Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster Discussion Thread

enzo_gt said:
This Strider/Morrigan offense is nasty. Easily the most experienced looking play.

Expectedly, people are still using Infinity Storm like X-Factor. Going to take a while for the adjustment.


DBZF is also slotting characters into engine, graphics etc. they've used in several titles/updated now. It's virtually DBZF characters in Xrd with gameplay parameters and UI tweaked.


I'm hoping either tonight or tomorrow the MvC guys get on Giantbomb's stream so Jeff can ask them those questions, which I'm sure he would because they usually go right for it.
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lol, are you going to compare using a GAME ENGINE to copy/pasting characters? Give me a break Enzo.

Rhaknar said:
there is a huge difference, its a very valid point. But at the end of the day, that matters to who exactly? Game reviewers?

"this game got docked 2 points because it reuses assests"

When we have the games, one will have X number of characters, the other will have Y number of characters. When you are deep in playing games, are you really thinking "well these models are brand new so I dont mind if its bad"?

Im not saying DBZF will be bad btw lol, I've already said its literally a dream game for me. But in a tournament setting, in a match at home, what does it matter if its reused assets or not?

Thats my big issue with all this, but I still maintain that some people are deadset on shitting on the game from day one, and they will continue to shit on the game no matter how good (or not) it ends up being.

And the craziest thing is, this divide of "fuck marvel im getting DBZ" when the games are going to be like... 8 months apart? More? O_o
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Uh, it matters to me and everyone else who bought UMvC3, because MvCi is basically buying the game a second time and cutting the roster in half. lol

If MvCi rehashed ALL of the UMvC3 assets and added 20 new characters, that would be GREAT. AWESOME. It's not about the rehash itself, but that they rehashed the characters, cut the roster in half, and everything looks much much worse.

That said, Jedah guarantees I will purchase this game unless they mess him up. Morrigan is looking incredibly boring right now.

Kashiwaba said:
The game doesn't look bad, what's bad is that capcom is using the in game models for the cutscenes so they look bad, while a game like Injustice 2 i think used better models for the cutscenes.
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The game is a step down visually in every way from UMvC3.
 
Karsticles said:
lol, are you going to compare using a GAME ENGINE to copy/pasting characters? Give me a break Enzo.



Uh, it matters to me and everyone else who bought UMvC3, because MvCi is basically buying the game a second time and cutting the roster in half. lol

If MvCi rehashed ALL of the UMvC3 assets and added 20 new characters, that would be GREAT. AWESOME. It's not about the rehash itself, but that they rehashed the characters, cut the roster in half, and everything looks much much worse.

That said, Jedah guarantees I will purchase this game unless they mess him up. Morrigan is looking incredibly boring right now.


The game is a step down visually in every way from UMvC3.
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That's a very big bullshit yes it looks worse art style wise but the models, backgrounds, effects ... Look way better technically than anything in UMvC 3.
 
its unfair to compare any game to the Xrd team games because those cats use blood sacrifice and black magic to achieve those graphics.

We are all going straight to hell because we enjoy them.

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Sorcery I tell you!
 
Risero said:
This is bullshit. The models(with some exceptions), textures, backgrounds, and effects are all big technical step up
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So you are just trolling right? Your memory must be failing you of how good MVC3 looked. This game is damn near a downgrade in every way especially visually.
 
Neonep said:
So you are just trolling right? Your memory must be failing you of how good MVC3 looked. This game is damn near a downgrade in every way especially visually.
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It might not look as well due to lack of style and chromatic abberation but on a technical perspective it's an upgrade. Objectively better textures, models, and backgrounds
 
If we are on the subject of reusing assets, SFV was made hella fast. 16 characters from scratch, no wonder the game lacked content.
 
Marvel Infinite does have better detail, textures and polygons. That's probably an objective truth, it is technically the more demanding the game.

But if it looks like a phone game aesthetically... who cares how many polygons each character has or what the resolution of the textures are?
 
Rhaknar said:
its unfair to compare any game to the Xrd team games because those cats use blood sacrifice and black magic to achieve those graphics.

We are all going straight to hell because we enjoy them.

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Sorcery I tell you!
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Just get Arcsys to make a Hellsing fighter and I'll finally be satisfied.. That shit would be rated M though....
 
Dahbomb said:
Marvel Infinite does have better detail, textures and polygons. That's probably an objective truth, it is technically the more demanding the game.

But if it looks like a phone game aesthetically... who cares how many polygons each character has or what the resolution of the textures are?
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My man. Pretty much. Also the presentation of the game is shot. From the UI to the HUD, they all look boring.
 
Neonep said:
Gotta get Arcsys to make a One Piece game and a Naruto game and a Yu-Yu Hakusho game and a Digimon game..... You see where I'm going with this.
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as hyped as I am for the DBZ, a One Piece game would have been 100 times better, if only because the cast is so much more diverse in its powers and look.

:(
 
Rhaknar said:
its unfair to compare any game to the Xrd team games because those cats use blood sacrifice and black magic to achieve those graphics.

We are all going straight to hell because we enjoy them.

tumblr_opae4hPRcG1r7sijxo1_500.gif


Sorcery I tell you!
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As much as i like their art style, yet i think it looks bad in motion. Though i can see they are improving when it comes to that from what I've seen in DBZ videos.
 
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too lazy to do other moves but his mvci j.HP looks the same as his mvci st.HP which is strange 'cuz his marvel 3 ver looks like.
unibeam is especially anemic looking which is bizarre

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Rhaknar said:
as hyped as I am for the DBZ, a One Piece game would have been 100 times better, if only because the cast is so much more diverse in its powers and look.

:(
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jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus could you fucking imagine


the dream is this dbz game selling gangbusters and bandai namco just giving them all the big anime properties to make games out of
 
Anth0ny said:
jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus could you fucking imagine


the dream is this dbz game selling gangbusters and bandai namco just giving them all the big anime properties to make games out of
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Good luck making things like nico Robin, the haki system, Luffy's hard counter to Enel etc tourney viable.
 
Rhaknar said:
The fuck was that little hop in the air with the shotgun :o
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Shotgun Hike son. DMC1 tech.

But what's actually happening is that he's doing Shotgun into air dash into Shotgun again.


It doesn't fucking matter how much they gut, neuter, meth up, nerf or lower the hype/stylish factor of Dante... he's still gonna style on fools. GOAT fighting game character gonna be GOAT.
 
Sibersk Esto said:
Good luck making things like nico Robin, the haki system, Luffy's hard counter to Enel etc tourney viable.
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I really think if they can make DBZ stuff tourney viable they'll have no problem making One Piece stuff viable. Robin would be a zoning based character who can make her arms appear anywhere on the stage, haki would just be a special move for certain characters, and obviously stuff like Luffy's hard counter to Enel just wouldn't come up at all, or else a character like Pikachu would shit on Greninja in smash bros :P
 
Anime/comic/video game canon matters absolutely fuck all when it comes to fighting games.

You can be a god and still be low tier. You can be Yamcha and still be god tier.
 
Dahbomb said:
Shotgun Hike son. DMC1 tech.

But what's actually happening is that he's doing Shotgun into air dash into Shotgun again.


It doesn't fucking matter how much they gut, neuter, meth up, nerf or lower the hype/stylish factor of Dante... he's still gonna style on fools. GOAT fighting game character gonna be GOAT.
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Could you imagine having a charge shot with Nero in a MVC game. Jesus!! Now think about a DT charge shot.
 
Dahbomb said:
They should just delete Spencer from the game and put in Nero instead. Give him a real Bionic Arm.
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Indeed lol. Capcom pls..

Also I don't know if this was posted, but Rollback netcode was confirmed a couple months ago for MvC:i...
http://kotaku.com/marvel-vs-capcom-infinite-wants-even-newbies-to-have-a-1794685310
Once players have a firm grasp on the fundamentals, they can hop online and test their burgeoning skills against worldwide opponents, one-on-one or in lobbies, using Capcom’s proprietary rollback netcode. While netplay stood on shaky ground in the early days of Street Fighter V (which also utilized the in-house Kagemusha netcode), the developers are planning to forgo their own servers this time around in favor of the dedicated platforms provided by Sony and Microsoft, hopefully providing more stability for the community’s online warriors.
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Is this just coincidence for the Capcom default roster/story mode? Unconfirmed, Story Mode only?

Ryu, Chun Li
X, Zero, (Sigma might be an exception depending on how much he's in the story and if you fight him I guess)
Chris, Nemesis
Arthur, Firebrand
Strider, Meio
Hunter, Mohran
Morrigan, Jedah

so, should we expect to have duos (even if they're not playable) for:
Spencer, ??? (Maybe he'd be another exception, unless Super Joe or Groeder or something is in the story mode)
Dante, ??? (Lady?)

and if he's there and Playable:
Frank West, ??? (maybe one of the psychos in the story mode?)
Haggar/??? (Mad Gear gang member in story mode? Or Maybe Cody or Guy)
 
Played the demo last night and it is pretty.... not good. The art design and graphics do not feel up to snuff when things like Guilty Gear, Injustice, and hell, even SFV exist and look significantly better. The serious art direction they took makes seeing characters like Ryu and Meagan together look very jarring.
 
I wish it was DMC4 Dante too but I don't think anyone's surprised its DMC3 Dante. It is Capcom afterall.


Saying it looks visually worse in every way is a bit hyperbole. The detail itself in the character models is better, it's just that the design work on them looks hideous and the artstyle isn't a good fit for this game. So on a pure technical level, the detailing has improved but everything looks ugly from a design standpoint so it becomes a moot.
 
roflwaffles said:
I wish it was DMC4 Dante too but I don't think anyone's surprised its DMC3 Dante. It is Capcom afterall.
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Itsuno is the one that signs off on which DMC characters and what versions the MvC team can use. I don't want DMC4 Dante though. I wished for Dante with a cross-series move set with DMC3 Dante as the basis.
 
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