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Why would Edge help Triple HHH?Dork Knight said:
March Wrasslin Thread: Road to WrestleMania
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Outcast2004
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Penguin said:Batista saves Raw!
Now wait, if Batista wins does he become the champion?
And where was HBK/Taker?
nope, who matter who pins whom on his team, HHH retains.
They stole a gimmick from a recent TNA PPV... things must REALLY being creatively bankrupt.
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JavyOO7 said:
Nice! I think I'll wait for the blu-ray like I did Marine. Sorry, Cena!
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Orton has no charisma. Cant sell for shit, and can only barely manage to contort his face into a single, set emotion... possibly going for psychotic, succeeding in stupidity. And just when I thought they cant have a main eventer with even less charisma and skills than Orton... Enter Batista.
Oh WWE :lol :lol
Oh WWE :lol :lol
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Penguin said:Batista saves Raw!
Now wait, if Batista wins does he become the champion?
And where was HBK/Taker?
David Arquette wins in that case.
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iamcool388 said:
Yet, some would have you believe Orton is entertaining.
iamcool388 said:
oh god damn it. where is that steven segal poster i saw on gaf one time where it showed the many expressions of steven segal... though all the facial expressions was of just one facial expression, lol.
maybe if my photoshop capabilities are up to par i can do something like that but for randy orton
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Spider Silva said:
Yeah I dont get those people... entertaining how... hopefully in a so bad its good kinda way, cuz any other way wouldnt make sense. :lol
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he's extremely entertaining... when he's on the mic... he also has a cool finishing move, though i think kanyon used it best.Spider Silva said:
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Not only that, but Kid Rock ruined Warren Zevon and Lynyrd Skynrd (spelling!).
They really should have allowed for introductions in the battle royale. And they should have at least allotted for 30 seconds or so to go by before bodies started flying out of the ring.
On the plus side, Mae Young wasn't in the match.
eh, he's been kind of a downer as of late. His mic skills were always hit and miss, but now it seems to be more miss than before. However, his "is it none of my business" promo with Stephanie in her office those months back was great. As for his RKO, it's not as good as it once was. I use to like the whole "come out of nowhere" approach they used with it, like when he RKO Carlito in mid air or his twist of fate reversal into a RKO against Jeff Hardy back when he was champ. Now it's just that stupid ass humping the ground build up, kind of lame.The Faceless Master said:
I like Orton, but they aren't using him to his full potential. This running away and begging during matches stuff needs to stop. How are we supposed to believe he can be the champ if he's begging for SHANE MCMAHON to stop wailing on him? He needs to just be sadistic and violent, plain and simple. He can be a bit more cerebral in the promos, but in matches he just needs to beat the hell out of whoever he's facing. Which brings me to another point: why isn't he having more matches? I'm trying to remember his last five actual matches he was a part of: HHH at WM, Shane at No Way Out, Royal Rumble, some tag match and uh... what? He needs some over faces to job to him and take a brutal beating to hype him up more. Feed him Rey Mysterio or Kofi Kingston. It doesn't matter if he wins cleanly or not, just as long as he starts pounding on them after the match and the officials or whoever has to come out and stop him.
And why is it that Cody Rhodes always seems to be made an example out of when they're trying to taunt Orton? First the cage match against HHH and now he was Batista Bombed. Is DiBiase just faster?
And why is it that Cody Rhodes always seems to be made an example out of when they're trying to taunt Orton? First the cage match against HHH and now he was Batista Bombed. Is DiBiase just faster?
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Just saw the mike/taker match...wow
That was fucking great, and both of the tombstones were nice variations. What a way to go out.
That was fucking great, and both of the tombstones were nice variations. What a way to go out.
The best thing Orton ever did was when Rob Van Dam was going out of WWE at that extreme rules PPV. When Rob went for the Rolling Thunder and Orton jumped up and power slammed him out of the air, I was thinking he really was a legend killer and that he had a counter for everyone's moves.
Then it all went to shit.
Then it all went to shit.
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That's what I like about the RKO, it can either come out of nowhere or be built up to within the match, which to me is what makes a finisher a good finisher.
And I don't get why everyone on this forum (yet no where else oddly enough) hates his ringwork. He's one of the best workers in the company currently if you actually pay attention and know what you're looking for.
I know you all bitch about his headlocks, but a) he probably has the most convincing headlock in the business, he makes it a point to really wrench the neck, and it's all build up to the punt/RKO and b) he's said before in interviews that he eats it up when people poo poo all over them.
His Garvin stomps are fantastic depending on the opponent or situation. Cena sells them like murder and the stomp section towards the end of the match on Sunday was probably the best part of the match.
Then theres his dropkick, neckbreaker, and mannerisms during the match, making for a very nice all around package.
But most of you guys seem to hate everything that's not your latest indy smark pet project so I don't even really know why I bothered. I sure as hell know I'm not going to persuade any of you guys of anything.
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Kletian said:
There's nothing convincing about Orton's ringwork.
Headlocks/chinlocks are resthold to be used when the talent needs a breather or need direction in a match from the veteran they are paired with. Not as a move to go to countless times just to garner cheap heat.
There's n intensity to him and he has no flow to his matches.
Outcast2004 said:
I'm well aware of the purpose of a headlock, what I'm saying is that Orton takes the extra effort to make it actually not LOOK like a damn resthold. I mean I'm not one not to call a spade a spade but theres a resthold headlock and then there's Orton's resthold headlock.
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A resthold is a resthold is a resthold. Even if it's delivered by someone who looks like they should be in an Abercrombie catalog more than a WWE ring.Kletian said:
You can't keep going back to the same thing over and over again during a match just because you have no idea of what to do. He does that when's lost the crowd to garner a reaction from the crowd. But it's the wrong kind of heat.
yeah, i think orton just doesn't have it in the ring. i still think his mic skills are great but ring wise its something to be desired. though i think as long as he's passable in the ring wwe won't care and will continue to push him... because wwe, and perhaps rightfully so, are about character driven personalities and the like
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His restholds would be convincing if they were anything other than wastes of time, and even casual fans can see that. Until he wins a match with one, fuck him.Kletian said:
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Guzim said:
I enjoyed watching seeing cena win just cause i like seeing the hate he gets....even though he has gotten better at wrestling and is tolerable, ppl just hold on to the fact that he wasn't that great and lacked skill but he's gotten better and is on his way but how far depends on WWE and the horrible scripts they have going.
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No I don't.....Guzim said:
Not until he learns how to actually wrestle again. When he debuted he actually could, that went to the wayside after his rapper gimmick
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Barrage said:
Cena vs Khali at One Night Stand 07. One of the worst matches I've ever seen. The only reason Cena has had some ok matches is because guys like Edge and Michaels carry the whole thing.
Started watching TNA Lockdown 06. Daniels vs Senshi was awesome. Lots of back and forth. With a sick death valley driver. I wish TNA would give us matches like that nowadays.
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I'm from April, and I can tell you that from your time to mine, TNA has not.
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Outcast2004 said:
Some of the best matches are composed of a good 60% "rest holds." Watch Bret Hart vs Mr. Perfect from Summerslam 91 - widely praised as an all-time great. It's all side headlock.
Speaking of Bret, I've heard him praise Randy Orton in recent interviews. While I can't stand Orton's ring work or promos, I respect Bret's knowledge of ring psychology. It's not everyone's gimmick to be a technical wrestler. That being said, his match with HHH at Mania was pitiful, and I actually have yet to see an Orton match that I can say was great. Then again, I'm only starting to watch consistently again.
Edit: Just saw this was the old thread. My bad. If anyone cares to respond, put it in the new one.
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