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Marvel's Spider-Man movies and the Osborne problem...

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Shaanyboi

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So what's the story behind this, I'm not really a comic reader so I'm not familiar with it.

Gwen Stacy, the girl here, was Peter's first love. She got killed in the comics decades ago when Green Goblin dropped her from a bridge. Spider-Man catches her, but the swiftness of the action ended up snapping her neck. It was a really big deal at the time because no hero had ever failed so tragically before.

This comic which came out a decade ago, retconned in a twist that Gwen was having an affair with Osborn months before she died, and that she may have even given birth to his children. And part of Osborn's motivation in killing her was really to cover up the scandal or whatever.

It's really dumb.
 

RS4-

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Mary Jane only has red hair because she turns into Carnage.

Haven't really read the Spiderman comics, but I'm a little tired of the whole Osborn thing.
 

Verelios

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I would love a Spiderman movie featured around the time of (my boy's!) the creation of the sinister six and setting up the stage for a sequel Superior Spiderman.
 

jedezel

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As Spider-man will most likely go to space to fight Thanos in the MCU, we can assume that he will find a symbiot there and bring it back to Earth, no? That is close enough to the origin story of Venom in the original Secret Wars.
And then, we will have our Venom (and maybe Carnage as he is somewhat popular...)

I am surprised by the popularity rate of Octopus in this thread. Way before the Superior Spider-man, I always considered Doc Ock to be one of the main villain of Spider-man, especially because after the death of Norman Osbourn, Harry was not really a threat (memory loss and not very powerfull as a Goblin), so for a loooooong period of time (before the arc with Harry coming back as a real Goblin), we had no Green Goblin and Octopus was the real nemesis of Spider-man (we can see it during the arc of the gang war between Ock and Owl for example).

The Hobgoblin would be a good lead-villain if he is more like the original one (intelligent, calculating mob-boss) than the followers.
 
*INFINITY POST CREDIT*

Avengers have beaten Thanos. But the team is fragmented; what's more, the battle was fought off-world. There's no accolades, because the population of Earth will never really know or understand what happened. The Earth though, is in tatters.

Tony/Carol/Bucky forlornly turns on the TV

I genuinely think they will do Dark Reign after Infinity War, they've done a lot of the stuff to set it up - destroying SHIELD, Civil War splitting the Avengers and creating the Secret Avengers, Ragnarok.

It would be a big shake up, a whole Phase where they're hiding and striking back rather than globetrotting on a billionaires budget.

Whoa, whoa, since when is carnage bottom of the barrel?

Isn't he like the most wanted spider-man villain? Not that I or any of my friends are huge comic buffs, so maybe they're way stupider in the comics, but every spidey fan I know just wants more symbiotes, especially since the only venom we got wasn't very good and we never even saw carnage.

People want him because of "power levels", even though he has none of the attributes of a good villain - no personal connection with the main character, no motivation, no interesting powers, just a bunch of hit points to chip down and damage to deal, like Doomsday in BvS.
 

Verelios

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The Doc Ock in the Body of Peter Parker may be pretty popular, but you cant say that he is the complete same guy who runs around with tentacles made of steel.
SpOck may be pretty popular, but "the real" Doc Ock not so much, even while booth are the same person.

I hope you understand now what I try to say, its a little bit hard to describe.
This is an interesting angle because Doc goes into this very subject in Superior, and I found it hard to disagree(although he was 8/10th's salty). He hasn't changed, his ideology hasn't changed, essentially who he is stayed the same but he's on a better plane because he's Spiderman. I always saw Superior Spiderman as Doc Ock cosplaying Peter to the best of his ability and trying to affirm that he's not wrong, the world is for rejecting him. I mean, yeah, at the end of the day he has to take the mask off and be face to face with a monster, but if Peter went through his experiences he'd probably be about the same
 
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