IntelliHeath
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At least, they are allowing us to turn easy super and easy combo off.
Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster |DT2| oh dear...
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At least, they are allowing us to turn easy super and easy combo off.
Tizoc
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That image isn't directly referring to that; what it means is to not overthink about some things.
Also the Spidey Lvl. 3 super is just some cinematic thing visually to me so I couldn't care less about where those bombs or whatever came from.
For that matter, Gamma Crush is one of coolest supers in fighting games.
IntelliHeath
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Are we going to share Marvel Vs. Capcom arts?
FadedRevolution
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So dope.
Karsticles
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Why do Dante fans always draw him with Morrigan?
Tizoc
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Part of that has to do with how DMC fans hadn't played Darkstalkers series extensively and thus Morrigan was their one exposure to the franchise.
Couple that with the fact that she is some demoness being and it adds up.
Then again I'll never know why Riven and Zac get paired in League of legends fanart, so at the end of the day, some things aren't worth pondering about.
Karsticles
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IntelliHeath
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^ that's funny to see that. People complained about MVCI getting so many MVC3 characters but they doesn't understand why UMVC3's roster is so great because they already have many heavy hitters and popular characters so it's not surprising to see them coming back in tenfolds. Hopefully we would get rest of U/MVC3 characters via DLC along with newcomers.
christiankid7
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Reference to Nevan?
Shipping fantasies?
Pairing up similar Capcom franchises?
Maybe one of these
Jawmuncher
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Functions over characters. Quicker to reuse Vets with new changes than make new characters. More than likely a rushed development cycle as well.
I stand by the Roster being the weakest aspect. A lot could've been forgiven had they came around with a better balance of old and new.
That doesn't really work when most complaints are at the lack of newcomers in the base roster.
The problem with the veterans is they disregarded some of the heaviest hitter to save as DLC.
The only pass is really Xmen and FF due to a ban that was probably still in place when this got greenlit.
Dante is the most famous demon hunter from the Capcom side (also half demon himself) and Morrigan is the most famous succubus from Capcom.
People like to pair Dante and Bayonetta for obvious reasons.
If we are talking about pairing a Marvel character with a Capcom character maybe but Dormammu isn't exactly a demon.Yeah, I mean isn't the obvious pairing this one?
Probably all of these.
IntelliHeath
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I'm not even talking about those problem. I made a comment toward to people who complained about Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite as Copy and Paste game which had nothing to do with heavy hitters being excluded from the base roster. It's probably because they had way too high expectation for the game.
Jawmuncher
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I don't see the issue in anyone expecting a bit more from the title. Especially when at the end of the day capcom want's people's money for said product. Doesn't help when a lot of expectations weren't even that high too begin with. Even at reveal we were all only expecting about 30-36 characters at most and knew a good chunk would be recycled after seeing the first gameplay.
IntelliHeath
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Unfortunately, I do. People expected Capcom and Marvel to have, at least 50-70%, newcomers on their roster when they already added many requested newcomers. Essentially they would bring them back for MVCI so that would led us to have high amounts of veterans this time. Also MVC3 happened at perfect timing which allowed the team to redo entire roster and start all over again from there, comparing to "copy and pasta" MVC2, so that's why MVC3 had way better roster in the franchise because they had to start from scratch and add important characters (like Thor, Dr. Strange, etc).
I would say that you are wrong about expectation statement because I know many people had high expectation after first trailer with Mega Man X, Captain Marvel, Ryce's comment about the roster due to Jedah's inclusion, etc. Let not pretend that people with high expectation didn't exists in first place.
Don't get me wrong. I still think they should include Sigma, Black Panther, Star-Lord, Ms. Marvel and SFV in base roster but they didn't. I'm not going to mope about it so I essentially move on.
EdIted: I'm pretty sure some levelheaded members here actually expected high ratio of veterans over newcomers, like me.
Jawmuncher
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It ends up just coming down to what you want with the game. I do see the more positive impressions on the roster are those who got their faves back and the like. Or absolutely put gameplay over anything else. So i can't blame anyone for expecting more. Especially when MVC3 and SFV (even if it had less) were able to better balance old with new.
Yep. I see the potential in the game. Even if i'm a bit bummed and would have liked a bit more from it. I've said before it's coming down to who we have left on the base roster.
I can wait if they end up pulling Monster Hunter and Venom as DLC for whatever reason. I really hope they don't though. Since IMO, this game needs more like that at launch to shake things up.
christiankid7
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Which major is the very first after the game releases? TFC?
In MVC3's case it was Final Round, I believe. Hopefully Infinite will have its BIONIC AAAAAARM hype moment like 3 did early on. Not sure it would bring in casuals but
...actually, how well do you think the game will do competitively?
In MVC3's case it was Final Round, I believe. Hopefully Infinite will have its BIONIC AAAAAARM hype moment like 3 did early on. Not sure it would bring in casuals but
...actually, how well do you think the game will do competitively?
Jawmuncher
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The gameplay seems to be well received. Especially when compared to say SFxT in the time frame. I think it'll do fine and will most likely unseat UMVC3 from here on out at EVO. The only thing i'm unsure of is if it'll hold the kind of numbers UMVC3 did for so long. A good chunk of that might depend on the future DLC presented.
IntelliHeath
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Sometime it just seems that people can't even move on. I meant people are going to complains about it almost everyday and not able to move on. I meant, take a look at Jawmuncher and his Snake posts. It have been three years ever since Smash 4 came out and he can't even move on!
christiankid7
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Not that it really matters, but could it unseat SFV at Evo 2018?
Or will each SF game always bring in the most entrants at Evos?
Or will each SF game always bring in the most entrants at Evos?
Jawmuncher
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Never accept defeat.
Regina will make it into MvC and Snake will return to Smash
I thought SFV had been unseated at EVO?
Might have just be imagining it.
Regina will make it into MvC and Snake will return to Smash
I thought SFV had been unseated at EVO?
Might have just be imagining it.
IntelliHeath
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At least, you might have a good shot with Smash Switch tho. I'm still rooting for him if it's possible.
IntelliHeath
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That's weird since no X-Men and F4 is part of few first leaks we had for the game. There is no excuse for people to expect otherwise.
Sebastiano
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Murata should be the only Capcom designer for fighting games.
Jawmuncher
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Xmen and FF were out of the picture as soon as I saw it was Iron Man vs Ryu and not Wolverine.
DR2K
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This is before the leaks. When everyone had hope
I honestly thought that since there were no X-Men that it would make more room for characters that haven't been in the series like Dardevil. I was wrong.
IntelliHeath
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Yup, Not having X-Men and F4 being part of the roster actually caused many people to raise their expectation higher for newcomers from Marvel side, like Ms. Marvel, Daredevil, Black Panther, Star Lord, and more. Many people were so wrong on that matters.
I'm in similar boat since I actually believe that we are going to get Daredevil, Star-Lord and Black Panther being part of base roster.
Doctrine Dark
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Yeah, I accepted no X-Men/Doom ages ago. Their issue was seemingly not trying to make up for their omission with interesting picks. The roster is just very dry. Not the worst, but nothing special.
Obviously it was absurd for anyone to expect more than half the roster to be newcomers when there were so many popular and important characters that had to be brought back from the previous game, but it's just as ridiculous that there are only 6 new characters on the starting roster. That's far below anyone's expectations. I've read dozens of fan-made rosters and wishlists over the years, and even the relatively reasonable ones had more than three newcomers per side. It's legitimately embarrassing.
I don't think anyone expected the roster to turn out this way. Not only in Marvel's side (which is bonkers, the lack of characters like Ms. Marvel, any Inhuman or characters like Daredevil or Luke Cage) but the Capcom side as well (Capcom has so many darned IPs that have never been represented and we get... another Darkstalkers character and a Monster Hunter rep).
Honestly, if indeed all Season 1 DLC is "all-new", then I feel like it should have been part of the base roster. And I know DLC doesn't work that way, but I can't shake the feeling.
Honestly, if indeed all Season 1 DLC is "all-new", then I feel like it should have been part of the base roster. And I know DLC doesn't work that way, but I can't shake the feeling.
IntelliHeath
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I know some people are aware of my new avatar. It's from this picture,
It's pretty much summarized on how I felt about the hype train and development itself. (Also it's just perfect since it had two of my favorite characters as well)
It's pretty much summarized on how I felt about the hype train and development itself. (Also it's just perfect since it had two of my favorite characters as well)
Doctrine Dark
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Sigma being DLC was the biggest red-flag initially. We just overlooked it at the time.
who is that lady at top right?
IntelliHeath
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one of several most overrated character, Linn Kurosawa. :kappa:
christiankid7
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I wonder which would be hated more
A roster of 34, with only 6 newcomers
or a roster of 34 with only 6 veterans
A roster of 34, with only 6 newcomers
or a roster of 34 with only 6 veterans
IntelliHeath
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only if I assume 6 veterans as Ryu, Captain America, Thor, Hulk, Spider-Man, Iron Man?
The latter would be amazing in my eyes. I'd be so down for that.
As an all-star fighter roster, my preference would be the second one. I'd prefer a more balanced number, tho.
People would freak the flip out with the second one, especially if the veterans are as boring as Marvel-side...
christiankid7
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there would have to be parity in that hypothetical, so 3 Marvel vets 3 Capcom vets
Even Polygon & Eurogamer warned us about the Fox characters being absent on Day 1. Hell, anyone following Marvel's games for the last 2-3 years saw it coming (though I believe some were in denial).
I am sure all the hipsters here will say they would prefer the latter but in general that game would receive more hate than even MVCI.
6 veterans is a joke bigger than 6 newcomers. So we gonna have what, Ryu, Iron Man, Spider Man, Dante, Morrigan and Hulk? People gonna lose their minds over no MMX, Chun Li, Zero, Thor, Captain America, Chris, Wesker, Akuma, Dr Strange, all the X Men, no Dr Doom, Hawkeye, Thanos, Captain Marvel, Ultron, Haggar, Frank West, Sigma, Black Panther, Rocket Raccoon, Ghost Rider etc etc.
I agree that only 6 veterans would be awful, but X, Captain Marvel, Ultron, Sigma, and Black Panther are newcomers.
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