Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster |DT2| oh dear...

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No Venom wouldn't be a deal breaker for me by any means. He was just the one character that really lessened my disappointment in the roster. I'm still as excited as ever for this, even more so after all the gameplay at comic con.

IntelliHeath said:
I understand why people started to worry about the game but I don't think people should stress themselves out at the moment. Just relax and wait for next reveals before we jump into conclusion about certain characters not being part of the base roster. :)

Just believe!
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I'm still holding out hope, Heath!
 
Unspeakable Evil said:
No Venom on his own cover but Venom might be in?
1+1=-2
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The fact that he was in the .zip leak & that Season 1 is said to be for newcomers (with Thanos, despite his moveset change, not being considered as a newcomer) gives us a glimmer of hope.....unless he ends up being a NPC.
 
I stand by it. MonHun and Venom as DLC would be the last straw. Fucking 2 newcomers on the capcom side in the base roster would be ludicrous
 
If Venom isn't in the base roster, that means we aren't getting the Monster Hunter character in base, since that's the only Capcom character that hasn't been revealed in some way or form; since Firebrand features in a cover. This would put us at a 30 char roster in base.

Not that I think this will happen, mind you.

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We'd be looking at this puny roster:
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IntelliHeath said:
Not to defend the game but I took a screenshot of low res YouTube so of course, it would looks terrible.
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You're not helping! This threads my gateway to all things MvCI
 
Neoxon said:
The fact that he was in the .zip leak & that Season 1 is said to be for newcomers (with Thanos, despite his moveset change, not being considered as a newcomer) gives us a glimmer of hope.....unless he ends up being a NPC.
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How many times do I gotta say it before people understand?

These leaks aren't written in stone. Ryce and others have been incorrect before, hell these folks got banned over getting stuff not correct.

Venom was never a sure thing on day 1. He might be DLC and I know people are going to be like "Bbbbut Capcom said it's all new characters!!!" Well all new characters could mean a lot of thing like new to Marvel 3 or new in terms of moveset like Thanos. Or maybe they never really meant to say all new to begin with, I haven't seen a confirmation of it since they first announced Sigma as DLC.
 
Unspeakable Evil said:
I'll laugh if Jane Thor and Miles are the other 2 dlc characters. You guys did want more female and non MCU characters.
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A while back I tried to brainstorm the worst case scenario for the rest of the character pass, but somehow Jane Thor and Miles take the cake. That's the new bar, two alternate versions of characters in the base cast already.
 
Why would Sigma and Black Panther be on OTHER Variants if they are S1 DLC, but Venom not be on his OWN cover if he's S1 DLC?

Its not like they didn't have other Spider-man comics to put variants on
 
Capcom didnt say anything about the DLC. A small message in the trailer "said it". People ran with it like they run with everything as if it was gospel.
 
Dahbomb said:
How many times do I gotta say it before people understand?

These leaks aren't written in stone. Ryce and others have been incorrect before, hell these folks got banned over getting stuff not correct.

Venom was never a sure thing on day 1. He might be DLC and I know people are going to be like "Bbbbut Capcom said it's all new characters!!!" Well all new characters could mean a lot of thing like new to Marvel 3 or new in terms of moveset like Thanos. Or maybe they never really meant to say all new to begin with, I haven't seen a confirmation of it since they first announced Sigma as DLC.
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That's why I mentioned that we may have to wait until Season 2 if Venom's DLC (with him being an NPC in the story in the meantime). As far as I could tell, I couldn't find anything that showed that Capcom considered Thanos as a newcomer.

Rhaknar said:
Capcom didnt say anything about the DLC. A small message in the trailer "said it". People ran with it like they run with everything as if it was gospel.
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The advertising said "All-New Characters" for MvCI Season 1, similar to their wording of the non-Akuma SFV Season 2 characters.
 
Just gonna repost what I said here:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=244782966&postcount=62

Honestly, I knew deep down inside that they probably shouldn't even bothered making it.

Marvel and Capcom just aren't the same companies they were when MVC3 was in production. Marvel's all about the MCU these days, going so far to shun and blacklist a huge chuck of their popular legacy characters just because the head of their merchandising division is some old bitter fuck who's pissy that Fox owns the movie rights to said legacy characters. And Capcom is just kind of a carcass of a company which doesn't have the budget or resources to do big AAA games anymore (besides MH World I guess). Put these together and you're left with MVC Infinite, which pretty much lacks most of the soul and charisma of previous VS games.

With the way things are now, I think it would of been better to leave well enough alone when it comes to Marvel.
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Ultimately, I feel like this game is the ultimate monkey's paw wish.
 
Yeah, to be fair, Capcom never confirmed that the characters were "all-new" to the series. Could have easily been a Marvel-ism (All-New is one of Marvel's favourite adjectives). Though hope springs eternal.

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We're still missing 3 variant covers, right?

Black Panther #17, Defenders #4 and Thanos #10.

I expect: Black Panther vs. Sigma (keep it DLC), Dr. Strange vs. something or other (Strange led the original Defenders) and Thanos vs... Strider? I guess? I dunno. I never would have called the match-ups in some of these covers.
 
The thing bogging down the art style is that Marvel wants a premium version of a freemium game and is getting the worst of both worlds.
 
enzo_gt said:
A while back I tried to brainstorm the worst case scenario for the rest of the character pass, but somehow Jane Thor and Miles take the cake. That's the new bar, two alternate versions of characters in the base cast already.
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Jane Thor, Miles Morales, War Machine, Abomination, Iron Patriot. Because we need 3 Iron Man clones god damn it.

On Capcom side:

Leon Kennedy (copy/paste Chris without Barry's magnum), Chuck Greene, Zangief (Haggar without das paipu), OG Spencer (without Bionic Arm), Strider Hien (copy/pasta Strider without orbs), Ken.
 
I get why most people would be disappointed over Miles, but Capcom getting an opportunity to make a brand new Spider-man moveset while also incorporating his venom blast and invisibility could be really awesome.
 
We still have
Marvel
Venom (maybe)
Winter Soldier (maybe)
Ghost Rider (likely on Defenders cover but who knows at this point)
Ant-Man
Thanos (confirmed, not on any covers)

as possibilities.

Capcom
Morrigan (confirmed)
Monster Hunter (maybe)
Jedah (confirmed, not on any covers)

I think that's it
 
SaikyoBro said:
It's really easy to compare SFV and Marvel but I do think all things considered this game is still doing a lot more right in terms of content. Launching with a story mode, arcade mode and trials is more than SF can say, and even with all the reused assets a 32-34 character roster is a lot more than 16. There are obviously areas to complain about but I think it's still going to be a bigger and more well-rounded game than SFV was at launch.
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SFV's launch roster was better than this shit.
 
kirblar said:
The thing bogging down the art style is that Marvel wants a premium version of a freemium game and is getting the worst of both worlds.
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I agree they probably still want it to look this premium and like it's from this generation so to give it a realistic art style, but wanting to make MvC like CoC is kind of a stretch, they're totally different markets, platforms, models, persistent gameplay drives etc. They share little besides being fighting games.
 
Out of curiosity, I just checked the Japanese MvCI trailers and they use the term "shinki" in place of "all-new," which simply translates to "new," usually in a business sense — as in, "add 6 additional characters to the game." There's no implication that the characters are brand new to the series.

Also, not that it really matters, but the SFV DLC trailers say "completely new characters" and not "all-new characters."
 
Yeah we put more thought in these covers than necessary
Dahbomb said:
Jane Thor, Miles Morales, War Machine, Abomination, Iron Patriot. Because we need 3 Iron Man clones god damn it.

On Capcom side:

Leon Kennedy (copy/paste Chris without Barry's magnum), Chuck Greene, Zangief (Haggar without das paipu), OG Spencer (without Bionic Arm), Strider Hien (copy/pasta Strider without orbs), Ken.
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Functions vs Reused assets XD
 
Ryce said:
Out of curiosity, I just checked the Japanese MvCI trailers and they use the term “shinki” in place of “all-new,” which simply translates to “new,” usually in a business sense — as in, “add 6 additional characters to the game.” There’s no implication that the characters are brand new to the series.

Also, not that it really matters, but the SFV DLC trailers say “completely new characters” and not “all-new characters.”
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Does it mention anything on the Japanese website for either SFV or MvCI's wording for proper comparison in the translation?
 
Dahbomb said:
On Capcom side:

Leon Kennedy (copy/paste Chris without Barry's magnum), Chuck Greene, Zangief (Haggar without das paipu), OG Spencer (without Bionic Arm), Strider Hien (copy/pasta Strider without orbs), Ken.
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Do you mean Rearmed Spencer without the Arm itself (or pre-grenade incident), or without Bionic Lancer "Bionic Arm"?
I would like a take that focused on Spencer's classic arsenal, that was my initial hopes of Spencer's inclusion into Vanilla MVC3.
 
Ryce said:
Out of curiosity, I just checked the Japanese MvCI trailers and they use the term "shinki" in place of "all-new," which simply translates to "new," usually in a business sense — as in, "add 6 additional characters to the game." There's no implication that the characters are brand new to the series.

Also, not that it really matters, but the SFV DLC trailers say "completely new characters" and not "all-new characters."
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Again, "all-new" could very well be a Marvel-ism.

Unspeakable Evil said:
Yeah we put more thought in these covers than necessary
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Oh absolutely, it'd be silly if the variant covers revealed anything... Except Firebrand and Dormammu got "revealed" through them, so idunno.

JeTmAn81 said:
Venom in the cover of his own book wouldn't confirm anything. Of course he'd been on that.
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And yet he isn't for some reason.
 
Neoxon said:
Does it mention anything on the Japanese website for either SFV or MvCI's wording for proper comparison in the translation?
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None of the Japanese SFV trailers refer to the future characters at all -- the "completely new" descriptor seems to be something that Capcom USA added.
 
Zero-ELEC said:
Again, "all-new" could very well be a Marvel-ism.


Oh absolutely, it'd be silly if the variant covers revealed anything... Except Firebrand and Dormammu got "revealed" through them, so idunno.


And yet he isn't for some reason.
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Maybe they got annoyed with leakers and quickly swapped out Venom fighting Haggar for Spidey. That's why it looks so bad.
 
I like how Marvel GAF goes from HYPE to Dread every time something happens.

HYPE New MvC

Dread...graphics look bad

HYPE New trailer

Dread...Characters look bad

HYPE LEAK!

Dread... Leak is bad

etc.
 
Ryce said:
None of the Japanese SFV trailers refer to the future characters at all -- the "completely new" descriptor seems to be something that Capcom USA added.
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That's weird. Could it be because Street Fighter is technically a Capcom USA property?

JeTmAn81 said:
Maybe they got annoyed with leakers and quickly swapped out Venom fighting Haggar for Spidey. That's why it looks so bad.
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I figure something like that happened: i.e. Marvel Comics commissioned a Venom cover but realized that Venom wasn't going to be revealed by the time the variant came out so they replaced it with a quickly made, vaguely related cover.
 
Neonep said:
SFV's launch roster was better than this shit.
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In terms of effort put into it, yeah, but 30-34 is objectively a lot more options than 16. I don't think many casual gamers could care one way or the other about reused assets, it just feels like a larger package.
 
Ryce said:
None of the Japanese SFV trailers refer to the future characters at all -- the "completely new" descriptor seems to be something that Capcom USA added.
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And it panned out in SFV's case being all-new aside from Akuma. I suppose only time will tell what "all-new" entails.

That said, if Monster Hunter & Venom aren't Day 1, that would only leave Jedah, Ghost Rider, Dormammu, & Firebrand for the next trailer (which would be three revealed for the first time). The last trailer had 5 characters shown in it, even though Gamora was revealed earlier (bringing it down to 4 revealed for the first time).
 
SaikyoBro said:
In terms of effort put into it, yeah, but 30-34 is objectively a lot more options than 16. I don't think many casual gamers could care one way or the other about reused assets, it just feels like a larger package.
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I mean most casuals complained SFV looks like SFIV anyway , so Capcom prolly thought oh well. Lets literally make it the same then lol.
 
Skab said:
wow people are really upset about a fucking comic cover
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Yeah, my gut is telling me people are taking this to mean more than it does. I'm still mostly thinking they planned to reveal Venom at some point after early August so they wouldn't let the artists use him on a cover. Either way, is he's not in the game he's pretty much guaranteed to be DLC before 2018 and we probably have either Winter Soldier or Ant-Man in his place (we don't have any real reason to suspect MH is DLC yet).

I know it'd be disappointing to have to wait on him (and pretty scummy on Capcom's part) but it definitely would not be the end of the world.
 
Skab said:
wow people are really upset about a fucking comic cover
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It's little things like these that make people question the overall product. If Capcom and Marvel can't get these things right, how are they going to do right with the whole product?

If the entire game was looking good so far then these covers would have been ignored. As it is, it's just another thing to add to the pile of what's wrong with the game in general (from PR/marketing to the actual product).
 
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