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[enzo_gt]

Honestly, characters like Thanos and Sentry feel like pretty boring inclusions to me from a gameplay perspective. Like, I get it, a lot of people are only really interested so they can buy it and look at the pretty Marvel characters on the screen, but most characters whose main powers are some combination of super strength, super stamina, energy projection, telekinesis feel like they need some sort of gimmick to make them stand out.

I think badass animation can turn a pretty basic moveset into someone cool/fun to play, like Nova in MvC3 (the red health thing barely made a dent in the metagame), but with a series of characters of this sort (and so far, Captain Marvel doesn't look like she has anything very unique gameplay wise, but it's too early to tell) I don't want the roster to suffer gameplay-wise. Cosmic Marvel is especially shitty in this regard because everyone's stats are cranked to 11 and the main actors have various permutations of those same abilities. I remember fake 4chan rumours about Nova for MvC3 that said he'd have a gold crackle every time he'd do moves and would be able to open up and manipulate stargates on the stage and that was far more complicated and unique than what we got.

 

[J-Tier]

Honestly, characters like Thanos and Sentry feel like pretty boring inclusions to me from a gameplay perspective. Like, I get it, a lot of people are only really interested so they can buy it and look at the pretty Marvel characters on the screen, but most characters whose main powers are some combination of super strength, super stamina, energy projection, telekinesis feel like they need some sort of gimmick to make them stand out.

Thanos I think is a necessity because he's the MCU big bad, however generic he may seem on the surface.

The Sentry--I think is boring though. While the whole Void thing is kinda neat for back story and maybe some cinematic flair, it's not easily conceptualized into a unique moveset.

We'd be better off with the other flying super strength character: Hyperion. He can shoot eye beams and some iterations have super breath. He's Super unique compared to the Sentry.

 

[christiankid7]

I want War Machine. Take the Dark Reign run as inspiration and he would be a completely different beast than Iron Man or Ultron.







I would't be upset if they added Karn. If we could only get one Spidey villain hough I would want Kraven.

Yeah, I've been talking about using that as a basis.

Would war machine be a zoner or a rushdown character? I could see arguments for both.

Couldn't they just transplant most of Rocket Raccoon's moveset to Kraven and give him a more faithful one? I could see him taking most of Rocket's traps, plus a few tricks of his own. I could even see him summoning animals like Jill/FW

 

[sixteen-bit]

New Ducktales cast announced

#PutUncleScroogeInMvCI

 

[IntelliHeath]

New Ducktales cast announced

#PutUncleScroogeInMvCI

I can't believe that people are still on that kick because I specifically remember some people actually request same thing during MVC3/UMVC3 hype era.

 

[sixteen-bit]

I can't believe that people are still on that kick because I specifically remember some people actually request same thing during MVC3/UMVC3 hype era.

I'm a Gene stan so u might as well talk to a brick wall.

 

[Sesha]

I'm a Gene stan so u might as well talk to a brick wall.

Gene was almost in UMvC3, though. Unca Scrooge was probably never in the consideration before, and requires more legal shenanigans to work.

 

[Mr. Smiley]

Disney vs Capcom will happen in my lifetime goddammit

 

[Fireflu]

yo guys i just came back from the future

this is what the roster will look like in five years

Spoiler

i wish

Awesome roster, but it would be great to see some Onimusha and Lost Planet in the mix too. Specifically Samanosuke (with a demon/devil trigger mechanic):

Or Nobunaga or Gargant:

And the PTX-140 from LP1/2:

EDIT: Scrooge McDuck vs Howard the Duck needs to happen.

 

[TheDinoman]

Awesome roster, but it would be great to see some Onimusha and Lost Planet in the mix too. .

I have Soki (who was previously in TVC) on there, and he's from Onimusha.

 

[Doctrine Dark]

I actually want Thanos' Bubble to return, but change everything else. The only thing I can recall from Marvel Super Heroes that didn't reappear was him throwing some rocks at you, and the two hypers where he slows you down/reverse your controls.

Was there anything else he lost in MVC2? Really didn't like how watered down he was there.

 

[RRockman]

I bet we wont get anyone from e.x. troopers, which is a shame because I like their designs a lot.

 

[Pancakes R Us]

What's up with the lack of X-Men? I used to love playing as Wolverine on arcade back in the day I can't even remember which game it was...maybe the first?

 

[Reszo]

I need to have a tag team of Gambit and Date Masamune.
Or even Dante and Date.

Hopefully the sengoku basara team changed there minds on not wanting their characters in .

 

[IntelliHeath]

I don't see Jennifer not returning.

Maybe they could give her back her slide...or maybe give her back her slide...or possibly....give her back her slide

She-Hulk has a good chance of returning, but I wouldn't say that she's guaranteed.

Well, I'm on 50/50 with She-Hulk's return. All speculations and hearsay.

Pro

• If Capcom or/and Marvel meant what they said about listening to the fans and their demands or requests from UMVC3. So that could meant they might listen to one of few majority complaints the audience had with UMVC3,. One of majority complaint they had with UMVC3 is the roster lacks diversity. Hopefully it would open the gate to more interesting characters
• She-Hulk is going to be only one female character from UMVC3 that aren't on "ban list" by Marvel, awhile rest of UMVC3 female characters (X23, Phoenix, Storm) are locked behind X-Men ban.
• It could be easy to reuse She-Hulk's assets for MVC:I
• She still have a prominent roles in the comic, and still have her solo comic based on her inner turmoil to deal with what happened during Civil War 2.
• She's still a popular character. Also she's one of most important character in Woman of Marvel franchise, along with Ms. Marvel, Squirrel Girl, Captain Marvel, Black Widow, etc.

Con

• She's not featured in MCU yet. Also there is no rumor about her debut in MCU yet.
• Status on her film (or movie) right is unknown. I'm not even sure if it's locked behind Hulk-Unversial Studio deal or not.

 

[Neoxon]

What's up with the lack of X-Men? I used to love playing as Wolverine on arcade back in the day I can't even remember which game it was...maybe the first?

Marvel's being dicks about promoting Fox material. Though Ryce heard that they'll be DLC, don't expect any X-Men or F4 in the base roster.

 

[Pancakes R Us]

Marvel's being dicks about promoting Fox material. Though Ryce heard that they'll be DLC, don't expect any X-Men or F4 in the base roster.

May wait for 'ultimate' edition.

 

[IntelliHeath]

I have Soki (who was previously in TVC) on there, and he's from Onimusha.

Breath of Fire Rep, Where?

Spoiler

I understand the chance for BOF getting rep in Marvel series is pretty low.

What's up with the lack of X-Men? I used to love playing as Wolverine on arcade back in the day I can't even remember which game it was...maybe the first?

Check OP for information. Mostly in Q&A Section

 

[Neoxon]

May wait for 'ultimate' edition.

If SFV is any indication, I wouldn't get your hopes up for a Super/Ultimate version (namely to avoid splitting the player-base).

 

[sixteen-bit]

If SFV is any indication, I wouldn't get your hopes up for a Super/Ultimate version (namely to avoid splitting the player-base).

Speaking of spliting the player base, any chance @ crossplay between PS4 and PC at least?

 

[Lulubop]

Speaking of spliting the player base, any chance @ crossplay between PS4 and PC at least?

how could anyone even answer this?

 

[enzo_gt]

Well, I'm on 50/50 with She-Hulk's return. All speculations and hearsay.

Pro

• If Capcom or/and Marvel meant what they said about listening to the fans and their demands or requests from UMVC3. So that could meant they might listen to one of few majority complaints the audience had with UMVC3,. One of majority complaint they had with UMVC3 is the roster lacks diversity. Hopefully it would open the gate to more interesting characters
• She-Hulk is going to be only one female character from UMVC3 that aren't on "ban list" by Marvel, awhile rest of UMVC3 female characters (X23, Phoenix, Storm) are locked behind X-Men ban.
• It could be easy to reuse She-Hulk's assets for MVC:I
• She still have a prominent roles in the comic, and still have her solo comic based on her inner turmoil to deal with what happened during Civil War 2.
• She's still a popular character. Also she's one of most important character in Woman of Marvel franchise, along with Ms. Marvel, Squirrel Girl, Captain Marvel, Black Widow, etc.

Con

• She's not featured in MCU yet. Also there is no rumor about her debut in MCU yet.
• Status on her film (or movie) right is unknown. I'm not even sure if it's locked behind Hulk-Unversial Studio deal or not.

Con: She-Hulk was one of the most unpopular characters in all of MvC3.

Which might speak towards how popular she really is despite getting a push here and there in the comics.

 

[Fireflu]

I have Soki (who was previously in TVC) on there, and he's from Onimusha.

I'm blind, nice one.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Con: She-Hulk was one of the most unpopular characters in all of MvC3.

Which might speak towards how popular she really is despite getting a push here and there in the comics.

Source on that? If you are talking about competitively scene, that would be very small percentage out of total numbers.

 

[christiankid7]

Did people hate her inclusion or that she wasn't good? Where was she on the tier lists?

 

[TheDinoman]

Did people hate her inclusion or that she wasn't good? Where was she on the tier lists?

Mostly the latter, I think. She was alright in Vanilla MVC3 but then got nerfed super hard in Ultimate.

Some people were annoyed by her inclusion, though....like Angry Joe.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Did people hate her inclusion or that she wasn't good? Where was she on the tier lists?

She was good in MVC3 with right Team with good setup then they decided to nerf her pretty bad in UMVC3.

I presume that people think she wasn't popular choice because 1) many people thought she is going to be a clone of Hulk but it's not in case and 2) they are more upset that they didn't get female characters they wanted.

 

[J-Tier]

Did people hate her inclusion or that she wasn't good? Where was she on the tier lists?

I remember when she was first revealed, I wasn't very excited about her inclusion. Now I don't want a roster without her.

 

[christiankid7]

Who would replace her as the big bruiser female of the Marvel side?

Thundra would work but she's tied up in the F4

Nobody knows who Power Princess is

Same goes for Titania

Molly Hayes....it would depend on the mutant situation.

 

[J-Tier]

Who would replace her as the big bruiser female of the Marvel side?


Same goes for Titania

Titania played a decent role in the most recent Illuminati run.

Stature could work, however she won't be picked over Ant-Man or Wasp.

 

[Mr. Smiley]

red she hulk duuuuuh

You guys think Capcom will do the Injustice/Smash bros thing of letting Legacy characters be a costume with their intro/victory/taunt animations and voice lines?

Imagine John Stewart Green Lantern but way better
https://youtu.be/yVgGXD3_8ZA

 

[J-Tier]

red she hulk duuuuuh

You guys think Capcom will do the Injustice/Smash bros thing of letting Legacy characters be a costume with their intro/victory/taunt animations and voice lines?

Imagine John Stewart Green Lantern but way better
https://youtu.be/yVgGXD3_8ZA

It would be neat. What are some examples of legacy characters? I'm not exactly sure what that includes.

 

[Weiss]

It would be neat. What are some examples of legacy characters? I'm not exactly sure what that includes.

I'm thinking War Machine, Miles Morales/Spider-Gwen, SamCap and BuckyCap, and Monica Rambeau.

MvC3 got a lot of mileage out of basing alt colours on other characters. She-Hulk was basically a different character with each of her swaps.

Incidentally there is at least some precedence for this in the series. MSHvSF and MvC1 had secret palette swap characters with unique properties.

 

[Mr. Smiley]

It would be neat. What are some examples of legacy characters? I'm not exactly sure what that includes.

I'm honestly just repeating what I saw in a video. By legacy, the video meant characters with very similar powers to their previous counterparts who also share the same/title. Like Red Hulk or Jane Foster Thor.

I thought it was a neat idea.

 

[christiankid7]

It would be neat. What are some examples of legacy characters? I'm not exactly sure what that includes.

I think these are all legacy characters, though...some might be iffy
Miles Morales (to Ultimate Spidey)
James "Rhodey" Rhodes (to Iron Man)
Kevin Masterson (to thor odinson)
Beta Ray Bill (to thor odinson)
Baron Zemo (to Baron Heinrich Zemo)
Miguel O'Hara (To Spider-man Peter Parker)
Mayday Parker (to Spider-man Peter Parker)
Carol Danvers (to Captain Mar-Vell)
Genis Vell (to Captain Mar-Vell)
Jane Foster (to Thor)
Richard Rider (kinda to Nova Rhomann Dey)
Sam Alexander (To Nova Richard Rider)
Ko-Rel (to Nova Richard Rider)
Robbie Reyes (to Ghost Rider Johnny Blaze)
Sam Wilson (to Cap)
Bucky Barnes (to Cap)
White Tiger Ava (to White Tiger Hector)
Dane Whitman (to Black Knight Nathan Garret)

I think Iron Fist is also based on a legacy

Some legacies, such as Black Knight's, Ghost Rider's, Zemo's and I think Iron Fist's are really long

I'm not certain Spider-gwen qualifies since there's no inspiration of a prior Spider-man or woman in her reality. I'm fairly certain a legacy hero has to exist and become inspired by the hero they are based on, though I might be wrong

 

[Neoxon]

It would be neat. What are some examples of legacy characters? I'm not exactly sure what that includes.

• Miles Morales (Spider-Man)
• Kamala Khan (Ms. Marvel)
• Robbie Reyes (Ghost Rider)
• Riri Williams (Iron Man/Ironheart)
• Kate Bishop (Hawkeye)
• Amadeus Cho (Hulk)
• Jane Foster (Thor)
• Sam Wilson (Captain America)
• Sam Alexander (Nova)

 

[shaowebb]

Mostly the latter, I think. She was alright in Vanilla MVC3 but then got nerfed super hard in Ultimate.

Some people were annoyed by her inclusion, though....like Angry Joe.

Angry Joe is useful to get an idea how casual players knee jerk react to things and he serves a good purpose in figuring out that market. However, for anything else I wouldn't put much stock in him.

 

[Mr. Smiley]

^^Right. Of course, not all of them would work as some exhibit pretty striking differences from their original predecessors. But to those who are most similar would be the focus.

 

[J-Tier]

Oh okay, I get it now. I just wasn't sure what "legacy character" meant at that moment. For some reason, I thought legacy meant something different lol. Derp.

 

[Seven Force]

I think these are all legacy characters, though...some might be iffy
Miles Morales (to Ultimate Spidey)
James "Rhodey" Rhodes (to Iron Man)
Kevin Masterson (to thor odinson)
Beta Ray Bill (to thor odinson)
Baron Zemo (to Baron Heinrich Zemo)
Miguel O'Hara (To Spider-man Peter Parker)
Mayday Parker (to Spider-man Peter Parker)
Carol Danvers (to Captain Mar-Vell)
Genis Vell (to Captain Mar-Vell)
Jane Foster (to Thor)
Richard Rider (kinda to Nova Rhomann Dey)
Sam Alexander (To Nova Richard Rider)
Ko-Rel (to Nova Richard Rider)
Robbie Reyes (to Ghost Rider Johnny Blaze)
Sam Wilson (to Cap)
Bucky Barnes (to Cap)
White Tiger Ava (to White Tiger Hector)
Dane Whitman (to Black Knight Nathan Garret)

I think Iron Fist is also based on a legacy

Some legacies, such as Black Knight's, Ghost Rider's, Zemo's and I think Iron Fist's are really long

I'm not certain Spider-gwen qualifies since there's no inspiration of a prior Spider-man or woman in her reality. I'm fairly certain a legacy hero has to exist and become inspired by the hero they are based on, though I might be wrong

• Miles Morales (Spider-Man)
• Kamala Khan (Ms. Marvel)
• Robbie Reyes (Ghost Rider)
• Riri Williams (Iron Man/Ironheart)
• Kate Bishop (Hawkeye)
• Amadeus Cho (Hulk)
• Jane Foster (Thor)
• Sam Wilson (Captain America)
• Sam Alexander (Nova)

Also Kaine (to Scarlet Spider)

I just really wanted an excuse to mention Scarlet Spider.

 

[christiankid7]

Also Kaine (to Scarlet Spider)

I just really wanted an excuse to mention Scarlet Spider.

Ben Reilly qualifies as well

Oh and X-23 to Wolverine

 

[Neoxon]

Ben Reilly qualifies as well

Oh and X-23 to Wolverine

I didn't mention X-23 since she likely isn't an option for the base roster.

 

[christiankid7]

Moonstone is one,

Spoiler

though it was less inspiration and more manipulation of the original character

Are all the children of heroes and villains automatically legacy characters?

Cassie Lang is to Scott (both have similar powers)

but what about characters that aren't similar to their parents like Swordsman (Andreas Strucker) to Baron Wolfgang Von Strucker?

Rachel would be one to Jean but would Cable qualify?




But, for family...are they ALWAYS automatically legacy characters? Even if they don't inherit the name of their parents?

 

[Seven Force]

Moonstone is one,

Spoiler

though it was less inspiration and more manipulation of the original character

And yet, Moonstone's tenure as (not) Ms. Marvel was more interesting than anything's Carol's been a part of.

Flash Thompson for Venom just came to mind too (And Eddie himself, since he's apparently Toxin now? Funny how Cletus is the only one that sticks to one symbiote)

 

[Sesha]

Alternate versions of characters, either as clones with similar with subtly different movesets or skins, like Dark Pit and the Koopalings for Pit and Bowser Jr. respectively, could work. But I doubt we will see Sam Wilson replace Steve Rogers, Miles replace Peter, or Jane Foster replace Thor Odinson in the base roster.

Moonstone is one,

Spoiler

though it was less inspiration and more manipulation of the original character

Are all the children of heroes and villains automatically legacy characters?

Cassie Lang is to Scott (both have similar powers)

but what about characters that aren't similar to their parents like Swordsman (Andreas Strucker) to Baron Wolfgang Von Strucker?

Rachel would be one to Jean but would Cable qualify?




But, for family...are they ALWAYS automatically legacy characters? Even if they don't inherit the name of their parents?

Legacies usually mean characters who adopt the previous identity of other characters. Jaime Reyes is a legacy to Ted Kord as Blue Beetle, and Damian Wayne is a legacy to Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Stephanie Brown and Tim Drake as Robin.

Same goes for Titania

Molly Hayes....it would depend on the mutant situation.

Molly is difficult. Runaways is getting an MCU show on Hulu, and they will probably just forget about her mutant origins like they did with Red Wicked Witch and White Flash, but like with them they might not want to use her. But unlike them, she has no close connection to the X-Men universe, although as DLC her chances are smaller (pun intended).

A different issue is Marvel might not be okay with a kid getting beat up, unless they use her adult future version. But that defeats half the point of choosing Molly.

 

[J-Tier]

Besides the legacy characters, I'd like to see a lot of the multiversal variants with unique voiceovers. Like 2099, 1602, Noir, Spider-Verse for Spidey, etc.

 

[Muskieratboi]

Make it happen, Capcom!

 

[Weiss]

Squirrel Girl needs to be in.

She can have a hyper where the screen goes dark and the enemy suddenly lost half their HP.

 

[christiankid7]

And yet, Moonstone's tenure as (not) Ms. Marvel was more interesting than anything's Carol's been a part of.

Flash Thompson for Venom just came to mind too (And Eddie himself, since he's apparently Toxin now? Funny how Cletus is the only one that sticks to one symbiote)

Venom has so many "legacy characters", clones, and "what if we did Venom, but now its ____" that its ridiculous.

Scream, Riot , Lasher, Phage, Agony, (all 4 combine into Hybrid) AntiVenom, Carnage, Toxin, Payback, Mania, Scorn, Raze, Dreadface, She-Venom...and about 20,000 more
plus all the hosts are legacy characters as well

Venom=Spidey>Eddie Brock>Anne Weying>(ignoring Venom by Daniel Way...because ugh)>Angelo Fortunato>Gargan>Flash>Thunderbolt Ross (briefly)>Andi>(haven't read Space Knight but it was on some guy)>Lee>(alternate universe continuation)>Mayday>Normie Osborn>(another alternate universe continuation)>Kron

Cletus wasn't the only Carnage. He might not have hopped symbiotes but the symbiote did ditch him I believe
Carnage=Cletus>Ben Reilly>Silver Surfer(?)>Tanis (kinda? Just a bit of the symbiote if that counts)

Toxin=Paddy Mulligan>Eddie Brock (I probably missed a few there)

and then there's alllllllll the other symbiotes that I can't be bothered to remember all their hosts (and you don't really care about, either)

I think Scream and AntiVenom are the only Symbiotes that never swapped...of course they're also both dead soo....

 

[Sesha]

Squirrel Girl needs to be in.

She can have a hyper where the screen goes dark and the enemy suddenly lost half their HP.

So Shun Goku Satsu then?