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[Hagi]

Right?!


Let's talk about SUPERIOR Spider-Man, then.

Not really but I'm not the type to hate on people for enjoying books that I think are trash so you do you my friend.

I enjoyed Otto as Spidey for a hot minute but I was glad when everything went to shit and Peter had to come back and fix his fuck up.

 

[Lothars]

Cyclops is one of the best marvel characters in the comics. I've been a fan of him for decades.

 

[MartyStu]

Not really but I'm not the type to hate on people for enjoying books that I think are trash so you do you my friend.

I enjoyed Otto as Spidey for a hot minute but I was glad when everything went to shit and Peter had to come back and fix his fuck up.

And then the book took a nosedive in quality.

 

[Hagi]

And then the book took a nosedive in quality.

The book was already on a downward swing on the run up to the end of Superior, it happens all the time with Slott. We're back up high now and in like 10 issues it'll hit rock bottom again. Rinse and repeat.

His Silver Surfer is in such a different league it must be ghost written.

 

[PsychBat!]

And then the book took a nosedive in quality.

Peter came back then we had a boring ass arc with Black Cat and an event tie-in. Then Spider-Verse happens and then absolutely nothing.

I miss SpOck.

At least I got Silk and Miguel.

 

[Kaiterra]

X the Unknowable, you thought you could avoid death by hiding in publishing limbo for the majority of the past 50 years, but this Fall, your number is up!

 

[Big Green Anus]

Is Marvel doing this due to not owning the X-Men movie license?

 

[Nesotenso]

I am kinda sad at the state of the Xbooks after all this inhuman and Bendis bullshit.

 

[The Kree]

Is Marvel doing this due to not owning the X-Men movie license?

LOL

 

[Alavard]

Cyclops is one of the best marvel characters in the comics. I've been a fan of him for decades.

If only marvel loved him half as much as you do...

 

[Neoxon]

I think what has people concerned is what happened the last time Marvel teased the end of a franchise in a similar manner.

 

[roflwaffles]

Marvel's treatment of the X-Men is an allegory for big corporations trying to decimate minorities for profit.

 

[foxuzamaki]

He has the Pheonix force, well 1/5th of it

Does the pheonix force give you custom clothes or did he feel the need to dress to impress because of it

 

[Supermanisdead]

Does the pheonix force give you custom clothes or did he feel the need to dress to impress because of it

yes the pheonix force always gives u sexy hot clothes

 

[Palette Swap]

To be fair, I have very fond memories of another time the X-Men died.

It might be my favorite X-era, but that says probably more about my age than anything else.

 

[foxuzamaki]

yes the pheonix force always gives u sexy hot clothes

Nice

 

[Rymuth]

CBR is in a meltdown right now.

Not a reader of comics but I do love reading CBR whenever something like this happens. The meltdowns can be visceral and entertaining to watch unfold.

 

[Exodust]

I am raw like sushi, genuine like Gucchi

Lame like Poochie.

Spoiler

CYCLOPS

WAS

RIGHT

 

[Number_6]

Peter came back then we had a boring ass arc with Black Cat and an event tie-in. Then Spider-Verse happens and then absolutely nothing.

I miss SpOck.

At least I got Silk and Miguel.

Hey now. Peter has his own company now, he's wealthy, he travels the world, his neighborhood got bigger! Even better, he still finds time to boss and lecture the other Spideys, like Miguel and Miles, in their own books! What's not to love? /s

Seriously, I've read very little of the new Amazing, but I have read some of new 2099 and Miles' new book. I did not dig 2099, especially when Peter shows up and is all like "I'm your boss, don't do stuff I don't like, wear this ugly white costume." Then in the new Miles book, Peter shows up again like "Maybe you shouldn't be Spider-Man. I know I said you could but now I'm suddenly saying you can't even though you saved the day."

I know neither of these cases is Slott writing, but I just haven't really liked Peter since like, Spider-Island, when Kaine got his own book and showed me some real Spider-Fun again, while Peter goes around with his stupid, redundant, whiny, sad-sack "no one dies" mantra.

Edit:

On topic, I don't care if they kill all X-Men. They have been such a damn mess for so long. Schism was kind of neat with the two flagship books, I was liking the Blue Team book, porn faces aside, but then events ruined it all. Seems like we can't have a status quo for more than a year before everything gets changed and rebooted. Now they are facing situations that have already been done better in past storylines. Screw it. Ultimatum/M-Day/a pox on them all and start fresh with all new (or young and underused) mutants in a year and just one team, one book.

 

[Bronx-Man]

I think what has people concerned is what happened the last time Marvel teased the end of a franchise in a similar manner.

I'd bet $100 the Fantastic Four will be back in 2018.

 

[Neoxon]

I'd bet $100 the Fantastic Four will be back in 2018.

If Fox gives the Fantastic Four rights back to Marvel Studios by 2018, then certainly.

 

[DR2K]

Wow they're really going out of their way to fuck over the Xmen.

 

[Angelus Errare]

can't cosign a dude that got bodied by Mimic and the Canadian Mimic

But...you cosign Cyclops who got bodied by Storm without powers.

 

[Sou Da]

Right?!


Let's talk about SUPERIOR Spider-Man, then.

Not really but I'm not the type to hate on people for enjoying books that I think are trash so you do you my friend.

I enjoyed Otto as Spidey for a hot minute but I was glad when everything went to shit and Peter had to come back and fix his fuck up.

And then the book took a nosedive in quality.

Peter came back then we had a boring ass arc with Black Cat and an event tie-in. Then Spider-Verse happens and then absolutely nothing.

I miss SpOck.

At least I got Silk and Miguel.

Y'all really loved a book that required every single person around Ock to be an idiot for it's concept to work.

 

[bengraven]

Anything to bring back a normal status quo. The X-men without some of the major characters like Prof X and Jean is like Batman without Alfred.

 

[Sou Da]

Anything to bring back a normal status quo. The X-men without some of the major characters like Prof X and Jean is like Batman without Alfred.

Good god no. Prof X always sucked and the worst thing Marvel did recently was bring back Jean.

 

[bengraven]

Good god no. Prof X always sucked and the worst thing Marvel did recently was bring back Jean.

Young Jean is a huge improvement over old Jean. Sure she's not perfect, but that's a part of her character. She USED to be perfect. And that was boring.

The book needs an X-men second series #1 moment or something. We need a main big team that's actually doing something for mutants instead of pissing and moaning about being paramilitary. That can be a secondary X-force book with Cyke leading his crew.

 

[Neoxon]

Couldn't this just be an explanation on how Cyclops died during the 8-Month Time-Skip?

 

[Toa TAK]

Y'all really loved a book that required every single person around Ock to be an idiot for it's concept to work.

But it worked!

 

[Sou Da]

Young Jean is a huge improvement over old Jean. Sure she's not perfect, but that's a part of her character. She USED to be perfect. And that was boring.

The book needs an X-men second series #1 moment or something. We need a main big team that's actually doing something for mutants instead of pissing and moaning about being paramilitary. That can be a secondary X-force book with Cyke leading his crew.

This doesn't matter if there are no consequences to her actions.

 

[FaustsBoon]

If Fox gives the Fantastic Four rights back to Marvel Studios by 2018, then certainly.

What ever came of that notable set of rumors that suggested Fox would finally give up the FF rights in exchange for X-men TV rights?

I mean... those rumors made a lot of rounds, and then a few months later, boom, we get those two FX shows put into production.

I think the almost impossibly epic flop of Fantastic Four (2014) had to have been that brand's filmic death-knell until a proper Marvel Studios reboot. Plus, God help us... with how Marvel Studios loves cuckolding, or outright killing villains, they urgently need access to Doom-swag and Galactus for a Phase 4.

 

[bengraven]

This doesn't matter if there are no consequences to her actions.

They're building to that or else Bendis WAS. Her fellow (or should I say former) team mates from the original 5 as well as Emma have basically hinted at that.

 

[The Kree]

What ever came of that notable set of rumors that suggested Fox would finally give up the FF rights in exchange for X-men TV rights?

I mean... those rumors made a lot of rounds, and then a few months later, boom, we get those two FX shows put into production.

I think the almost impossibly epic flop of Fantastic Four (2014) had to have been that brand's filmic death-knell until a proper Marvel Studios reboot. Plus, God help us... with how Marvel Studios loves cuckolding, or outright killing villains, they urgently need access to Doom-swag and Galactus for a Phase 4.

There were no rumors. There was only speculation based on the wishful thinking of annoying and desperate fanboys who run blogs pretending to be news websites with imaginary inside sources.

 

[FaustsBoon]

There were no rumors. There was only speculation based on the wishful thinking of annoying and desperate fanboys who run blogs pretending to be news websites with imaginary inside sources.

And yet... those X-men universe TV rights did somehow happen, despite toxic animosity between Fox and Marvel. Something had to justify Marvel giving Fox further access, rather than just telling them to fuck-off?

 

[Deleted member 10571]

I think I'd be fine with X-Men being killed off. There are really not many I like ¯\_(&#12484_/¯ Most of them are dicks like, all the time.

That said, I don't care much about Inhumans either.

 

[TAJ]

Hey now. Peter has his own company now, he's wealthy, he travels the world

Coasting on Otto's steam.

To be fair, I have very fond memories of another time the X-Men died.

For like one page. Didn't they only really kill Cypher in that whole event?

 

[PsychBat!]

Hey now. Peter has his own company now, he's wealthy, he travels the world, his neighborhood got bigger! Even better, he still finds time to boss and lecture the other Spideys, like Miguel and Miles, in their own books! What's not to love? /s

I actually do love New CEO Peter. It's a new status quo for him and I hope it sticks.

 

[Hagi]

I actually do love New CEO Peter. It's a new status quo for him and I hope it sticks.

It's not going to stick. I'll be surprised if he's not back to being a bum by this time next year. Slott has built him up so high I'd say it's inevitable he's going to chop him back down to size.

I'd hope for Peter to become a family man again now that Miles is in the main universe and there's a hundred other spider characters running round New York..

 

[PsychBat!]

It's not going to stick. I'll be surprised if he's not back to being a bum by this time next year. Slott has built him up so high I'd say it's inevitable he's going to chop him back down to size.

I'd hope for Peter to become a family man again now that Miles is in the main universe and there's a hundred other spider characters running round New York..

I agree that Slott has put Peter up extremely high when it comes to making his civilian side as successful as possible. I just hope that it doesn't come down to that.

 

[kswiston]

I agree that Slott has put Peter up extremely high when it comes to making his civilian side as successful as possible. I just hope that it doesn't come down to that.

"Taking Spider-man back to his roots!" will be uttered by someone at Marvel within the next 5 years.

 

[Deleted member 10571]

It's not going to stick. I'll be surprised if he's not back to being a bum by this time next year. Slott has built him up so high I'd say it's inevitable he's going to chop him back down to size.

I'd hope for Peter to become a family man again now that Miles is in the main universe and there's a hundred other spider characters running round New York..

I would almost bet money on some huge MJ return arc later this year, maybe next. That one book during Secret Wars sold gangbusters and there's gonna be official new Marvel movie Spiderman, plus - as you said - Miles is there for all your young Spidey needs.

While CEO Spidey is fun for a while, the MU already has way too many "young mastermind technician CEO" types, and I just can't see Pete staying in that role. He'll lose his shit, he'll be rock bottom, MJ will be there for him, Mephistos spell will be broken.

 

[SRG01]

I would almost bet money on some huge MJ return arc later this year, maybe next. That one book during Secret Wars sold gangbusters and there's gonna be official new Marvel movie Spiderman, plus - as you said - Miles is there for all your young Spidey needs.

While CEO Spidey is fun for a while, the MU already has way too many "young mastermind technician CEO" types, and I just can't see Pete staying in that role. He'll lose his shit, he'll be rock bottom, MJ will be there for him, Mephistos spell will be broken.

The problem with bringing Spidey 'back to his roots' is that he's easily written into a corner in those scenarios. There's very little character development by retreading old ground.

If anything, they should continue to put Spidey into new and unfamiliar roles. I'm actually surprised they haven't pushed an angle similar to the Ultimate Spider-Man TV series.

 

[Palette Swap]

For like one page. Didn't they only really kill Cypher in that whole event?

Yeah, pretty much, although I'm still pissed about Doug's death.
Still, I really liked how desperate the event itself was, including Storm's team's "sacrifice" and the Horsemen in X-Factor, and I loved the subsequent status quo with everyone thinking the X-Men were dead.

It wasn't as brutal as Mutant Massacre though. Counting these two and Messiah Complex, my favorite X-events are the ones where they're on the ropes.

 

[Escape Goat]

"Taking Spider-man back to his roots!" will be uttered by someone at Marvel within the next 5 years.

Exploring new aspects of a character and then deconstructing them is what every writing team has done since the characters creation.

 

[Rhaknar]

I think what has people concerned is what happened the last time Marvel teased the end of a franchise in a similar manner.

that run was very vanilla and very safe, but it wasnt terrible by any means :/

 

[IrishNinja]

Probably going to be a reveal of what happened to Cyclops when he challenged the Inhumans.

We can probably guess what happened though.

ahhh so this hasn't yet been revealed? cause we lept forward in ANADM and whatever went down to make mutants hated again/cyk presumably dead has been referenced numerous times, i was just starting to think i'd missed it somewhere...god knows i bailed on most events post schism

 

[Dysun]

Sad to see the X-Men get shit on constantly, even if this isn't the end for them.

Creative certainly sees them as a lesser priority

 

[MHWilliams]

I'd bet $100 the Fantastic Four will be back in 2018.

How long was Thor gone for? 4 years? 3 years?

ahhh so this hasn't yet been revealed? cause we lept forward in ANADM and whatever went down to make mutants hated again/cyk presumably dead has been referenced numerous times, i was just starting to think i'd missed it somewhere...god knows i bailed on most events post schism

Nope. Hasn't been revealed and everyone is talking around it, even though no one does that in real life.

 

[Concept17]

I'd be super okay with no more Xmen or Fantastic Four, ever.

I'd be even happier if Deadpool killed them all.

 

[Sandfox]

I'd be super okay with no more Xmen or Fantastic Four, ever.

I'd be even happier if Deadpool killed them all.

I don't trust that Beast fella.