March Wrasslin Thread: Road to WrestleMania

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The grand-daddy of them all is a short 5 weeks away, and I am hoping no one takes issue with extending the thread for that extra week as we get set for the 25th anniversary.

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The 25th Anniversary of the biggest show in the industry. Let's hope for the best.

Right now, we can be certain of 3 things leading up to Mania.
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Randy Orton won the Royal Rumble which gives him the right to challenge either the World Heavyweight Champion or WWE Champion at Wrestlemania.

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At No Way Out, Triple H won his 13th World Title. Almost guaranteeing him a spot in the main event.

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On the same night as using the World Heavyweight Title, Edge captures the WWE title in a Raw Elimination Chamber match. Thus allowing him to go on to the main event of Wrestlemania 25.

Tomorrow night on Raw, HBK will take on Koslove to see who will have the honor of fighting the Dead Man at Wrestlemania 25.

And CM Punk became the first man to qualify for the Money in the Bank match.
 
Maybe TNA should move to TNT and rename their company that, standing for Total Nonstop talking:

The 2/26 Impact featured an alarming 19 minutes and 20 seconds of actual wrestling on a two hour show, which included a TNA X-division title ladder match, according to Bryan Alvarez.

:lol



Also a recent Mick Foley interview, showing how much of a vindictive prick Vince McMahon is:

Mick Foley recently spoke to the Edmonton Sun about several topics including retirement and Vince McMahon. On his retirement, Foley said: “I already did that in 2000. I went for a year without a match when the average retirement time for wrestlers is about six weeks. I won’t make a retirement announcement. I’ll never say never again.”

On the subject of Vince McMahon, Foley stated that they once had a really good relationship, but things soured due to business. “After I almost made the move to TNA in 2005, our relationship was never the same,” he says. “It was to the point where I didn’t even feel comfortable going into his office and eating his food while he was in a producers’ meeting.”

“Making the phone call to tell him [I was leaving] was very difficult,” Foley continued. “Within a day, on Vince’s orders I’m sure, I was pulled from the Legends of WrestleMania game.”


Way to go Vince. Asshole.
 
BTW, Legends of Wrestlemania comes out this month, and I'm considering getting it. I haven't bought a wrestling game in years, and it looks interesting, although I think it may be a game that has very little in the way of a longterm one player mode. Even if it had just a really long term run of the mill match after match one player mode like old wrestling games, I would be interested in getting it. Even Wrestlemania 2000 back on the N64 had that. Also the game mechanics look simplified.
 
I've been on and off with wrestling for the better part of 8 years,but I always watch wrestlemania.

I always feel I owe it to wrestling for being a big part of my childhood,and the attitude era is easily the best era in wrestling,so I always watch hoping for a good show,last year didn't disappoint.
 
Spider Silva said:
BTW, Legends of Wrestlemania comes out this month, and I'm considering getting it. I haven't bought a wrestling game in years, and it looks interesting, although I think it may be a game that has very little in the way of a longterm one player mode. Even if it had just a really long term run of the mill match after match one player mode like old wrestling games, I would be interested in getting it. Even Wrestlemania 2000 back on the N64 had that. Also the game mechanics look simplified.
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I'm in for it on 360. The ability to import the roster from Smackdown 09 has me very intrigued. Orton could run through the mid 80's WWE roster. lol
 
Spider Silva said:
BTW, Legends of Wrestlemania comes out this month, and I'm considering getting it. I haven't bought a wrestling game in years, and it looks interesting, although I think it may be a game that has very little in the way of a longterm one player mode. Even if it had just a really long term run of the mill match after match one player mode like old wrestling games, I would be interested in getting it. Even Wrestlemania 2000 back on the N64 had that. Also the game mechanics look simplified.
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In theory i should be getting WWE 2009 this month v_v
I know that vince is super bad and he kicks kittens but Mickey Rourke thanked him and WWE for their help on 'The Wrestler' (Movie which i havent watched yet)
 
Fersis said:
In theory i should be getting WWE 2009 this month v_v
I know that vince is super bad and he kicks kittens but Mickey Rourke thanked him and WWE for their help on 'The Wrestler' (Movie which i havent watched yet)
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If you've seen the Jake Roberts portion of Beyond the Mat, then youve seen the Wrestler.
 
The problem I have with this years Mania is that they seem to be advancing the stories too slowly to build interest. We don't even know for sure who will be in matches. I mean, sure we can draw conclusions like:

Orton vs. HHH
Cena vs. Edge
Taker vs. Koslov vs. HBK
Y2J vs. Austin
Miz and Morrison vs. The Colons
Money in the Bank.....


But nothing is really set yet. Seems the focus is more on the 25th anniversary and not the matches. Do I think it will suck? No. But I think it needs better direction and matches need to start falling in place and quickly.
 
Ok, so I went on wrestling hiatus for a while, and I'm a little confused; what is the difference between the world heavyweight title and the WWE title? When I watched it was the same thing. Also, what is the hierarchy of titles? (Like, which one is the better one). Also, where do other titles (Intercontinental etc) fit in? Thanks.

Oh, and

Y2J vs. Austin
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Stone Cold?!
 
WWE Title is the old WCW Title which is held by Edge. The World Heavyweight title is on the same level and is held by HHH. The difference is due to the brand split of Raw and Smackdown, they needed 2 world titles so each brand would have a champion. Both titles are on the same level.

The Intercontinental and The US Title are the same way. One for each brand.(I think I have it right, but it could be vice versa. I'm sure if I got it wrong someone will correct me.)

Also, Austin isn't officially going to be fighting Jericho, it's just a rumor at this point. But it seems likely.
 
worldrunover said:
Ok, so I went on wrestling hiatus for a while, and I'm a little confused; what is the difference between the world heavyweight title and the WWE title? When I watched it was the same thing. Also, what is the hierarchy of titles? (Like, which one is the better one). Also, where do other titles (Intercontinental etc) fit in? Thanks.

Oh, and



Stone Cold?!
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Ok, the title things isn't really confusing. Just think of it like WWE and WCW still existed.... RAW and Smackdown are separate "brands" that occasionally cross over.

RAW= WWF of old
World Heavyweight Title (this is NOT the old WCW title. It is a fresh new title with NO lineage. It only shares the appearance of the old "big gold" belt. The WCW title was absorbed into the WWE title by Chris Jericho when he beat Rock and Austin to become the first "undisputed" champion in professional wrestling)
Intercontinental
Women's World title
World Tag title

Smackdown = WCW
WWE championship (this is the title with all the history. hold both the WWE and WCW lineages.)
US title
Diva's Title
WWE tag titles
 
Silent_Echo said:
WWE Title is the old WCW Title which is held by Edge. The World Heavyweight title is on the same level and is held by HHH. The difference is due to the brand split of Raw and Smackdown, they needed 2 world titles so each brand would have a champion. Both titles are on the same level.

The Intercontinental and The US Title are the same way. One for each brand.(I think I have it right, but it could be vice versa. I'm sure if I got it wrong someone will correct me.)

Also, Austin isn't officially going to be fighting Jericho, it's just a rumor at this point. But it seems likely.
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Thanks. It's kind of weird they split the "brand", but I guess it gives more face time to more people and creates rivalries, or something. It's also kind of weird since HHH is now feuding with Orton. But anyway.
 
just to reaffirm that outcast is correct. The WWE Championship is the actual original WWF title. WWE Heavyweight Championship is NOT The WCW title but a newly created WWE title.
 
worldrunover said:
Thanks. It's kind of weird they split the "brand", but I guess it gives more face time to more people and creates rivalries, or something. It's also kind of weird since HHH is now feuding with Orton. But anyway.
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Yeah they make the different brands meaningless anyways. Edge is a Smackdown guy but he now has the Raw title. HHH is also a Smackdown guy Holding the Smackdown title and is feuding with Orton, a Raw guy.

And once a year they have a draft to 'balance' the rosters.

It all depends on Vince's mood apparently. Although it does make things interesting because they don't do interbrand stuff constantly.
 
borghe said:
just to reaffirm that outcast is correct. The WWE Championship is the actual original WWF title. WWE Heavyweight Championship is NOT The WCW title but a newly created WWE title.
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Thanks. I figured I got it backwards, but I knew either way it would be corrected anyways.
 
borghe said:
just to reaffirm that outcast is correct. The WWE Championship is the actual original WWF title. WWE Heavyweight Championship is NOT The WCW title but a newly created WWE title.
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I'm kinda weird.. I like looking at title lineages..... it's amazing some of the oddball choices that have been champions in the past for both WCW and WWE.

Y2Kev said:
holy fuck. why wouldn't teh table break :lol
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The table supports weren't cut in advance. (the ring around the underside of the table. It's usually cut or removed completely as it's metal.)
 
GoutPatrol said:
KURT ANGLE VS. HIROSHI TANAHASHI APRIL 5TH!!!!!!!!!

PUT THAT IN THE TITLE.
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Tanahashi wins by 2 high fly flows. :)

Should be a hell of a match. I'm loving the cross over stuff TNA and NJPW are doing. Really good stuff.
 
DMczaf said:
HBK vs Undertaker angle better include the sequel to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIsb7Daf3jo
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I hear the current plan is Koslov vs Taker vs HBK, which I hope they don't go with as it would ruin one of the few marquee matches.

Taker/HBK hasn't really been done in over 10 years.

Silent_Echo said:
The problem I have with this years Mania is that they seem to be advancing the stories too slowly to build interest. We don't even know for sure who will be in matches. I mean, sure we can draw conclusions like:

Orton vs. HHH
Cena vs. Edge
Taker vs. Koslov vs. HBK
Y2J vs. Austin
Miz and Morrison vs. The Colons
Money in the Bank.....
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I actually think they are doing a better job with the build-up. My problem is the repeats, we've seen Orton/HHH and Cena/Edge way too often, but for the actual build-up. Its nice seeing them interacting not just because they are in a match together.

Officially, none of them are in the same match, but going after each other.

And my other big issue is... it seems at the end of the day the champion will end up challenging the Rumble winner at Mania, which is just kind of backwards.
 
Vince is being a dick... this time, fucking over a CHARITY event that Booker T is hosting in Houston.

Last week, PWInsider.com reported that Booker T's Fight for Kids Foundation, a charity the TNA star heads, would be promoting the first-ever "Booker T's Legends of Wrestling Fanfest" on Friday 4/5 in Houston, Texas.

The convention, obviously timed to use the Wrestlemania synergy, is designed as a fundraiser for the charity. Booker handles a lot of charity events in the Houston area, where he was born and raised.

Since word of Booker's convention came out, World Wrestling Entertainment began contacting a number of talents and instead booked them to appear in some fashion over the Wrestlemania weekend, including the company's AXXESS sessions and the WWE Hall of Fame ceremony, specifically asking them not to appear on the Booker T event.

PWInsider.com has confirmed that Torrie Wilson, Nick Bockwinkel, Tito Santana and Ron Simmons have all pulled out of the Booker T convention after they accepted WWE bookings. In the case of most, Booker T had purchased plane tickets for their travel.

Sid Vicious has also pulled off the convention, although I don't know if that was due to WWE interest in Vicious. There has been back and forth talk about him getting a tryout with WWE over the last 18 months, but it never seems to happen.

It's interesting to see the timing WWE suddenly booking former talents that they don't regularly use immediately after their names are announced for a charity event that would go up against WWE's own Wrestlemania weekend plans.

Currently set for the Booker T Legends of Wrestling Fanfest are Sting, Kevin Nash, Samoa Joe, Amy "Lita" Dumas, Booker T, Sharmell, Team 3D, Ernest Miller, Christy Hemme, The Beautiful People, Jimmy Hart, Jake Roberts and Brian Knobbs. Tully Blanchard and Iceman King Parsons will also be appearing. For more information, visit www.bookertlow.com.
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Way to go Vince, you excel at being an asshole.
 
Yeah... why the hell they give Koslov so many oportunities?
Come on!!! Taker Vs HBK is awesome as hell. The winning streak vs Mr. Wrestlemania.
Koslov is just a guy in white underwear :(
 
GoutPatrol said:
KURT ANGLE VS. HIROSHI TANAHASHI APRIL 5TH!!!!!!!!!

PUT THAT IN THE TITLE.
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This one should be a better match than Angle vs. Nakamura. Not a big fan of Nakamura and that match was pretty "meh" to me. Nakamura gets a lot of comparisons to Hashimoto, but I have no freakin' clue where all of that comes from. Nakamura couldn't hold Hash's jock with his current ability. The dude uses the FU for God's sake...
 
The sooner Taker retires the better. His gimmick is pathetic, hes a slow old man and his matches are boring. Seems the entire build up has been Undefeated Kolzlov v Undefeated Taker, which Taker obviously wins. What a shitty match that will be.
 
painey said:
The sooner Taker retires the better. His gimmick is pathetic, hes a slow old man and his matches are boring. Seems the entire build up has been Undefeated Kolzlov v Undefeated Taker, which Taker obviously wins. What a shitty match that will be.
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Wow... I dont think I've seen a post so full of fail in a long time.
 
To help out Outcast with his point.
Gonna point out the wrong.

painey said:
The sooner Taker retires the better. His gimmick is pathetic, hes a slow old man and his matches are boring. Seems the entire build up has been Undefeated Kolzlov v Undefeated Taker, which Taker obviously wins. What a shitty match that will be.
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Anything not in bold is correct.
 
His gimmick's "pathetic"? He's probably the longest standing character in wrestling. With good reason, it works.

Taker's slow? He's a big man, he's pretty damn speedy for a 7 footer.

His matches are boring? Hardly. The guy can pull a good match out of just about anyone.... unless they're worthless like Heidenreich.
You want a classic? Angle vs Taker from No Mercy a few years back. AMAZING match.

Of course Taker is going to win at Mania... that's his legacy. He'll be the only person in WWE history to never lose at Mania. They won't break that record out of respect for him. He deserves it. He'll beat HBK and probably Koslov, but it will be a good match. I think Koslov has potential, he's just too green right now.
 
I have to admit to being on the "tired of Taker" side of the fence myself.
"He is going for 'old school!!!'" It is kind of sad watching how the other guy has to help him balance more than ever these days.
That whole MMA wanna be thing and the best striker in the business bit puts me off too, but the worst is the twenty minute entrance.
Do not get me wrong, I used to be a major taker mark but the whole switch to the 'american Badass' killed it and it has never been the same since.
That being said, I would rather see him stick around and help new guys instead of retiring.
 
OokieSpookie said:
I have to admit to being on the "tired of Taker" side of the fence myself.
"He is going for 'old school!!!'" It is kind of sad watching how the other guy has to help him balance more than ever these days.
That whole MMA wanna be thing and the best striker in the business bit puts me off too, but the worst is the twenty minute entrance.
Do not get me wrong, I used to be a major taker mark but the whole switch to the 'american Badass' killed it and it has never been the same since.
That being said, I would rather see him stick around and help new guys instead of retiring.
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I agree with a lot of the things you are saying. But Taker can still put on a great match. Look at the last elimination chamber before he came in the match was terrible. Once he was in it was great.

Brain's reaction to seeing the women in the audience cry is amazing
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Heenan and Monsoon were hands down the best commentary team in the history of commentating.
 
OokieSpookie said:
I have to admit to being on the "tired of Taker" side of the fence myself.
"He is going for 'old school!!!'" It is kind of sad watching how the other guy has to help him balance more than ever these days.
That whole MMA wanna be thing and the best striker in the business bit puts me off too, but the worst is the twenty minute entrance.
Do not get me wrong, I used to be a major taker mark but the whole switch to the 'american Badass' killed it and it has never been the same since.
That being said, I would rather see him stick around and help new guys instead of retiring.
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The guy's pretty much the one guy holding the Smackdown locker room together. He's the "leader" and essentially viewed as Vince's right hand guy.

I actually liked the biker taker in hindsight. He added a lot to his character by basically just being himself.
 
Outcast2004 said:
His gimmick's "pathetic"? He's probably the longest standing character in wrestling. With good reason, it works.

Taker's slow? He's a big man, he's pretty damn speedy for a 7 footer.

His matches are boring? Hardly. The guy can pull a good match out of just about anyone.... unless they're worthless like Heidenreich.
You want a classic? Angle vs Taker from No Mercy a few years back. AMAZING match.

Of course Taker is going to win at Mania... that's his legacy. He'll be the only person in WWE history to never lose at Mania. They won't break that record out of respect for him. He deserves it. He'll beat HBK and probably Koslov, but it will be a good match. I think Koslov has potential, he's just too green right now.
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Wow! You think Koslov has potential? That guy is terrible. Nathan Jones terrible. Actually, shit, Nathan Jones was more entertaining than Koslov. Hell, I'd even take Heidenreich over Koslov. You notice how SmackDown always has some big 'tard who eventually fades into oblivion? I predict Koslov will be gone in a year or two.
 
Taker is a good wrestler and he constantly progress, even after all this years...
The only problem is that he's condemned to fight big bad wrestlers... Kaly, Koslov, Giant Gonzales, Yokozuna, Kevin nash....
 
It's gonna be Mysterio vs. Knox vs. Kane, I wonder who's gonna win, lol. Man, Mysterio needs a gimmick change more so than anyone. He's become so damn stale.
 
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