Doctrine Dark
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Tekken 7 is barebones as fuck. That is not a good example to mention.
Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster |DT2| oh dear...
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miller.skippins
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compared to netherrealms games...maybe, compared to capcom games? My oven has more modes and features than Capcom recent fighters' outings.
Turbanator
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People who say Carol looks like Jean must be memeing or some shit. The only things they have in common are being flying girls with "hidden" cosmic fire powers.
Is that a sentinel on the sign in the top right?
Arcade mode is the only mode in T7 that SFV doesn't have an equivalent to (yet).
Turbanator
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Oops DP
JeTmAn81
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She's fine in Ultimate, IMO. A great character that requires a good player to do well with. Infinity Storm meter fill into Dark Phoenix might be OP though.
christiankid7
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It looks like just a generic sign saying calling all superstars.
What it reminded me of first though was Daredevil with Radar sense
the sewing business is totally an X-23 tease 
She worked in a 3v3 type game because A) You had snapbacks to snap her in. B) You had two meatshields to get through her. C) You didn't have to use her as an assist. D) Meter gain was high enough for her to be a viable pick.
In this game, playing Phoenix on your team is just putting yourself on an even bigger handicap. It's bad enough playing with one less assist, imagine having to not be able to use Tag mechanics freely because of fear of happy birthday on Phoenix. Not to mention that meter gain is much lower and only goes up to 4. And there is no XF either which is really what made Phoenix extremely powerful, her Dark Phoenix self is just a top tier character (that can be controlled, chipped and defended against) but Dark Phoenix plus XF is the real win condition.
My point is that Phoenix in Marvel 3 was made with Marvel 3 mechanics in mind. Copy/pasting her in would be a disaster, they would have to rework her mechanics.
In this game, playing Phoenix on your team is just putting yourself on an even bigger handicap. It's bad enough playing with one less assist, imagine having to not be able to use Tag mechanics freely because of fear of happy birthday on Phoenix. Not to mention that meter gain is much lower and only goes up to 4. And there is no XF either which is really what made Phoenix extremely powerful, her Dark Phoenix self is just a top tier character (that can be controlled, chipped and defended against) but Dark Phoenix plus XF is the real win condition.
My point is that Phoenix in Marvel 3 was made with Marvel 3 mechanics in mind. Copy/pasting her in would be a disaster, they would have to rework her mechanics.
DerekOfTheDykes
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Guys I refuse to believe that this game has an Options menu
I mean it's Capcom so you know they'll probably just not do it
I didn't see a trailer for Pausing either so we should just assume it doesn't exist either
EDIT: Also Gamora is an obvious X-23 clone she even shares all her animations and stuff
I mean it's Capcom so you know they'll probably just not do it
I didn't see a trailer for Pausing either so we should just assume it doesn't exist either
EDIT: Also Gamora is an obvious X-23 clone she even shares all her animations and stuff
captain marvel's feel really reminds me of dr doom more than any other char
her weird lightning attack thing is basically just 8way footdive in how she converts it into full big ass combos with a super strong hitbox and then her beam is almost exactly the same as plasma beam in terms of feel (though the angles are way better).
but even then that doesn't consider her normals or the projectile barrier.
she's really weird feelin' as a cohesive whole and i'm actually surprised she's the main character of the marvel side considering that
her weird lightning attack thing is basically just 8way footdive in how she converts it into full big ass combos with a super strong hitbox and then her beam is almost exactly the same as plasma beam in terms of feel (though the angles are way better).
but even then that doesn't consider her normals or the projectile barrier.
she's really weird feelin' as a cohesive whole and i'm actually surprised she's the main character of the marvel side considering that
Doctrine Dark
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The only mode worth a damn is Treasure Battle. Arcade Mode isn't even as good as the previous Tekken game, Story Mode was okay, and now Tekken Ball is $10 unless you got the Season Pass. So "compared to Capcom games" doesn't mean much of anything. By its own merit, for a game that kept getting delayed, its single player content is average.
There's only 6 character that are completely new to the Marvel series (Captain Marvel, Gamora, Ultron, X, Jedah, "Hunter") and theoretically 2 that are new to 3D (Venom, Thanos). Everyone else is straight from Marvel 3.
That'd be 8 out of 34, assuming they don't pull out some non-leaked characters out of nowhere (which doesn't seem to be the case, since everything's lining up with the leaks).
JeTmAn81
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I think it could work, with some tuning perhaps. You have to give things up to get Dark Phoenix so you still have to earn it. Also, DP with various Stone effects could be nuts. Feather mashing + Reality Storm projectiles = ???
Turbanator
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T7 is the most disappointing fighter I've ever played.
And I say that as somebody who was hype for (and still love) SFV, as well as somebody who, before T7 became the mess it is now, called Tekken his favorite fighting series.
And I say that as somebody who was hype for (and still love) SFV, as well as somebody who, before T7 became the mess it is now, called Tekken his favorite fighting series.
christiankid7
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I wonder if those things that attack Spider-man and Chris in that clip are symbiote soldiers or RE zombies. Too blurry to make it out
miller.skippins
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i know we are going slight OT but a casual that doesn't want to play online can still play treasure battle offline to earn customization and shit.....also, the amount of fanservice (tekken cinematics, music, ost) in the package..
Casuals that don't want to play online in SFV can.........do what exactly? (Please don't say survival mode. Playing SFV's survival is equivalent to waterboarding).
And then's the fear i have with MvCI. There's gonna be the (Shitty) story mode. And an arcade mode (it will be crazy if that's omitted after SFV's debacle). And..............Zzzzzz.....
Most definitely Symbiote Soldiers, their gait is very "monstrous" in a Venom-sort of way and the way there seems to be padding around the body (particularly the legs) reminds me of military fatigues or whatever they're called.
I thought they learned something constructive after T6, but they actually just rehashed the same shit they did in T6 again.
The "Story" mode is a joke, it's barely coherent at best and is literally mish mash of past games CG just thrown in along with some truly terrible story narration that makes it sound like the most uninterested man in the world reading the script off a back of a shampoo bottle while taking a shit.
Arcade mode is nonexistent, if you count playing a single fight for a character and unlocking a terrible out of context CG video.
treasure battle is just fucking survival mode.
I cant count how many times I've seen "T7 is better than SFV because of Arcade" have not actually played T7 or it's garbage modes.
Treasure battle is fun, but I could really care less for unlocking bullet club shirts for the entire cast and then playing lagging, disconnecting online matches against scuba akumas, (at least it's appropriate since I'm playing all my matches underwater)
Port T5 DR from the PS2 to PS4 and we'll be good again.
Also....Where the fuck is Julia!?
miller.skippins
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let's have a bet.
Arcade Mode, Story Mode, Versus. Online (Ranked, Unrank, Lobby), Training, Challenge.
20 characters at launch. 7 backgrounds. No additional outfits for any characters out of the box and only 1 additional color. All paid DLCs afterwards.
No legacy controller support. SFV basic online lobby. Rage quit system not working at launch
That's about it.
What's the bet because I will take it.
miller.skippins
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you are entitled to your opinion but that's some olympic level mental gymnastic to make SFV looks good if i ever sees one..
Again, if you really think that way....your view's your view.
Turbanator
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There are already more than 20 characters announced, not even including DLC...
The current rumor is 32-34 at launch, & I'm pretty sure we're already past 20. We also have 3 additional colors per character so far (correct me if I'm mistaken). On top of that, you forgot Gallery Mode.
christiankid7
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20 characters at launch even though we currently have 27...how does that work?
Doctrine Dark
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Having more modes than SFV literally means nothing. If being better than SFV's offline content is all that can be said, then yeah, it really ain't impressive.
miller.skippins
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I will change my avatar to whatever you want for the rest of 2017.
But what's your proposition? How many stuff do you think MvCI will have at launch?
Also, i wanna add another thing....i'm 99.9% sure the online will be busted on the first 2 days of the launch.
We know that there's more modes than that: Story, Arcade, Versus, Training, Mission, Online and Collection. This was in the early materials, specifically because of the SFV issues.
We also know of 8 stages and there will be more. We know that characters have more than two colours. We know of at least 30 characters.
What the heck are you on about?
EDIT: Uhh, I mean, I'll take your bet?
christiankid7
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DerekOfTheDykes
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Smart call, as several of the already revealed characters are almost assuredly clever fakes just there to fool people.
Also, I notice you didn't list Options mode. Glad to see we agree. Can't trust Capcom to put in Options.
Bet = taken. Any amount of money.
miller.skippins
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sigma's announced and he's DLC though...
miller.skippins
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DerekOfTheDykes
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27... Sigma, BP, and 4 other newcomers are DLC THIS year, which must be Ultron, X, Cap Marvel, and Jedah...
Yup. There's a fake character on the roster. That sneaky Capcom. Who's the fake?!?
EDIT: Take it back, Gamora is one of the pass characters, Captain Marvel is the fake because she was clearly cleverly rotoscoped over footage of Phoenix.
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You could literally count the characters in the OP! Even without the DLC it's more than 20! The fuck are you on? Are you high?
miller.skippins
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We know that there's more modes than that: Story, Arcade, Versus, Training, Mission, Online and Collection. This was in the early materials, specifically because of the SFV issues.
We also know of 8 stages and there will be more. We know that characters have more than two colours. We know of at least 30 characters.
What the heck are you on about?
EDIT: Uhh, I mean, I'll take your bet?
i have so little faith in capcom now that i don't believe them. SFV's announcement also list 'Extra Battle' among other modes....and that's still MIA.
Many of the characters and stages, colors will be part of Paid DLC1 or preorder Bonus DLC or Collector's edition DLC equivilant.
MiguelMexMIstery
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What's happening here...
can I join the bet
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Right now we are at 26 characters and it's not including any dlc characters yet. If you still insists to take two characters away then that would be 24. That's still even more than what you listed.
For comparison (counting crossover firsts)
XvSF
Cyclops, Gambit, Juggernaut, Magneto, Rogue, Sabretooth, Storm, Wolverine
Akuma, Cammy, Charlie, Chun-Li, Dhalsim, Ken, M. Bison, Ryu, Zangief
MSHvSF
Blackheart, Captain America, Hulk, Omega Red, Spider-Man
Dan Hibiki, Norimaro, Sakura, Shuma-Gorath
MvC
Venom, War Machine
Captain Commando, Jin Saotome, Mega Man, Morrigan, Roll, Strider Hiryu
MvC2
Cable, Colossus (crossover debut), Doctor Doom (crossover debut), Iceman (crossover debut), Iron Man (crossover debut), Marrow, Psylocke (crossover debut), Sentinel (crossover debut), Silver Samurai (crossover debut), Thanos (crossover debut), Bone Claw Wolverine
Anakaris, Amingo, B. B. Hood, Felicia, Guile, Hayato, Jill Valentine, Ruby Heart, Servbot, Sonson, Tron Bonne
MvC3
Deadpool, Dormammu, MODOK, Phoenix, She-Hulk, Super-Skrull, Taskmaster, Thor, X-23
Albert Wesker, Amaterasu, Chris, C. Viper, Dante, Haggar, Hsien-Ko, Nathan Spencer, Trish, Viewtiful Joe, Zero
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XvSF: 8 (Marvel) + 9 (Capcom)
MSHvSF: 5 (Marvel) + 4 (Capcom)
MvC: 2 (Marvel) + 6 (Capcom)
MvC2: 3 + 8 (Marvel) + 11 (Capcom)
MvC3: 9 (Marvel) + 11 (Capcom)
christiankid7
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So, who is on this 20 character launch roster? Man, it sucks that we gained 4 characters but somehow lost 7 from SDCC
DerekOfTheDykes
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Right now we are at 26 characters and it's not including any dlc characters yet. If you still insists to take two characters away then that would be 24. That's still even more than what you listed.
X, Jedah, Ultron, and Gamora are obviously 2017 Pass characters
And Captain Marvel isn't real, she's fake, that's why she's so much like Phoenix, it's a blatant fake character
It's all part of the conspiracy to make the most disappointing game possible
Get with the program, Heath
So, who is on this 20 character launch roster? Man, it sucks that we gained 4 characters but somehow lost 7 from SDCC
I thought it was weird when Ono walked on stage and forced the Marvel guys at gun point to deannounce characters.
Avatar bet.
Each thing one of us gets wrong, the bet is extended 1 month (so if I get 2 right and you get 1 right, then you have wear avatar for 1 month versus if I get 3 right and you get 1 right, then you wear for 2 months).
I am not going to take the one for characters because the game already has more than 20 characters.
Here's what I am betting on:
*On the modes that you listed, I bet we will have at least one more mode than the ones you listed.
*On the number of stages, I bet we will have more than 7 stages in the game.
*On the number of alts/colors/skins, I bet we will have more than 2 (original and mirror alt) colors per character.
*Online lobby will be more in depth or better than SFV's.
Turbanator
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It's not meant to make SFV good, it's meant to really show how much I disliked T7.
From the top of my head, what I hated most about it was:
-Every newcomer is either bland or unlikable.
-Akuma is straight copy-pasted from SFIV rather than properly rebuilt as a true-to-Tekken character.
-The story mode was a bore with an ending you could see 20 years ago (SFV's wasn't great either, but at least it had a bit of comedy so you weren't contemplating whether to keep watching or press skip).
-The character episodes somehow managed to outdo the shittiness of T6's endings.
-This was the killer for me, I got burned out of it in like a week. I've been playing Tekken for about 5 years. Watching T7 since it was announced. I've waited 3 years for a game that let me down more with every announcement. I finally play it, and it's the same shit people have been playing since 2004. I put hundreds of hours in TTT2 and TR, and then I gotta move to a game that is just T6 with more 2D emphasis instead of the 3D stuff that made T4 cool? Why not just keep playing the old stuff then? Nothing about the game tells me it's better than T5DR on the damn PSP, which actually manages to have more content than this "product of love and dedication". I've put, at the very least, 600 hours into Tekken since I was introduced to it, but it took me 15 to get turned off by the lack of any innovation at all.
There's more to say, but I don't come to the internet to talk about things I don't like. That's why my ideas are a little everywhere in that rant. I'd rather just move on from Tekken until they can try and breathe some new life into whatever they do next.
But don't let me ruin it for you. Your experiences with the series likely don't mirror mine, and you may love or hate this game in your own way. If you like T7, then I'm happy somebody can enjoy it. I'm just saying that I'm unsatisfied with the current direction of the series, but ymmv.
That's like my 4th extended ramble today, and I'm spent lol.
miller.skippins
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guys, i am not trying to be a troll or anything...i have more original versus games bought at launch then anyone here...(not shown, JP Dreamcast version of MvC1 & 2 somewhere)...
I really really REALLY want MvCI to succeed. But i just don't believe it. Not for a second. I know i sound like a 'flat earth' believer but at this point in time, my faith with Capcom is below zero. It's at negative right now. I know my 'downer' are enraging some of the 'defenders' and i will gladly eat crow if proven wrong at launch, but at this point in time, MvCI is a crash & burn product IMO.
I really really REALLY want MvCI to succeed. But i just don't believe it. Not for a second. I know i sound like a 'flat earth' believer but at this point in time, my faith with Capcom is below zero. It's at negative right now. I know my 'downer' are enraging some of the 'defenders' and i will gladly eat crow if proven wrong at launch, but at this point in time, MvCI is a crash & burn product IMO.
miller.skippins
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you got it bruh..bet's on. Please PM me on MvCI launch week though as i will not buying it to verify....or keep track of this thread. Thanks.
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