Abstraction (derp) layers. In Windows, your extraction layers are higher up with less kernel access. PCs more often than not rely on brute forced methods for performance gains.
Interesting. What's their total bandwidth?
Gears E day is gonna be a transparent af on my 4090.
Implying pc devs aren’t already going insane, what do you shader stutter is coming from?
What else? It was so obvious.
So memory bandwidth was the bottleneck after all. Well done.
PS5 SSD is costing less than XSX SSD as it's fully custom and integrated to the MB. It's the RD costs that were higher but they likely reimbursed those costs already.
Nope, NVIDIA architectures just have a single unified register file. It's actually AMD that has split register files (Vector+Scalar for RDNA, Vector+Scalar+Accumulation for CDNA).
It is a problem on Windows/PC.
See above (not the whole game - but the GPU code - yes). It's mostly users that are going insane over it though (and for good reasons).
So register remapping, but contending for same resources. Presumably PS5 Pro reuses one of the two register pools and didn't add another - which would make the whole use loosy comparable then (though I guess NVidia can get larger register file this way for the purpose).
I have this feeling not only with Mark's job but also AI labs. Imagine their feeling getting results of their latest massive secret training runs, must be amazing.
I think by that he meant that "Playstation Spectral" is their branding for AI models and the other two letters would be the technique/model, so Frame Gen would be PSFG if they follow that logic. But i did not get the feeling that they would stop naming "PSSR" PSSR if they keep on improving it.
like what features? Can you see it?
Those features that had no significant impact are important now, not minor!Whatever Cerny didn't put there is NOT NEEDED!
Want proof? Look at PS5 vs Series X
How do you go from saying TOPS performance isn't important to now saying these things were important despite years of proof that they weren't?
RDNA2 features. *XBOX only
Abstraction layers. Unless we're talking about something else actually called extraction layers?
Yup, total class act, never overhyped, just explained like an engineer
PS5: RDNA 2 raster + RDNA2 RT + RDNA1 Front-End +RDNA1 Render-Back-Ends
Yet the TOPs/ML performance they included isn't? Even though they relate to some of the things you list?
If this is the case why did you see the need to reply to this very simple post
Nobody is angry. I think you're just often missing the context of the conversation. He mentioned the talks of RDNA1.x disappearing because twilo was making the same mistake again of reintroducing "not full RDNA3". Then when you swooped in to reply and tell everyone base PS5 is missing features of "full RDNA2" he clarified by saying look at the actual results of this custom RDNA in PS5 base, how those things were meaningless/unimportant overall.
Only fanboys care about this. Sony choose the right tech stack from RDNA2. In the end, real world performance matters, and it does not seem the features they passed on matter.
Not to be the grammar nazi here - but there's no such feature as SFS, in any architecture(or DX12 spec).
The double standard seems to be driven by: 'Not the way Nvidia is doing it, so it is wrong!' and that's felt like the angle since the: 'Not full RDNA2' projection at the start of the gen yielded negative benefits against the far, far superior PS5 APU design.
Probably find out soon. Even Nvidia can't think they can keep brute forcing it though, so expect them to instead find ways to use the tensor cores as it seems a lot of potential is left sitting on the table, albeit used intensively for brief bursts.
Nvidia is not just brute forcing things though. In terms of performance per watt and efficiency of die space they still lead both Intel and AMD. It just so happens they take that and throw enormous amounts of power and a massive die to get the absolutely peak performance for the 90 series cards, but the majority of their offerings are much smaller chips. AD106 is a mere 188mm2 for example.
They don't lead in raster in 'relative' terms going by twitch shooters like CoD's performance on AMD cards AFAIK. They have brute forced DLSS by having a subsystem that sits idle between the large window of upscaling, and they brute force RT also, by having a dedicated subsystem that sits idle when RT isn't used, unless I'm misunderstanding their designs.
PS5 has a few others custom features. Also ID Buffer can be used in some TAA implementations to remove ghosting.
Great summary (and your previous posts) but how do we know PS5 Pro has RDNA2 Render-backs-ends?PS5: RDNA 2 raster + RDNA2 RT + RDNA1 Front-End +RDNA1 Render-Back-Ends
XSX: RDNA 2 raster + RDNA2 RT + RDNA1 Front-End +RDNA2 Render-Back-Ends
PS5 Pro: RDNA 2 raster (RDNA 3 Geometry Engine) + RDNA4 RT + 300TOPS(8bit) , 66.7TFLOPS(16bit) for AI+ RDNA2 Render-Back-Ends
If you compare die space vs die space then Nvidia usually comes out ahead. For example the 7800 XT is 346 mm² vs the 294 mm² of the 4070 Ti. Power usage is similar between the two but the 4070 Ti is usually faster and is a smaller chip. In the latest COD the 4070ti and 7800XT basically tie, but that 4070Ti chip is still smaller (with far less memory bandwidth as well). Another pure raster game that launched recently, Space Marine 2, has the 4070 Ti leasing by 23%. AMD of course wins when it comes to price, as Nvidia are charging a premium they know they can get away with.
But he is talking about software features, he is not saying ML hardware and RDNA2 VRS.
So you picked the one game where AMD has a significant advantage to make a broad generalization. Did I get this right?
But you can't you would have to compare spend on the die, so it is 'relative' in a true sense and not being able to offer interface connections, cache and vram and lithography levels that the competition can't. Ultimately Nvidia produce nothing that will be more power efficient and performant as the Pro, at the same size, and that's despite half the die space in a Pro being used by a CPU.
I used the one that has been refined and evolved over decades, where bad port accusations, or not pushing visuals can't be used, and being the biggest game in town would run better on Nvidia at pure raster if it possibly could given Nvidia own the dedicated card market and running best on Nvidia doesn't hurt the game's marketing.
….who knows lol.
