Also keep in mind that all of SFV's characters were made from scratch. MvCI relies on UMvC3 assets for the veterans of that game, which would help in alleviating some of the leg-work.
Marvel vs Capcom Infinite Gameplay/Pre-Launch Discussion Thread
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ElBoxyBrown
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Story mode will probably be fine. At best it'll be an enjoyable fanservice experience.
Callibretto
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I'd love to have playable Yondu, seems like he'd be pretty unique in fighting game. A playable Hulkbuster would be cool too.
DR2K
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All fighting games get docked when they lack comprehensive training modes.
Those visuals aren't even impressive on a PS3.
ElBoxyBrown
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I worry for the hardcore Marvel fan that expects the story mode to be like Injustice.
Oh man, those people would be in for a disappointment.
I was disapponted to hear that it seems the story mode still has long load times. I was hoping that was just a demo thing. While I prefer the silliness of something like sfv it was a mess on the technical end compared to NRS and tekken high production values. And it doesn't seem they've improved for marvel...
Jawmuncher
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Yeah. From what we have seen. MvC:I won't come close to that. It'll still be fun.
But the Injustice 2 story legit had me hooked.
You mean the story where
Batman is practically a Mary Sue who was somehow able to beat Wonder Woman?
Where somehow Harley Quinn was forgiven despite all the blood on her ledger?
Batman is so strict on his no kill policy, he won't even entertain the thought to kill an omnicidal maniac that is Brainac?
The Lords or Order prefer that Brainac cause mass extinction?
That Batman was never presented as being in the wrong? (example, Brother Eye's creation is seen more as an area of grey in the comics than the game. Another example is not even giving Damian a reason for the no kill policy)
Like Infinite doesn't have a high bar to jump over if we're gonna compare its story mode to Injustice's.
Also I realize, the Marvel game will heroes fight the bad guys, while the heroes fight each other in the DC game! What timeline is this???
ElBoxyBrown
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You mean the story where
Batman is practically a Mary Sue who was somehow able to beat Wonder Woman?
Where somehow Harley Quinn was forgiven despite all the blood on her ledger?
Batman is so strict on his no kill policy, he won't even entertain the thought to kill an omnicidal maniac that is Brainac?
The Lords or Order prefer that Brainac cause mass extinction?
That Batman was never presented as being in the wrong? (example, Brother Eye's creation is seen more as an area of grey in the comics than the game. Another example is not even giving Damian a reason for the no kill policy)
Like Infinite doesn't have a high bar to jump over if we're gonna compare its story mode to Injustice's.
It's still written like a Justice League episode or anything from DC animation. Stupid comic book shit is to be expected when dealing with these properties but if you make it compelling then it's easy to overlook it. Marvel's problem is gonna be to convince Marvel fans to care about the Capcom characters. If a Marvel fan doesn't care about Capcom then I don't see the story mode being an enjoyable experience for them.
lol injustice story wasn't even that good lets get real here guys. It was fun and thats all it needed to be, same with infinite its going to be fun.
Jawmuncher
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Yeah that's the big issue. We've even had people in threads wondering why capcom is still even a part of this roster and story wise.
I agree with the ElBroxyBrown.
Injustice has a trash story, but its production values were ace. I... don't think MvCI will be that polished?
yeah it is definitely polished, i 100% agree. As long as it has some fun scenes then it should be alright.
ElBoxyBrown
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If they didn't care then this would have been a Marvel-only fighting game.
Jawmuncher
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It all depends on how much they've learned from the SFV story mode. It was pretty whack even when compared to like Mortal Kombat on PS3 which is basically what people consider the first game to do it (Even if technically isn't it).
I'm expecting some decent moments of fan service and not much more.
I'm expecting some decent moments of fan service and not much more.
Doctrine Dark
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I can already tell the story is something I'll likely play once and be done with afterwards.
Is doing it more than once normal for other fighting games?
Jawmuncher
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To be fair I don't think i've ever played any of these fighting game story modes more than once. Unless we'd count skipping all cutscenes for SFV so I could get the fight money (Had original on PC and got another copy on PS4). Then doing all the alternate fights in Injustice 2 for the achievement.
ElBoxyBrown
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Some people like to go through a story mode a second time on harder difficulty.
It is for SFV if you want more Fight Money (albeit on a harder difficulty).
Which is funny how people were surprised that MK had a story despite them going into their lore starting in Deadly Alliance/Deception/Armageddon. Wasn't like Midway/NRS just decided to do so.
Game will definitely review well, only big knock is the mostly rehashed roster. All the modes are there, it has a story mode (quality of said story mode is mostly irrelevant when it comes to review scores since it's just becoming a standard now), graphics have improved and people have gotten hands on more than XGard, and previews are all positive.
High 70s at worst.
Doesn't mean it will sell well.
High 70s at worst.
Doesn't mean it will sell well.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I'm all in for Capcom's cheesy story plot for any fighting game so I can see that MvC:I story mode would be outright cheesy.
I'm hoping its just complete surprises
Jawmuncher
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Yeah. I don't see it reviewing any worse than SFV did really.
It has more content but it has other failings so it'll kinda even out.
Turbanator
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SFV got a 77. Marvel will be safe review wise. The biggest blow to the game (horrid graphics) has been moderately dealt with. They're not garbage, but they're still not too great.
I think it'll tie T7 in reviews.
I think it'll tie T7 in reviews.
i dont know if its a vocal minority thing going on right now (since dahbomb for example isnt here) but im literally scratching my head here at this talk about story modes in fighting games. Playing it multiple times, what?
Like, fine they are there, but the last 2 pages are talking like its the main part of fighting games and im here going "the fuck is going on here?"
I imagine that its what first person shooter fans must feel when people go in those threads to talk about the single player parts... and even there, even the single player fans (for example, me, dont do FPS MP) know fully well the part they like is a very small part of the game, and certainly the least important.
But here, people are acting like the story mode is what matters, and the multiplayer is an...afterthought? I genuilly feel like im in bizarro land right now.
I have half a mind to blame millenials for this
Like, fine they are there, but the last 2 pages are talking like its the main part of fighting games and im here going "the fuck is going on here?"
I imagine that its what first person shooter fans must feel when people go in those threads to talk about the single player parts... and even there, even the single player fans (for example, me, dont do FPS MP) know fully well the part they like is a very small part of the game, and certainly the least important.
But here, people are acting like the story mode is what matters, and the multiplayer is an...afterthought? I genuilly feel like im in bizarro land right now.
I have half a mind to blame millenials for this
i dont know if its a vocal minority thing going on right now (since dahbomb for example isnt here) but im literally scratching my head here at this talk about story modes in fighting games. Playing it multiple times, what?
Like, fine they are there, but the last 2 pages are talking like its the main part of fighting games and im here going "the fuck is going on here?"
I imagine that its what first person shooter fans must feel when people go in those threads to talk about the single player parts... and even there, even the single player fans (for example, me, dont do FPS MP) know fully well the part they like is a very small part of the game, and certainly the least important.
But here, people are acting like the story mode is what matters, and the multiplayer is an...afterthought? I genuilly feel like im in bizarro land right now.
I have half a mind to blame millenials for this
Story mode is what matters to sales.
FPS campaigns are usually fun and you can actually learn the game through it. There is also a level of progression of the mechanics in these games usually (you start off with a pistol, get better weapons and upgrades).
Fighting game campaigns aren't fun and are just a bunch of random AI fights throughout. There is no sense of progression in mechanics. They have to be carried hard by the story/writing/characters because everything else is a wash.
Fighting game campaigns aren't fun and are just a bunch of random AI fights throughout. There is no sense of progression in mechanics. They have to be carried hard by the story/writing/characters because everything else is a wash.
Real talk, MK9 set the bar too high haha. Capcom still hasn't caught up 6 years later. Consumer expect that level of quality with games now.
when did you get un-juniored :O
Jawmuncher
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Yeah when it comes to fighting games. Story mode and single player modes have been the biggest factor in all of the recent games selling well. It's why MK has taken over SF by a large amount now.
The problem with fighting games as of late when it comes to selling to the masses is the skill ceiling they have compared to FPS games. You play online in a shooter and in either TDM or FFA you're gonna get some sort of progress. You don't even neee SP since you can play with a group of others.
Fighting games on the other hand turn into getting chewed and spit out unless you're willing to practice and work up higher and even then there's always someone better who'll make you feel like a scrub.
The problem with fighting games as of late when it comes to selling to the masses is the skill ceiling they have compared to FPS games. You play online in a shooter and in either TDM or FFA you're gonna get some sort of progress. You don't even neee SP since you can play with a group of others.
Fighting games on the other hand turn into getting chewed and spit out unless you're willing to practice and work up higher and even then there's always someone better who'll make you feel like a scrub.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
For me, I would like to see Sigma, Black Panther, Hunter and Venom getting in, and last two would be completely surprise but I wouldn't expect it otherwise tho.
Not good, for the most part.
But it's not only Story Mode, it's the whole host of single player modes that the "modern fighting game revival" kinda stopped including.
Lots of games, especially the old, kinda bad Mortal Kombat games had tons and tons of single player and party-like modes and stuff. 'Cause the games weren't really all that great and just multiplayer didn't always cut it.
Then SFIV came out and it was what every other game wanted to be! It was Street Fighter, back from the grave!! And the idea of party or single player modes kinda fell to the wayside? Like III it was barebones in modes, eschewing all of the interesting modes from the Alpha series for reasons.
And then MK9 came out, and wow, it was as fully featured as any other MK game! With a story like MKvDC! And more than that, it was good! And suddenly, SSFIV's offerings seemed... lacking. And then SFV happened.
Wow, John D moving up in the world, getting parody accounts and everything. From humble beginnings to leaking eSports proposals!
EDIT: That's not a great parody account. Not funny half the time.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
LOL
That was hilarious so I wonder how many people would assume it comes from a legit account?
That account is amazing.
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