http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-black-teens-since-legalisation-a7030071.html
Maybe all the black and brown kids just smell like weed for some reason?
Marijuana Related Arrests Skyrocket In Colorado For Black And Latino Minors
- Thread starter Slayven
- Start date
- Status
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-black-teens-since-legalisation-a7030071.html
Maybe all the black and brown kids just smell like weed for some reason?
jim-jam bongs
Member
Here I was feeling positive about the possibility that widespread legalisation would stop the police from using minor drug offences to marginalise minorities, but I guess I'm just naïve.
It's not just the system, it's the people in the system. Change needs to happen in how law enforcement operates, too.
We are born with that smell. It is known.
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
https://www.buzzfeed.com/amandachic...eens-up-for-bl?utm_term=.aclVrZpdp#.nuWR8y9o9
from the buzzfeed article the OP's source sourced
also their bar graphs
from the buzzfeed article the OP's source sourced
also their bar graphs
Imperfected
Member
There's already an excise tax on marijuana sales. This is just cops being racist assholes.
entremet
Member
EdibleKnife
Member
Also can't have your reputation being ruined or your lieutenant on your ass from hassling too many white kids
I've noticed a lot of people like to say that about where they live as heinous shit happens unaddressed under their noses
Or they just have nothing better to do ...
Frozenprince
Banned
For whites only, apparently.
Don't stop them from being racist assholes.
Frozenprince
Banned
NGL if I was 16-17 when legalization happened I'd have spent all day in dispensaries staring at weed too.
This makes a mess of statistics. It's like they just copy-pasted some numbers out of a press release or something. Almost nothing here has the context that makes it matter.
Shouldn't I expect that number to increase tho? If marijuana is legally available, it should be easier for kids to get their hands on it, no? Before they had to know a drug dealer, now they can use a fake ID or find a store that doesn't ID or have an older sibling pick up or or or.
Why give me the rate of use and then gross number of arrests. I need the populations of those counties to know if there's some discrepancy here.
1.5 times more likely than *what*? White students? Or students generally?
According to the report, Colorado elementary and secondary schools saw a 34% increase in the number of cannabis arrests between 2012 and 2014.
Shouldn't I expect that number to increase tho? If marijuana is legally available, it should be easier for kids to get their hands on it, no? Before they had to know a drug dealer, now they can use a fake ID or find a store that doesn't ID or have an older sibling pick up or or or.
A 2013 survey by the Colorado Department of Public Health revealed that the area with the highest rate of teen cannabis use, Pueblo County, where 32.1% of high school students use the drug, saw just five teens arrested in 2014.
In comparison, in Aapahoe County, where an average number of adolescents smoke the drug around 20% there were almost 400 arrests for marijuana offences in 2014.
In comparison, in Aapahoe County, where an average number of adolescents smoke the drug around 20% there were almost 400 arrests for marijuana offences in 2014.
Why give me the rate of use and then gross number of arrests. I need the populations of those counties to know if there's some discrepancy here.
While black students are 1.5 times more likely to use marijuana, they are 2.2 times as likely to be arrested for an offence related to the drug.
1.5 times more likely than *what*? White students? Or students generally?
jeff_rigby
Banned
So you are in favor of 10 year olds smoking weed?
If you read between the lines; the police are arresting 10-17 year olds dis-proportionally because they can tell a 17 year old is not 21 but 18-21 are not being arrested. So the OBVIOUS juvenile offenders are being arrested.
This is not police targeting by race but by AGE. I want them to arrest my under age Son if he is using and I am mostly white (1/8 American Indian). Gesh....Think about what you are reading and get that chip off your shoulder.
Frozenprince
Banned
Bruh. Did you even read the article? Or check the stats?
It's ONLY minority kids that are being arrested more.
You still wouldn't be able to buy it, they probably wouldn't even let you in.
uncelestial
Member
Okay, I get that there's an age minimum that's leading to these arrests in the case of minors, but why would anyone but minors be arrested for pot in CO?
Does "legal" mean something different to these cops? Legalization only made a dent.
Does "legal" mean something different to these cops? Legalization only made a dent.
entremet
Member
Okay, I get that there's an age minimum that's leading to these arrests in the case of minors, but why would anyone but minors be arrested for pot in CO?
Does "legal" mean something different to these cops? Legalization only made a dent.
Driving under the influence?
Also, street selling it still illegal.
univariate
Banned
it's always the same 2-3 guys on here making threads/posts like this .
Frozenprince
Banned
*raises hand*
Because people being directly impacted by institutional bigotry tend to notice it more than those that aren't?
univariate
Banned
No, for people who follow the law. Stop inventing stories about perceived racism.
jeff_rigby
Banned
1) It's only underage that are being arrested and by a large margin 10 to 17 not 18-just under 21.
2) As a parent I want the police to arrest my Son if he is smoking.
3) Police if they care will arrest any child smoking, not arresting a white Kid is long term FAVORING minority kids.
Wut?
Having a drug related arrest can completely fuck your future up. Not to mention often immediately losing your job, costs related to lawyers and court fees that can put you in bad financial situations, etc.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Silly Jim-jam..bless your heart.
FloatingDivider
Member
Well clearly this is a good thing. The state obviously cares deeply for the fates of these minority citizens since they're keeping them from using this gateway drug. Anyone that has ever played any iteration of Doom knows that gateways are terrible things that need to be avoided at all costs. If anything I wonder why they are taking a far more lax approach in the protection of these white youths, who are freely traversing into the devilish realms of pot abuse. There is an insurmountable mountain of scientific evidence that proves most of them will never be seen again outside of a trance inducing vape cloud of some bomb ass king louis xiii. I honestly believe this may be some form of Illuminati plot in order to kickstart and maintain the proliferation of the subgenre of EDM-Trap. If pot was not available it could not be lit. But pot is available so it's always lit and as a result the brainwashing bleepybloops and 808 bass boom keeps being proliferated and is infecting more and more of these white youths. We need to stop this infection from spreading before everyone is marijuana steve, or lazy tom, or worse... slothful paul.
EdibleKnife
Member
This is true if you ignore that the arrest for a poor minority is pretty much a sentence to the prison pipeline.
jim-jam bongs
Member
Jeff, the suggestion that this is targeting age over race is belied by the fact that arrests of white adolescents dropped at the same time as non-white arrests skyrocketed. And I don't know how not arresting a white kid helps minorities, that's going to be a hard sell.
Frozenprince
Banned
Imperfected
Member
Obviously, the arrest will change their mind about using narcotics. I think we all know that a kid fined for marijuana use will never use drugs again.
(The thing I really like is that even before you get to this flawed logic, you have to pass through the supposition that it's significantly beneficial for teenagers who smoke to stop smoking. I don't think that's necessarily a given, either.)
These kids can get the arrest expunged by participating in a drug education class. But yeah, going through processing and then taking that class is going to cost money.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
So why are you here if you aren't interested in learning facts about drug arrest still being disproportionate by race?
Frozenprince
Banned
Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
univariate
Banned
I'm not breaking the law. Not sure what you're trying to prove with that silly image.
While talking shit about the South at the same time.
univariate
Banned
I am absolutely interested if there is actual racism.
edot: nevermind, my math was off. The rate is 3 times higher though. Come on now.
Frozenprince
Banned
So what would you call disproportional arrest rates that heavily slant against minorities?
King Tubby
Member
My mind is full of fuck right now. You can't be this naive.
EdibleKnife
Member
What do you consider "actual" racism?
Which I am going to take a wild guess here, isn't going to be a problem at all for kids who mostly likely get caught up in this dragnet, the poor.
You're gonna have kids with criminal records simply because they/their parents basically couldn't afford to take it off...which is just going to lead to another cycle of poverty since they are going to be locked out of many employment opportunities.
Frozenprince
Banned
Or they'll beat the money out of these poor families in order to get it expunged.
Either way nobody wins here.
Which takes time; meanwhile if you are a 17 year old looking at colleges, applying for scholarships, etc... you have a drug crime on your record.
I had 17 year old frend get arrested for drugs at a concert the summer between senior year and 1st year of college. Lost his scholarship to NYU, lost his job since he couldn't show up to work and they found out why, and was even kicked out of a couple of volunteer programs he was involved in. Shit was savage and ridiculous; all for wanting to get high in a parking lot before a 6 hour long concert we were going to be camping at.
- Status