BenjaminBirdie
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You are my favorite person on Earth.
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Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign |OT| Welcome To Marvel [5m23s]!
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You are my favorite person on Earth.
Losing missions (retreating) seems to have no effect at all on mission point values. But it lowers the levels of enemies on all the missions.
The advantage isn't that it gets you more points (directly); it's that it lets you do missions faster and more easily. You get some gain out of rubber-banding doing this (because you can push your missions later in the session), but the main benefit is that you will always get all 9 missions done twice, no problems. You're never going to leave points on the table because a mission is too difficult.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
lol oh my GOD dude I did it three times and now IX went from Jugs/Ares/Moonstone, all 230, to Jugs and two Muscles, all at 40.
I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS
XD
That's probably a bug, actually. The characters shouldn't change, and it shouldn't go down that fast. Edit: Like how sometimes on the second Hunt the missions would revert to what they were for the first Hunt with Modern Hawkeye rewards. Just a weird thing that happens sometimes.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Yeah, I just noticed the prizes are also completely different.
Shit, and I just restarted. I really should have gotten that 96 while I could.
DAMN! Back to normal. Just checked.
EDIT: Yeah, did 8. Last mission is only lowered to like 177.
EDIT EDIT: Hooo boy yeah you gotta do these a LOT of times. Just clearing out my whole bench and see where it gets me .
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
WWWWWWELP. Ended up in 2nd (unless some ghost came out of nowhere in the end, 3rd place was like 50-60 away), but if I'd used the Gotchaye Method the whole time I'd have easily won it. He's totally right. It's an incredible approach.
To really make a dent, though, you have to do it ALOT and have a super deep bench to sacrifice to the Gods of Puzzle Quest. This new sub event, I just won't be able to compete that well because of the timing (not to mention maybe a whole new mission/subevent string when the Intel pops), so I don't really care, but this one was probably my best shot at a great finish, so I'm glad I got two Patchies.
THANK YOU GOTCHAYE.
To really make a dent, though, you have to do it ALOT and have a super deep bench to sacrifice to the Gods of Puzzle Quest. This new sub event, I just won't be able to compete that well because of the timing (not to mention maybe a whole new mission/subevent string when the Intel pops), so I don't really care, but this one was probably my best shot at a great finish, so I'm glad I got two Patchies.
THANK YOU GOTCHAYE.
Duane Cunningham
Member
Wow. I HAVE been doing these subs wrong. And how often do the points refresh?
Overslept and woke up literally 10 minutes before the end of the sub event and I was only on 20 points. Good thing I tanked enough that my final mission was only level 40 guys.
Quickly tried to beat as many battles possible, still had to skip the one with bullseye and daken because I was really worried they would eat up my time with their animations.
Still ended up coming 5th in my bracket only playing 10 minutes of this. Thank you rubberbanding!
Also the new tourney looks very tempting but you'd have to be top 100 to make a profit on it and since this is unbracketed that means top 100 in the world. Maybe if I had more level 100 3 star teams I'd feel more confident. As of now though I really don't think I'll be top 100. Just seems like that the majority of people are going to lose HP entering this while the top guys clean up.
Quickly tried to beat as many battles possible, still had to skip the one with bullseye and daken because I was really worried they would eat up my time with their animations.
Still ended up coming 5th in my bracket only playing 10 minutes of this. Thank you rubberbanding!
Also the new tourney looks very tempting but you'd have to be top 100 to make a profit on it and since this is unbracketed that means top 100 in the world. Maybe if I had more level 100 3 star teams I'd feel more confident. As of now though I really don't think I'll be top 100. Just seems like that the majority of people are going to lose HP entering this while the top guys clean up.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Each individual mission refreshes 8 hours from when you finish your first win of it.
DangerousDave
Member
I'm not sure that this is true on this event. I ended 1st playing only one mission yesterday, a couple of missions 12 hours ago and 15 missions on the last 2 hours of the event. If missions were resetting each 8 hours, i would have lost too many points to be first. I did most of the missions once, and the most expensive ones, 3 or 4 times.
Missions recharge over time, all of them, until they reach the top. And when you win a mission, all the missions lose a few points, and the mission that you won lose a lot of points. So, let the biggest mission to recharge, win it. Wait, check what is now the biggest mission, win it. Lose missions to lower the level of the enemies. When the event is going to finish (2 hours left), play missions, always the biggest one (always exiting and entering to get the score updated), without caring about how many times did you won each mission, until all the scores are 1.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
I don't know, that sounds like regular rubber banding with three 8 hour cycles to me.
platypotamus
Member
Did that get fixed? Just retreated four times and any everyone is still level 143
Thor and Wolverine** changes....
http://www.d3pforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2636
I hope we can repec pretty soon.
Also no MORE 20 iso!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they're gonna up it to 100 to 200 iso for PvP.
Its a little tougher now. Killing off my roster is faster way to level down.
http://www.d3pforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2636
I hope we can repec pretty soon.
Also no MORE 20 iso!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they're gonna up it to 100 to 200 iso for PvP.
Its a little tougher now. Killing off my roster is faster way to level down.
I was pretty much over Thor. It's the Wolverine nerf that will hurt me more.
Oh well. It's not that bad, the major nerf to his healing kind of surprised me.
I don't have the patience for it, but people are saying you need to retreat 5-10 times to see results.
Some have reported that you just routinely retreat after every win and it works just as well.
Oh well. It's not that bad, the major nerf to his healing kind of surprised me.
I don't have the patience for it, but people are saying you need to retreat 5-10 times to see results.
Some have reported that you just routinely retreat after every win and it works just as well.
Thor and Wolverine** changes....
http://www.d3pforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2636
I hope we can repec pretty soon.
Also no MORE 20 iso!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they're gonna up it to 100 to 200 iso for PvP.
Seems like pretty decent changes to me.
Good that they're actually communicating with the player base about this too, especially by explaining the reasoning behind each balance change.
I feel pretty good about moving to Patch now. His green is only a little more expensive and his yellow is much better.
I quite like the Thor changes. The yellow is a little crazy, and I'm tempted to bring him along with Patch, though I probably won't. My Thor is 5/4/3 and I have a green in storage. I guess the best build now is 3/5/5, but the yellow is more important so I'm not sure what to do.
I quite like the Thor changes. The yellow is a little crazy, and I'm tempted to bring him along with Patch, though I probably won't. My Thor is 5/4/3 and I have a green in storage. I guess the best build now is 3/5/5, but the yellow is more important so I'm not sure what to do.
shaowebb
Member
iceIX said:
O_O
I think he just let a new character slip...
Also for a moment I was "oh god no" with the Thor changes when I saw the massive damage changes to yellow and red. Especially red also yielding less AP. Then I noticed his yellow ability now generates MORE AP and his green has been buffed a pretty good amount in damage as an ability. So now rather than the act of battery-ing itself being a damage thing it is to feed a single other damage attack...not the cycle itself. Plus the ability to create so much green tells me of SEVERAL team changes.
Thor/Daken =BUFFED. More green means more strike tiles. You'll fill up and run out of red tiles quick though and I dont believe he can make tiles once they are gone.
Thor/Storm=SUPER BUFFED...her green lightning storm is the main battery tool in the game now and the second one now feeds it more than ever. Cascades for days off this team.
Thor/Hulk=BUFFED. Better battery for Hulk than ever.
Thor/Wolvie=NERFED. You yield more green but Wolverine's green is nerfed a good deal in damage output and the fact that Thor needs Red now to feed himself to fuel his yellow to be able to cast his green means that you wont generally get to use Adamantium Slash even though it got buffs at its price now. You'd be better off fueling Thor's yellow in hopes of nailing a green ability from Thor to hit everyone rather than fuel Adamantium slash. This means Thor-verine isn't really that great anymore as Wolverine is impeding Thor's cycle for lower yield IMO.
Thor/Patch=BUFFED. Patch is a beast and more green to this degree will get insane. Hello new Thor/verine
Thor/Ares=BUFFED. Green is gooooood to have on hand as Ares does 24 damage for each green your team has at higher levels and its not that costly since it only costs 5 green to do it. It drains the tank but Thor will make it hurt like hell pretty easily off a single Yellow ability.
My team will likely be some combination of Thor/Storm/Daken till I can run Thor/Patch/Storm
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Man yeah I read that and was like 0_0
shaowebb
Member
lol...I posted a thread on it in the characters section on their site. Thought it'd be good for a laugh.
I still think there is good synergy with Wolvy/Thor.
Wolvy's red is now the superior damage dealer between the two and you need to make yellow matches to feed Wolvy's healing power.
If you max lvl Wolvy and keep Thor a few levels below him, Wolvy can even act as a tank for Thor (with the ability to heal).
Wolvy's red is now the superior damage dealer between the two and you need to make yellow matches to feed Wolvy's healing power.
If you max lvl Wolvy and keep Thor a few levels below him, Wolvy can even act as a tank for Thor (with the ability to heal).
shaowebb
Member
Wolvy has to lose half his health and then you have to pop yellow to heal him though. That changes what you can and cant expect out of his annual heal as a tank. Honestly I think Thor's green ability is so strong now that its the better damage option so I'd more than likely spend red on Thor's red in hopes of setting up his cycle quicker to net me into that green damage that covers their whole team in over 1000.
Im betting we some some crazy Thor/Storm teamups though now that he yield insano green. Her green ability pops a TON and him giving her 9 green on the board means that she will likely be ready the moment he does that. She can fuel HIM now. If anyone else can setup yellow tiles for Thor on a team that'd be your go to third to create an endless cascade team.
the nerfs are a lots smaller than I expected... wolverine got a pretty good neuter, but thor on the other hand... those green tiles on that yellow move.... crazy you could get 9 of them.... I might have to level up daken to replace my wolverine now.
or just level up my patch and run with him
edit: it seems wolverine might get tiles at 3 ap instead of 5 now, just not listed properly as his line says he creates more faster but it was set to the same in the notes.
or just level up my patch and run with him
edit: it seems wolverine might get tiles at 3 ap instead of 5 now, just not listed properly as his line says he creates more faster but it was set to the same in the notes.
Doomshroom
Member
Also no MORE 20 iso!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they're gonna up it to 100 to 200 iso for PvP.
Its for Pvp so rewards were never 20 it was 70 or 140 and i think now it will be 70, 100, 140 or 200 still more Iso is always nice.
DangerousDave
Member
I did the same, but now I'm regretting it because I got few points on the last missions. At least they're repeatable, so I'll wait until they grow their score, to repeat them.
I hoped that there was a DareDevil to get with the unlock, like the Hulk of the Hulk event... but no. I wonder if someone already got any DareDevil from random heroic cards...
shaowebb
Member
They haven't nerfed Thor-verine yet and it makes the current event really easy since Wolverine is buffed. If you want an easy Daredevil DO NOT fight until the last hour or so. The hood is worth like 2000 then 1000 and most of the rest are worth 500 on the progression ladder. A quick pass through the tourney should put you well over 35 even if you skipped a few fights. Load up on yellow/red the all AP and on widow matches the blue/purple to insure you can deal with the ridiculous timer scams the matches have like in the lvl 230 maggia muscle+bullseye one and its cake. You'll net over 4000 on this in iso effortlessly.
Great event so far. High yields abound. Plus I even got off the 2 star progression reward token another red Magneto!
Great event so far. High yields abound. Plus I even got off the 2 star progression reward token another red Magneto!
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
I can't stick with the tried and true Gotchaye Method anymore. It's super effective, of course, but I found that it really sucked the fun out of the game for me. It was all just following a list, gaming the system, etc. It works, but I just wasn't having as much fun. Playing matches I can beat, when I can beat them, getting what I can, it might not get me the super primo results, but it also doesn't feel like I'm chained to my iPad and not even having much fun when I'm doing it.
This morning, lol:
Standard Token - Punisher
Standard Token - Hulk
Heroic Token - Bullseye
You can't make this shit up.
This morning, lol:
Standard Token - Punisher
Standard Token - Hulk
Heroic Token - Bullseye
You can't make this shit up.
DangerousDave
Member
You're wrong.
I played though all the events once. Then, I waited until the hood was on 1000. I waited half an hour, and he remained at 1000, it seemed the new top. So I defeated again. And, because it was my second fight, he went back to 1.
Ok. Now, hours later, it's again at 919 (edit, now 935). So, probably is increasing over time up to 1000, each 8 hours. So, if you wait until the end, you'll get only 3000 points. I'll get 1000 points each 8 hours.
Also, i have 2 other events at 935, that I already played. So probably I can play more than one 1000 mission each 8 hours. If you wait until the end, you'll get less points. You'll be "un-using" the growing of the levels during 60 hours.
I wish I had your luck with standard tokens. I always seem to get M Storm, M Black Widow, and Mk 35 Iron Man.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Wow! Those fights are refreshing?? That 20000 prize is a lock!
shaowebb
Member
Holy shit for real?! Well in that case I'm gonna go and trounce him until he spawns his rewards again. Thanks for setting me straight on this one! Didn't know about the refresh.
EDIT:
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Can anyone give me a reason I shouldn't just sell all three?
shaowebb
Member
WHOA...they repriced the AP store. It now costs 100 HP to buy the 3 all AP boost and 200 iso to buy the 2 color AP boosts. No more starting with a power fully loaded on a battery to setup cascades and TOD match intros.
EDIT: I like how they sped up passive abilities that used to slow matches down. Just a quick text flies by that says "Healing and Heat" or something and you are back at it. This will help in tourneys near the end.
EDIT: I like how they sped up passive abilities that used to slow matches down. Just a quick text flies by that says "Healing and Heat" or something and you are back at it. This will help in tourneys near the end.
That's... concerning. I understand making boosts harder to come by, and that's in keeping with their wanting to slow the game down (which I understand even if I don't really agree with it), but HP for the best boost is awfully pay-to-win.
I also see that Wolverine and Thor sell for quite a bit right now. I think I'll probably sell Wolverine, at least, since I'd want to rebuild him 5/5/3 anyway and since from here on out I'd probably only be using him when he's buffed (and with their new diminishing return buffs a max level character is rather wasteful). Both together would net me 55k ISO, which is an awful lot of Patch levels.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Was thinking the exact same thing. I get a bunch of his covers all the time and respeccing is a ways out.
EDIT: Just sold both. This feeling is so alien to me. Never sold covers before. Feel so .icky .
shaowebb
Member
Im also looking at selling Wolverine after running him and Thor for awhile to test things. He only places a decent amount of tiles now if you stockpile red...which you can't do if you want Thor's amazing yellow ability to happen quickly so that you can rack up some green for whatever you need it for.
Problem is my best options are ALL Dark Avengers like Ares, and Daken and those get blocked to me in tournies a lot. My Wolverine sells for about 11000 iso and 300hp. Any ideas for a good Tank. Here's my options.
(¬､¬)...hmm
Think I should just say to hell with it and power level Daken or Storm anyways? They'll only gain about 10 to 12 levels out of this. I could dump it into Thor and just ride out Storm/Daken for whatever they could manage with him too. Not really certain how to handle this scenario.
shaowebb
Member
After checking the wikia breakdown of every character in the game's level by level attack power, crit, and health I'm going Daken. To hell with it. If I have to skip him I'll just fodder chuck in Juggs and kill for points and heal him.
http://marvelpuzzlequest.wikia.com/wiki/Daken_(Dark_Avengers_Wolverine)
This site is reaaaaaally useful.^
EDIT: WOO! Spent 100 of that HP from selling wolverine on the daily deal and got my blue skill Spidey!
http://marvelpuzzlequest.wikia.com/wiki/Daken_(Dark_Avengers_Wolverine)
This site is reaaaaaally useful.^
EDIT: WOO! Spent 100 of that HP from selling wolverine on the daily deal and got my blue skill Spidey!
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
I'm getting confused with all these changes and this god awful event. It's sort of killing it for me now.
DangerousDave
Member
Damn. That was very useful to fight against Dakken. Starting with 6 green and 6 red allowed me to start with 4 red strike tiles and ony a match away to start the party with Thor red skill.
Now it will be way more difficult to defeat dakken before getting the board full of enemy strike tiles.
I'll have to go to sleep in an hour and I don't know if I should play a few "global mission" matches, even if they're not at full score, or wait until tomorrow. It depend of the score growing time.
They really don't have any clue about the monetization of the game. Really. The cost of buying ISO with real money is too high (specially when you check how many ISO you need to level a character up to level 85), the cost of paying skills with HP is too high, adding HP cost to consumables that don't guarantee to win a single match is too risky (shield is understable, because you spend HP, but in order to guarantee a certain place on the leatherboard that will return some HP). Everything is wrong.
I have already a 5/5/3 and is still ok, specially if you wait for 12 red before using the skill. But Patch is way better (at least, meanwhile is buged). As it should be, of course. I find normal that 3-star chars to have better skills than 2-star ones, and not having to choose better skills but lower level cap vs same (or worse) skills, but higher level cap.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
WOW!! That sell off was the best thing I ever did. I was poking around for new powerhouses and threw MN Mags in against some Maggia because why not and HOLY MOLY he DEMOLISHED.
A bunch of attack tiles? Okay! Bye! Along with every other tile on the screen!
HELLO, NEW ATTACK DOG. THOR WHO?
A bunch of attack tiles? Okay! Bye! Along with every other tile on the screen!
HELLO, NEW ATTACK DOG. THOR WHO?
I quite mind the boost repricing... it's likely going to cut my gameplay time quite a bit as I likely won't even bother with PVP tournies anymore and will only do some bare min pve during big stories.. I was always boosted because I preferred a much faster pacing.... the price I paid was that my heroes didn't really level, now if I want a face pace I have to pay money period...
I am not going to do a ton of slow battles so yeah... I after the current stuff I am likely only going to do dailys and hope others do as well to drop player numbers so they revert things back like they did shield pricing.
shaowebb
Member
After fighting Hood/Mags today I already knew that Magneto at any cost is worth max leveling. His red skill is stupidly cheap and wrecks things. Then the blue and purple on top of that equate to the most insane cascades, damage and screen control since pre-patch Ragnarok.
Mines only got 2 red. Soooooooooon though...
keep in mind that magneto is one of the next characters getting nerfed so don't pour to much into him.
edit: and in general I think I am done with this horrid PVE event aside from my daily match to get my daily reward....
this is terrible... it feels like a mmo now... just grind and grind and grind to barely get anywhere.
Ooof, the nerf of Wolverine has really hurt the time it takes for me to kill anything now. Plus lowering the rate that boosts drop while making the +3 cost HP really sucks. It's so dumb that they were open and communicative with the balance changes but then secretly add these price changes. How not to build goodwill lesson right here.
I have no idea how to build my team and might just wait for a new meta to form then copy that.
Sold my **Wolverine and Thor then used it all to level my Punisher up to lvl 112. My 2nd slot remains OBW.
Now I just need a 3rd slot and my choices currently are a lvl 85 Hawkeye, a lvl 75 Ares, a lvl 66 The Hulk, a lvl 52 Spider-Man or a lvl 41 Magneto.
I have no idea how to build my team and might just wait for a new meta to form then copy that.
Sold my **Wolverine and Thor then used it all to level my Punisher up to lvl 112. My 2nd slot remains OBW.
Now I just need a 3rd slot and my choices currently are a lvl 85 Hawkeye, a lvl 75 Ares, a lvl 66 The Hulk, a lvl 52 Spider-Man or a lvl 41 Magneto.
Seems to me like Ares fits in really well. He gives you yellow, and his yellow benefits from being on a team with a healer, plus he gives you another option for a red if you happen to collect a bunch of AP while the enemy still has two or three guys left.
Absoludacrous
Member
What's the best build for original black widow? I was thinking 3/5/5, but I wasn't sure.
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