you seriously think there's nothing there for you don't watch it, I doubt your life is so empty you're willing to watch something you'll 100% hate just because you got it for free
Unless you want to watch it just to complain, of course.
excelsiorlef
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Dude the card this year is freaking stacked.... Like utterly stacked... Like there's no throwaway match ala New Day vs League of Nations or throw away pre show matches like the 10 woman tag match or the Dudleys vs the Usos.... This is a stacked card...
And with two brands yeah some titles are going to fall to the Pre-Show. I mean unless you think Rollins/HHH, Taker/Reigns, Shane/AJ or Miz&Mayse/Nikki&Cena should be on the pre show (because those are your only non title matches on the show other than the Battle Royal)
8 out of 9 titles are on the line at Mania currently
half a moon
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Oh nice.
The part that chaps my chimichanga is that we get ads even during "PPVs" which is the one curse of the WWE network
yeah exactly! it's a much better sell that way. "pre-show" is such a garbage label for a 2 hour show with legitimately built matches. sunday night heat it ain't.
All natural.