Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster Discussion Thread

The 2017 pass is described as containing "all-new" characters, and SneakersSO says that it doesn't contain any X-Men.

The entire reddit post people are referring to is BS.

Have any insiders said if Capcom has finalized the roster?
OFC its finalized. Game comes out in Sept of 2017, not 2018.

That would be the perfect surprise. Not seeing Wolverine, Deadpool, or any X-Men characters is just...ugh.

Honestly, i've grown way warm to the idea of having them as DLC. Let the newcomers have their time to shine without everyone just crowding around the old-mainstays just cause they are familiar. It's not like we aren't getting them anyway.
 
I'm fine with waiting. MVC is a game I intend to play and explore no matter who's in the game.

I just don't want this to hurt the initial reception of the game. I want the game to kill it in sells.

Sneakers, based on what you know, without revealing anything, do you think the roster will be enough to win people over?
 
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Unlikely, but Wasp (Janet) is another character I wanted super super badly in MvC3. I got over it, but I'd be over the moon is she somehow got into Infinite. I feel like the shrinking gimmick will be unique to just Ant-man if he makes the roster.
Let's be honest, Ant-Man's a lock at this point. Leaked by both Polygon & Eurogamer, and that's on top of Hawkeye's Level 3 being changed. Ant-Man's coming.
 
The 2017 pass is described as containing "all-new" characters, and SneakersSO says that it doesn't contain any X-Men.

The 2017 Character Pass has nothing but newcomers, & SneakersSO already heard that we won't get any Fox guys until 2018.

Remember, the game was likely in development for 2 years, and things between Marvel & Fox didn't improve until recently.
Oh shit, how did I miss this. Good looks with the correction.

Honestly, i've grown way warm to the idea of having them as DLC. Let the newcomers have their time to shine without everyone just crowding around the old-mainstays just cause they are familiar. It's not like we aren't getting them anyway.
I'm happy this post alludes to newcomers. Hope it's around 1/3 of the cast like MvC3.
 
Let's be honest, Ant-Man's a lock at this point. Leaked by both Polygon & Eurogamer, and that's on top of Hawkeye's Level 3 being changed. Ant-Man's coming.
Yeah, I'm confident he's in too. However, he's not real until he's revealed.

He'll be super cool, I'm sure they'll use Scott Lang. Even less of a chance for Janet assuming that's the case.
 
Yeah, I'm confident he's in too. However, he's not real until he's revealed.

He'll be super cool, I'm sure they'll use Scott Lang. Even less of a chance for Janet assuming that's the case.

Or simply Wasp is going to be part of super or hyper move(s). I doubt it would happens tho.
 
"Old mainstays"... but most of the Avengers fit in that category (not trying to make a hate post lol) I know that Marvel owns all their rights and want to push them, it's just hard to be an X-Men fan sometimes, blame the animated series for that hahah.

If the new reveals are indeed newcomers, that would be great. I need Daredevil in the meantime for the FOX characters.
 
"Old mainstays"... but most of the Avengers fit in that category (not trying to make a hate post lol) I know that Marvel owns all their rights and want to push them, it's just hard to be an X-Men fan sometimes, blame the animated series for that hahah.

If the new reveals are indeed newcomers, that would be great. I need Daredevil in the meantime for the FOX characters.

You're right in that the Avengers have been in the Marvel games for awhile now, but they never got top billing did they. It was always the X-men roster. Hulk & Dr. Doom also did pretty well from there, but everyone knows that Magneto, Sentinel, Storm, Wolverine, and to a lesser degree Cyclops, Psylocke, & Cable is who everyone wants to see here, lets not pretend otherwise.

I will give you that, independent of the game, being an X-men fan in this day & age is rough in Marvel comics, but at least we get some solid films (DoFP, Logan, Deadpool) from time to time. But you just know if those 8 characters (Dr. Doom, Storm, Sentinel, Mag, Wolverine, Cyclops, Psylocke, Cable) were in on day 1, that is all we'd see very heavily the beginning of play, unless some of the other characters were just straight up broken.

I feel, with this method, we'll get the old familiars getting their time in the sun when they come out, but at least initially in the beginning the cast will get their proper chance to be explored.
 
I don't think that's a bad way of looking at it. That's a very reasonable POV.

Thing is, I feel like the game selling well will ultimately determine the legs of its future. If those characters being overused meant the game was going to have really strong sells right from the jump, I'd be all for it no matter if they were OP or not.

With the way I see how a good amount of people are dismissive about the game with the lack of X-Men, I can't help but feel that this is a feeling shared by many. I feel like in a game like MVC, the lack of X-Men is a bad idea because a lot of people are accustomed to them being in a game like this. Seeing none would surely turn off a lot of people and make them decide to either avoid it altogether, or simply wait until they're included.

Most of us are MVC fans to the core, so this won't stop us from getting Infinite. I'm more worried about the casuals who'll avoid the game because there's no Wolverine, or Deadpool, or any other X-Men they're familiar with. SFV didn't reach its goal. I don't want to see Infinite have a similar outcome.
 
You're right in that the Avengers have been in the Marvel games for awhile now, but they never got top billing did they. It was always the X-men roster. Hulk & Dr. Doom also did pretty well from there, but everyone knows that Magneto, Sentinel, Storm, Wolverine, and to a lesser degree Cyclops, Psylocke, & Cable is who everyone wants to see here, lets not pretend otherwise.

I will give you that, independent of the game, being an X-men fan in this day & age is rough in Marvel comics, but at least we get some solid films (DoFP, Logan, Deadpool) from time żdto time. But you just know if those 8 characters (Dr. Doom, Storm, Sentinel, Mag, Wolverine, Cyclops, Psylocke, Cable) were in on day 1, that is all we'd see very heavily the beginning of play, unless some of the other characters were just straight up broken.

I feel, with this method, we'll get the old familiars getting their time in the sun when they come out, but at least initially in the beginning the cast will get their proper chance to be explored.
Well, it's a good point of view. I'm more dissapointed on the part where are no reps in the base roster at all, the X-Men started the series after all (at least 1 character would have been nice) "The legacy is not lost" will have to wait until next year...

I'll have to get used to the idea, so I hope that Capcom gives us some surprises.
 
This game really is a lesson in how weird Capcom is.

1) Release trailer in December with absolutely no information aside from telling everyone its 2v2, theres gems, and its for casuals
2) Wait 6 months and say nothing. Everyone thinks the game is basically Street Fighter x Tekken. During that period we get constant speculation about how the game is going to suck and everyone is down on it. No hype whatsoever. Also the game looks like ass.
3) Story mode trailer with DLC set 6 months later???
4) Finally get gameplay. Gameplay looks really different than we expected, they've basically made a complete sandbox game that is going to be amazingly broken and fun. Game still looks like ass, HUD is LOL, Chun Li has a WTF terribad face but clearly they're trying to save money b/c Capcom is like broke or something
5) Do nothing except 15 second Raccoon trailer
6) pray they dont screw up the launch.
 
I thought that the thread was closed after not seeing it after some time.

So, Rikurikumore is back with more leaks and is saying that Thanos and Asura are new characters for Infinite. I know that Ryce debunked it with the "red and blue" hint but it would be nice to get them (even though both are safe bets)
 
I thought that the thread was closed after not seeing it after some time.

So, Rikurikumore is back with more leaks and is saying that Thanos and Asura are new characters for Infinite. I know that Ryce debunked it with the "red and blue" hint but it would be nice to get them (even though both are safe bets)

We need more Gene rumors and confirmations before Asura. ;p
 
As I've said before, don't get me wrong, I want Asura too.

Just Gene would be a lot funnier and would have a pretty funny moveset. He could dragon kick someone's ass to the Milky way. Would be amazing.
 
This game really is a lesson in how weird Capcom is.

1) Release trailer in December with absolutely no information aside from telling everyone its 2v2, theres gems, and its for casuals
2) Wait 6 months and say nothing. Everyone thinks the game is basically Street Fighter x Tekken. During that period we get constant speculation about how the game is going to suck and everyone is down on it. No hype whatsoever. Also the game looks like ass.
3) Story mode trailer with DLC set 6 months later???
4) Finally get gameplay. Gameplay looks really different than we expected, they've basically made a complete sandbox game that is going to be amazingly broken and fun. Game still looks like ass, HUD is LOL, Chun Li has a WTF terribad face but clearly they're trying to save money b/c Capcom is like broke or something
5) Do nothing except 15 second Raccoon trailer
6) pray they dont screw up the launch.
We got gameplay in December bruh.
 
In fighting games capcom is never able to find the happy medium of just the right amount of new characters and returning characters. SFV is a prime example.
 
Are you referring to this post?

A lot of maybes in that post.

A lot of "safe" choices as well. It seems like he has just compiled other people's guesses and theories and stuff we have all heard and claimed it to be factual and presented it as confirmed

"X Men aren't official, but if they make it, there will prob be at least two. I don't know who would but maybe it would be Cyclops and Wolverine I guess"

EDIT: Of course I want to believe for Captain Commando but I'm skeptical
 
I really want Riku's list to be legit.

I don't believe it, but I'd like for it to be real too.

But there's no mention of Phoenix Wright or anyone from the Ace Attorney series...

I'm serious. I will not buy this game unless Ace Attorney is represented in some form. Phoenix Wright was pretty much the sole reason I kept playing UMvC3 as long as I did; I otherwise would have probably dropped it in a week like any other traditional 2D fighter I've played because I don't care about the characters. The only other character that came close was Ammy, but her chances are growing slimmer by the day, too. =/
 
To me, the characters that make most sense to include in these VS games are characters that can pass off as heroes/villains to stand next to Marvel characters and not look out of place.

Most of the Darkstalker characters have the edge in that they look like villains/super heroes but also come feature ready as fighting game characters. They are easy inclusions hence why they end up getting high number of reps despite low number of games sold per series.

That's why something like DMC ends up getting a bunch of series rep. Not only is it a top 5 series for Capcom but all the characters in it are super hero/villains. They got super abilities up the wazoo. It also helps DMC because they come moveset ready as DMC at times is modeled after fighting games in terms of some mechanics.


Of course there are exceptions especially with characters that have their own franchises and have to be included despite not meeting this criteria (like Phoenix Wright). But that's why we can't have both Chris and Leon/Ada/Barry in the game because they are just too... normal for the game. Regina unfortunately has a similar issue but at least she represents a whole series.

You can force a fighting game moveset on any character you want, that's rarely an issue. It's having characters in that make sense and create a balanced roster in terms of archetype and series representation.

But Resident Evil is Capcom's most popular franchise. They need to have a lot of reps, and the good thing about RE characters is that they all have gimmicks to differentiate them; Chris stole Jill's old weapon based moveset, Jill now is a melee based fighter, Leon can be vehicle-centric while Ada relies on her high-tech gadgets and Grapple Gun (a mix betwen Viper and Spencer)
 
But Resident Evil is Capcom's most popular franchise. They need to have a lot of reps, and the good thing about RE characters is that they all have gimmicks to differentiate them; Chris stole Jill's old weapon based moveset, Jill now is a melee based fighter, Leon can be vehicle-centric while Ada relies on her high-tech gadgets and Grapple Gun (a mix betwen Viper and Spencer)
Aside from RE5 Jill, they are all a bunch of dudes/gals with gadgets. Basically a bunch of Punishers and Black Widows. That's not enough to differentiate them.

You can always "differentiate" characters by providing different tools/mechanics but at the end of the day, Chris/Leon/Ada aren't going to be air dashing or flying or teleporting around. This is a series that is built on super heroes fighting other super heroes. You can only handle so many regular humans in the roster.

RE is a popular franchise for sure... but they have different archetypes that they can provide. Wesker is a super human teleporter with guns, command grabs and super human speed (ie. wave dashes, Phantom Dance). Jill is an extreme pixie character with teleport dashes, slides, pseudo air dashes.. also super human. Then you have Nemesis which is a long ranged grappler/armor character that actually provides balance to the roster. And of course you have Chris to fill the "dude with guns" quota of the roster. Not to mention the dozens of other zombie bosses they can provide as interesting character concepts (like Tyrant).

They can just create skins for Chris that make him look like Leon.
 
Aside from RE5 Jill, they are all a bunch of dudes/gals with gadgets. Basically a bunch of Punishers and Black Widows. That's not enough to differentiate them.

You can always "differentiate" characters by providing different tools/mechanics but at the end of the day, Chris/Leon/Ada aren't going to be air dashing or flying or teleporting around. This is a series that is built on super heroes fighting other super heroes. You can only handle so many regular humans in the roster.
Yup, I'd prefer not to have too many ordinary guys. I still think of how much relevance Black Widow has in any of the avengers movies when she looks like a joke when any super human is on screen... I guess Batman is in the same league as Black Widow in this aspect, (which was why Batman vs Superman ending he basically did nothing in the last fight).
 
I need some advice! Whats the best PS4 Fighting Pad? I'm personally trying to get one with possibly an analog stick, but if i cant get my way, I'll have to learn how to use a d-pad more. Wanting one thats tournament standard superior to be a controller.
 
Yup, I'd prefer not to have too many ordinary guys. I still think of how much relevance Black Widow has in any of the avengers movies when she looks like a joke when any super human is on screen... I guess Batman is in the same league as Black Widow in this aspect, (which was why Batman vs Superman ending he basically did nothing in the last fight).
Having 1-2 characters that are "just human" from each side is probably acceptable... just to show the kids out there that you can be a hero without having super powers.

But to make an exciting fsuper hero fighting game roster you can't just fill it up with a bunch of dudes and gals with no real special powers.
 
There's hardly anything unrealistic about the list, though. That's not saying it's real, but if those characters are all revealed to be in, it wouldn't be that much of a surprise.
 
Yeah, the list seems fake. There are too many things presented as fact and too many vague statements to get out of things since he could just be guessing. Like that Darkstalkers and SFV rep thing. Still there's that weird GnG thing where he's got both Arthur and Firebrand in there.
 
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