Mario Kart 8 - Review thread

PadWarrior said:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jordans...ves-nintendo-is-the-game-maker-for-grown-ups/
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I'm following what he's saying up until the part where he goes off on a tangent about how "disruption and innovation" is juvenile and restricted to "teenage thinking".

I get the point he's ultimately trying to make: Something that is consistently done well over a long period of time amount of time can be better than innovation for innovation's sake, but the whole thing sounds way overly defensive. It's silly to dismiss innovative thinking, literally an outrageous claim.
 
Lunar15 said:
I'm following what he's saying up until the part where he goes off on a tangent about how "disruption and innovation" is juvenile and restricted to "teenage thinking".

I get the point he's ultimately trying to make: Something that is consistently done well over a long period of time amount of time can be better than innovation for innovation's sake, but the whole thing sounds way overly defensive. It's silly to dismiss innovative thinking, literally an outrageous claim.
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I don't think the article's author dismisses innovative thinking per se, just the disruptive part of it, particularly when it's done for the sake of 'new is better just because it crushes the old'. You know, the teenage rebel mentality - we've all been there.

Amir0x said:
Man they sure made a pretty game for Wii U.
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Just wait till you see it in 60fps ; )
 
blu said:
I don't think the article's author dismisses innovative thinking per se, just the disruptive part of it, particularly when it's done for the sake of 'new is better just because it crushes the old'. You know, the teenage rebel mentality - we've all been there.
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I get it, but only to an extent. It just seems very, very defensive. I like the writer though, and he has some great articles.
 
AdmiralMikey said:
Absolutely. I've been hoping for some kind of Super Smash Karts ever since Melee launched!

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This picture makes me so happy It just perfectly blends the characters into matching art styles and that's what's so great about it.

People can say "it would look weird to see Link driving a kart" all they want, but all that means is they've gotta get the art style down. That's something I have a lot of faith in Nintendo to pull off, and part of what already makes Smash Bros stand ahead of clones like PSASBR - Nintendo's characters mix really well.

Though no, I don't exactly desire for "Nintendo Kart" - just Mario Kart with more open special characters from outside the rule. Like what third-party is to Smash Bros - the core game is Nintendo, but there's a dash of characters outside of Nintendo because people like them (within Sakurai's high standards of iconic status). Just the same I'd love Mario Kart to remain Mario Kart, but with a dash of characters outside Mario (within equally high standards of iconic status... + Captain Falcon because he's a racing character).
 
Lunar15 said:
I'm following what he's saying up until the part where he goes off on a tangent about how "disruption and innovation" is juvenile and restricted to "teenage thinking".

I get the point he's ultimately trying to make: Something that is consistently done well over a long period of time amount of time can be better than innovation for innovation's sake, but the whole thing sounds way overly defensive. It's silly to dismiss innovative thinking, literally an outrageous claim.
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yeah it's really an obvious "why not both?"

seconding calls for smask carts, or maybe F-Zero rebooted as that for different gameplay
 
Holy Order Sol said:
I don't get the need for these cross-overs to make sense anyway. Throw characters in, go nuts. That's what they're for.
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Same here. Donkey Kong is already in Mario Kart for example, so other characters could also make it without any problem as far as i can see. I know that this (the first Donkey Kong game) is where Mario (or, Jump Man) originally appeared, but i've never seen Donkey Kong as part of the Mushroom Kingdom.
 
test_account said:
Regarding cross-over, is there any reason why Donkey Kong is in Mario Kart? I know that this is where Mario (or, Jump Man) originally appeared, but i've never seen Donkey Kong as part of the Mushroom Kingdom. If Donkey Kong can appear, i dont see why other characters cant be included as well.
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They have the same origin which is reason enough. It's not an arbitrary inclusion. Mario is a spin off, it's not a truly separate franchise like Zelda, Metroid etc are.
 
QuantumZebra said:
This is ... this is just dumb, I'm sorry. It's like asking why Jeff Gordon would be a better or worse driver than Dale Jr. or why Danica Patrick is better than soandso. Diff. drivers have different mindsets/abilities/reactions/plans/strategies etc etc etc... I mean this would appear to be common sense.
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Please explain how you would implement 'different mindsets/abilities/reactions/plans/strategies' of the characters into the game so it actually makes a difference in gameplay...
 
lensoftruth said:
Wii version got DLC of sorts so theres a high chance this will happen.
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I'm fully expecting Battle Mode DLC, imagine Block Fort in space, where you can drive all around Galaxy style with anti-grav. The fact that there's currently no arena battle stage is too big of an oversight for a game with this level of overall polish. They're adding that stuff in later, I'm sure.
 
MoogleWizard said:
Please explain how you would implement 'different mindsets/abilities/reactions/plans/strategies' of the characters into the game so it actually makes a difference in gameplay...
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They'd handle differently... like the characters in Mario Kart already do. I'm not seeing the issue here at all. Why is it important for Samus to have a completely different driving model than Peach, but Peach doesn't require a sufficiently different driving model from Donkey Kong? Why are we over complicating something so silly? They're racing karts, not saving the world.

Besides if Sonic Allstars can have Opa-Opa racing BD Joe... then I'm sure Nintendo can work something out.
 
test_account said:
Same here. Donkey Kong is already in Mario Kart for example, so other characters could also make it without any problem as far as i can see. I know that this (the first Donkey Kong game) is where Mario (or, Jump Man) originally appeared, but i've never seen Donkey Kong as part of the Mushroom Kingdom.
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Mario Party, Golf, Tennis, VS series and more.
 
PadWarrior said:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jordans...ves-nintendo-is-the-game-maker-for-grown-ups/
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There's so much in that editorial that I love. When "it's actively fun to play" isn't a good enough justification to seek out a videogame, I feel like something's wrong with an audience's outlook. For my taste, the author reaches a bit when they (over)simplify the idea of disruptive media, but the underlying point about what we call mature material needs to be heard more often than I see it.
 
Principate said:
They have the same origin which is reason enough. It's not an arbitrary inclusion. Mario is a spin off, it's not a truly separate franchise like Zelda, Metroid etc are.
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True, but that is so long ago. They've both taken seperate ways (so to speak) since then.


evilromero said:
Mario Party, Golf, Tennis, VS series and more.
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Indeed, which is why i think it shouldnt be any problem to include other characters as well without having to justify it, nor change the name of the game.
 
test_account said:
True, but that is so long ago. They've both taken seperate ways (so to speak) since then.



Indeed, which is why i think it shouldnt be any problem to include other characters as well without having to justify it, nor change the name of the game.
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Not really Donkey Kong has been in Mario Kart for ages (majority if not all depending on if it was in super I have no idea since I didn't play the game) and many Mario games in general. That's not really separate ways. Your talking as if they haven't existed in the same Mario game for years.
 
Principate said:
Not really Donkey Kong has been in Mario Kart for ages (majority if not all depending on if it was in super I have no idea since I didn't play the game) and many Mario games in general. That's not really separate ways. Your talking as if they haven't existed in the same Mario game for years.
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No, when i'm talking about going seperate ways, i'm talking about it being two distinct series despite that both Donkey Kong and Mario co-starred in the same games to begin with. Donkey Kong is not a Mushroom Kingdom character as far as i know, so Nintendo "split" those two characters into two different series as time went by. Donkey Kong was also in Super Mario Kart for SNES as well indeed, and i know that Donkey Kong has been in several of Mario games. Mario and Donkey Kong has that relationship, so i dont feel that Donkey Kong being in Mario Kart feel out of place, thats not my arguement.

Maybe i should clearify. I've seen some arguing that other Nintendo characters "cant" be in Mario Kart because they arent from the Mushroom Kingdom. Donkey Kong is not from the Mushroom Kingdom either as far as i know, yet he is in Mario Kart. Despite Mario and Donkey Kong's relationship, i dont see any problems with including other characters in Mario Kart that arent from the Mushroom Kingdom without having to change the name of the game or anything like that. The majority of the characters would still be from the Mushroom Kingdom anyway.

EDIT: I see now that you replied to my unedited post where i asked why Donkey Kong was in Mario Kart. I edited my post before i saw your reply, wording it differently :) I know that it makes sense why Donkey Kong is in Mario Kart, i was just trying to make a point that since Donkey Kong isnt a Mushroom Kingdom character, i dont see any problem of including other Nintendo characters as well.

And just to clearify another thing, when i said "True, but that is so long ago" in my previous post, i was referring to what you said about Mario being a spinoff. While technically correct, its so long ago that i dont think many people see Mario and Donkey Kong as spinoffs in these days, but rather see them as two unique/different series.
 
test_account said:
No, when i'm talking about going seperate ways, i'm talking about it being two distinct series despite that both Donkey Kong and Mario co-starred in the same games to begin with. Donkey Kong is not a Mushroom Kingdom character as far as i know, so Nintendo "split" those two characters into two different series as time went by. Donkey Kong was also in Super Mario Kart for SNES as well indeed, and i know that Donkey Kong has been in several of Mario games. Mario and Donkey Kong has that relationship, so i dont feel that Donkey Kong being in Mario Kart feel out of place, thats not my arguement.

Maybe i should clearify. I've seen some arguing that other Nintendo characters "cant" be in Mario Kart because they arent from the Mushroom Kingdom. Donkey Kong is not from the Mushroom Kingdom either as far as i know, yet he is in Mario Kart. Despite Mario and Donkey Kong's relationship, i dont see any problems with including other characters in Mario Kart that arent from the Mushroom Kingdom without having to change the name of the game or anything like that. The majority of the characters would still be from the Mushroom Kingdom anyway.

EDIT: And just to clearify another thing, when i said "True, but that is so long ago" in my previous post, i was referring to what you said about Mario being a spinoff. While technically correct, its so long ago that both Mario and Donkey Kong as two seperate franchises now. They are not the hero/protagonist duo like they used to be back in the early 1980s.
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Don't forget Mii! Certainly no Mushroom Kingdom character.
 
boyshine said:
I'm fully expecting Battle Mode DLC, imagine Block Fort in space, where you can drive all around Galaxy style with anti-grav. The fact that there's currently no arena battle stage is too big of an oversight for a game with this level of overall polish. They're adding that stuff in later, I'm sure.
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I hope you're right, but I think you're setting yourself up for massive disappointment. Nintendo's gon' Nintendo.
 
Got to play the demo at Walmart. Super fun. Looks amazing! I may have contracted super herpes from touching the controller. Pre-ordered.
 
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