I guess it depends on how quickly Capcom can react to such developments. Obviously they're already working on the Spidey infinite, but it seems like the HSD glitch started to pick up steam recently. As mentioned already, I wouldn't be surprised if we end up waiting until the update for the second batch of Season 1 characters before it gets fixed (factoring in the certification process for firmware updates). But hey, if Capcom can get on top of the HSD glitch sooner in time for the first batch of Season 1 characters, more power to them.
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Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite |OT| Marvel vs. Capcom: 4 Female Characters
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Doctrine Dark
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Sonic is the best.
See...this shit right here drives me fucking CRAZY. Who in the fuck thought it would be a good idea to have tagging, in a game where you get endless tagging constantly, eat your inputs?
Take for example fighting Strider/Jedah. Strider will do the derp teleport dive kick. Just dash any direction and punish, right? NOPE, Strider tags, your inputs get fucked, and now you've been hit.
I just can't...I know, just hold light punch. But online, and in a game this frantic, reacting to the tag screen with a held button is very hard AND risky
Game has way more problems than just HSD glitch reset.
Like straight up talking about bug/glitches here not even talking about some characters being way better than others and stuff or the way this game is shaping up to be in terms of meta (ie. super set play heavy) or the imbalance in the stones.
*HSD reset glitch.
*Inescapable "resets" with aerial command grabs. Most notable with stuff like Spider Man and Space cube.
*The Freeze glitch where you can freeze the opponent in place and then do whatever with them. This sets up TOD situations even with tag because you can cover the tag.
*Spider Man actually has Web Ball infinites in Reality Storm and Soul Storm. The issue is definitely with Web Ball which needs fixing.
*Moves that randomly turn into overheads ie. cr.LK into Stinger with Dante.
*Some projectiles being both piercing and negate push block like Gamora's gun or Rocket's gun. There are other examples in the game too like Spider Man's Web Zip. This also results in weird stuff like the characters not even being grabbable while they are doing their projectiles.
*Captain Marvel's armor that gives her semi perma armor when it shouldn't.
*The auto guard from advance guard not working while locked down with supers.
*Dormammu's Fly cancel which is definitely a bug as it doesn't even work if you have stocked spells lol.
*Dr Strange's super straight up not working if you tag at the right time.
*Stuff persisting when they shouldn't persist and general jankness when tag + cinematics are performed.
*Weird shit happening with proximity blocking.
Game isn't a month old and it's already looking to be more busted than Vanilla Marvel 3.
Also dat shader/outline effect:
https://twitter.com/DevSF4/status/917870805723369472
Like straight up talking about bug/glitches here not even talking about some characters being way better than others and stuff or the way this game is shaping up to be in terms of meta (ie. super set play heavy) or the imbalance in the stones.
*HSD reset glitch.
*Inescapable "resets" with aerial command grabs. Most notable with stuff like Spider Man and Space cube.
*The Freeze glitch where you can freeze the opponent in place and then do whatever with them. This sets up TOD situations even with tag because you can cover the tag.
*Spider Man actually has Web Ball infinites in Reality Storm and Soul Storm. The issue is definitely with Web Ball which needs fixing.
*Moves that randomly turn into overheads ie. cr.LK into Stinger with Dante.
*Some projectiles being both piercing and negate push block like Gamora's gun or Rocket's gun. There are other examples in the game too like Spider Man's Web Zip. This also results in weird stuff like the characters not even being grabbable while they are doing their projectiles.
*Captain Marvel's armor that gives her semi perma armor when it shouldn't.
*The auto guard from advance guard not working while locked down with supers.
*Dormammu's Fly cancel which is definitely a bug as it doesn't even work if you have stocked spells lol.
*Dr Strange's super straight up not working if you tag at the right time.
*Stuff persisting when they shouldn't persist and general jankness when tag + cinematics are performed.
*Weird shit happening with proximity blocking.
Game isn't a month old and it's already looking to be more busted than Vanilla Marvel 3.
Also dat shader/outline effect:
https://twitter.com/DevSF4/status/917870805723369472
bet you all staff that is still working on this game is likely working on the dlc characters so fixes might not come for a while. right now the fighting game division is making sure sf5 arcade edition doesn't have another bad launch so the marvel team really does need to get it right when they finally do release a patch.
is that just photoshop or an actual mod in progress?
And sometimes, you know, if they're in the right side of the screen, I assume the tagged character will come from that side, but nope, they come from the other side and I get hit because this game decided to behave weirdly, then some Ghost Rider did the motorcycle super and tagged in, the other character for some reason came from the opposite side, like WTF was that? and not only that, but Ghost Rider locks you down for an eternity and the other character (who came from the other side for no reason) gets to mix you up for free, you can't even breathe. Now I'm really wishing they have stuck to the UMvC3 formula and refined it, at least some of that shit was manageable, but this? Nah, I'll just stick to watching streams whenever I feel like it.
"The fighting game division" related to SFV at Capcom is like few top level positions(directors, designers, etc...) who aren't working on MvCI, and actual development(coding, modeling, bug fixes, etc) is happening at Dimps not Capcom. Being busy with SFV:AE shouldn't be an excuse as to why this isn't getting fixed asap. It's more likely for Monster Hunter World to get in the way of MvCI's development than an outsourced game!
Also, it has become apparent why MvCI was made internally and not outsourced, no one could possibly think about making this game in theory(30 characters, cinematic story mode, online features, etc...) at the price Capcom assigned as a budget.
Don't know if it's a mode or not, but the "outline shader" is a photoshop.
the opposite side tag is one thing that does bother me. if the characters coming in were very unsafe i wouldn't have as much of a problem with it but it's generally safe and you can get a full combo off of the hit from the tag.
Character comes opposite to the direction the point character is facing.
Though that is a pretty awful design decision because characters are changing their faces a lot. Like you basically just dash over someone and tag, it's a free cross up. Then you have situations where the character would auto correct their direction while dashing over.
And yeah the inputs being eaten up and you needing to hold down buttons to make sure your inputs come out is not a good look either.
Though that is a pretty awful design decision because characters are changing their faces a lot. Like you basically just dash over someone and tag, it's a free cross up. Then you have situations where the character would auto correct their direction while dashing over.
And yeah the inputs being eaten up and you needing to hold down buttons to make sure your inputs come out is not a good look either.
Inputs getting eaten up is awful but I'd love to see "holding down buttons" in SFV and GGXrd in situations where inputs get eaten up, it's a nice solution.
When you cross up someone and combo them while they're facing the other side, does their counter assist come from behind you too?!
Man, the bottom of that CSS with the portraits is aces, but the top... I like the idea of the character renders up there with colour to indicate infinity stone, but the text is kinda bad, and assigning characters as "anchor" and "starter" really has no meaning here.
Honestly the bar in the middle would need a rework, in general. The portraits in that style have more room to grow and make unbalanced amounts of characters look better.
I mean, it's all moot since it's a 'shop but whatever.
Yeah this is one thing I legitimately fucking hate about the game. The worst is when you and the opponent tag at the same time... the screen flashes so I think my partner is out, but before I have the chance to react to anything I'm taking damage from a completely different character. Now my only two options are to sit there and lose half my life (or alternatively, die) or waste two bars saving myself. Amazing.
Yeah, I've come to the conclusion that I highly dislike Active Switch and it is the main reason I can't simply find enjoyment in this game. I don't know how it works, I don't know why sometimes I get hit when someone tags in, I don't why I get hit when I tag him, I don't enjoy the constant switching and making safe of everything that shouldn't be safe. I despite Active Switch, too bad it's the main core mechanic in the game, so it's there to stay.
lol. Shits a fucking party game, man
This is a super valid opinion. I loved the concept since the game was first announced but there are definitely pros and cons. For as much sense as it makes on paper the constantly switching sides and inputs being eaten makes it much harder to manage than I think even the developers wanted it to be, especially online. I still enjoy the game overall but there's a lot about it that's starting to turn me away, I need a few days off at the very least.
lol this just happened at WNF and thought it was funny
https://clips.twitch.tv/FitArbitraryTroutPJSalt
https://clips.twitch.tv/FitArbitraryTroutPJSalt
That happened to me in ranked today against ultron, was firebrand floating above and went for some mix ups and I tagged and hear the level 3. Poor jedah.
But it's not biggie when you got soul!
How do you make use of Firebrand's fly? I feel it's too slow, especially on activation.
Doctrine Dark
Member
Honestly, there was no way this game wasn't going to have issues with how open-ended it is.
I'm expecting a lot of stuff to get neutered whenever they decide to update it.
I'm expecting a lot of stuff to get neutered whenever they decide to update it.
Just so everyone knows, if they're just dashing over you and tagging without putting you in blockstun, that's a free throw. Just hold forward and HP and you'll automatically throw the tagging character. Tag attack is 5f startup and throws are 3f. You don't really need to know what direction they'll be coming from, you can just throw.
Shouldnt be low
This game is def hard to enjoy if you dont like the tag system. It doesn't help that it's mechanics are opaque to ppl who dont go out actively seeking the info atm. If you're still interested in making the game work for you check out this vid: https://youtu.be/5BnnZZVSaXE
A lot of ppl cite "tag to make yourself safe" which is not the case in this game the way the phrase sounds. Slamming it in panic is the same as slamming anything in panic. And a lot of the time the question becomes "how can i make the tag safe". A big growing pain for me atm is learning how to tag smartly since i have muscle memory atm for just hitting it to shake things up, but im enjoying the process.
Flashes eating inputs is dumb. I hope they fix it.
For a possible change, what would you guys think of the red health regeneration rate increasing the longer the character was tagged out? It would give an incentive to not tag constantly and make managing your health bar matter more (currently seems like people ignore it completely).
For a possible change, what would you guys think of the red health regeneration rate increasing the longer the character was tagged out? It would give an incentive to not tag constantly and make managing your health bar matter more (currently seems like people ignore it completely).
Yeah, not really seeing the huge issue with tags. It's tough, but we shouldn't expect to be perfect at punishing shit like this after JUST a month. It's gonna take time.
But yeah they should fix the inputs being eaten up since it makes it harder than it should be.
I would make happy birthdays just do slightly more damage or build less meter for the person getting punished. I think the health regen is fine as is, SonicFox already is punishing people for being lazy about managing their red health.
Lights and Waves
Member
If you buy the Blu-ray version of Homecoming and redeem the digital copy, can you still get the Spider-man DLC costume?
I'd also like to know this.
Most do ignore it, but that's not proper. Currently we've found that there are situations where tagging is not optimal (https://twitter.com/Philltastic1/status/917219526772711425), but in general tagging for a mixup is core for this game and prob not gonna change
Yeah that's a pretty exhaustive list
Turbanator
Member
WAAAAAAY too much negative space in this. The middle of the screen and the edges of the bottom half are visually dead. You'd need a MUGEN sized roster to make something like this look good, and even then you'd have an incredibly busy bottom half and a comparitively lifeless top.
If you want to make this look good, the best way is to more or less copy SFV's css. Make it so the top:bottom ratio is like 3:1 and replace the top ones with fully animated models like most fighters today. Thinning out the bottom to make it look longer would give the illusion of a smaller roster, but that'd probably be better than all of the nothing going on in the concept.
Edit: The "filter" itself, while minimal, is cool looking though. It's incredible how much better the game could look with deeper colors and darker outlines.
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
When Ryu suppresses his dark Hado in his level 3 is that a random thing or do certain requirements have to be met?
After the character got knocked down, did fly then went for swoop > tag for the high low hard to block. And then ultron just did lvl 3 lol and got jedah.
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
Thanks
Why not just immediately swoop?
Bringing back DHC would solve it.
Cant you kinda do DHC by tagging your partner in mid-hyper?
TheSpoiler
Member
Still don't get that x dash cancelling thing goddamnit
Thats the problem which is causing the mix ups. DHC wouldnt allow that.
This.
Any time I'm up against a Dante, they will normally panic out million dollars, not much I can do but stand there and eat the mixup.