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[Smiles and Cries]

Its getting crazy in the middle east. Afghanistan, Pakistan, Armenia and Turkey have closed their borders with Iran

Turkey, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Armenia close Iran borders for coronavirus

Iran has confirmed 15 new cases of the virus, bringing the country's total to 43 with a death toll of eight. Most of the infections have been in the Shi'ite Muslim holy city of Qom.

www.jpost.com

A Korean delegation was in the West Bank, so the PA now shut down everywhere they went.

PA shuts facilities visited by Korean tourists amid coronavirus scare

The PA announced on Sunday that no cases of coronavirus have been found in the West Bank so far and said the relevant ministries are actively following up on the matter.

www.jpost.com

At least they aren't screwing around over there.

But isnt Pakistan one of the places still allowing flights from China?

 

[Stouffers]

Woman is savagely beaten in Birmingham ‘coronavirus rage’ attack after stepping in to defend her Chinese friend from racist abuse

A woman was punched and knocked unconscious after she stepped in to defend her Chinese friend who was accused of carrying coronavirus.

Trainee lawyer Meera Solanki, from Solihull, was out with friends celebrating her 29th birthday at Birmingham's Ana Rocha Bar and Gallery on Frederick Street.

Miss Solanki was inside the venue with her friends including Mandy Huang, 28, who was visiting from London, when the group were targeted by a group of Asian men.

Miss Solanki said: 'I was having birthday drinks with a group of of girls and guys including Chinese friends.

'There were a group of Asian men inside the venue - one of them kept coming up to me and harassing me. He seemed to have a problem with me being an Indian girl with a multi-racial group of friends,' she told The Sunday Mercury.

Miss Solanki added: 'We tried to ignore him, even when he tried to spit at one of my friends.

'Towards the end of the night - there was just the three of us girls left including my Chinese friend Mandy.

She continued: 'The man came over again and was being aggressive so we left but he followed us.

For some reason he got really angry with her. He started abusing her calling her a dirty c****.

'He said 'take your f****** coronavirus and take it back home.'

Miss Solanki told how she was 'shocked and angry' and shouted at the man to stop while she tried to push him away.

'He punched me in the head, I hit the pavement and was knocked unconcious,' Miss Solanki said.

Woman is savagely beaten in Birmingham 'coronavirus rage' attack

Trainee lawyer Meera Solanki, from Solihull, was out with friends celebrating her 29th birthday at Birmingham's Ana Rocha Bar and Gallery on Frederick Street.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Damn Alabama

 

[cryptoadam]

But isnt Pakistan one of the places still allowing flights from China?

all I could find is a 2 week article

Pakistan resumes flights to and from China, screens passengers for virus

Pakistan said on Monday it was resuming flights to and from China, three days after it suspended them because of the coronavirus outbreak in China.

www.reuters.com

It seems like they are allowing flights. Keep in mind Pakistan owes China billions of dollars. Money talks just ask the WHO. Pakistan might not want to offend the CCP, but they probably don't give 2 fucks about the Mullaha's in Iran.

 

[Max_Po]

all I could find is a 2 week article

Pakistan resumes flights to and from China, screens passengers for virus

Pakistan said on Monday it was resuming flights to and from China, three days after it suspended them because of the coronavirus outbreak in China.

www.reuters.com

It seems like they are allowing flights. Keep in mind Pakistan owes China billions of dollars. Money talks just ask the WHO. Pakistan might not want to offend the CCP, but they probably don't give 2 fucks about the Mullaha's in Iran.

Our fucking greedy corrupt government has ruined the country taking $$$ from China. Poor Imran Khan can't do anything..

 

[Smiles and Cries]

all I could find is a 2 week article

Pakistan resumes flights to and from China, screens passengers for virus

Pakistan said on Monday it was resuming flights to and from China, three days after it suspended them because of the coronavirus outbreak in China.

www.reuters.com

It seems like they are allowing flights. Keep in mind Pakistan owes China billions of dollars. Money talks just ask the WHO. Pakistan might not want to offend the CCP, but they probably don't give 2 fucks about the Mullaha's in Iran.

Yeah I knew the reason but did not think they would hold up the double standard so freely

 

[cryptoadam]

Yeah I knew the reason but did not think they would hold up the double standard so freely

Well I doubt its free. All that Yuen they have been getting comes with a cost

(I get the turn of phrase and what you meant, just joking around).

This though does give them a nice opportunity to seem like they are being serious about the situation, but to also keep China happy. See we closed our borders, now just ignore the flights coming from China, we got this under control.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Dr. Campbell vs the WHO

 

[Hotspurr]

Just a few things I was curious about.
So in the US people die of the "regular" flu at a rather high rate - it is estimate to reach nearly 100k per season.
Here are the 2017-2018 numbers: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018.htm

In the worst case, if you contract the flu in the US, you have a 0.25% chance of dying (0.08% on the low end), and it predominantly affects older folks 65+.

With this COVID-19 thing, if you take the deaths and divide them by the number of infected, you get about 3%, which is kind of a useless number and it's what is reported a lot in the news. The more informative number (if accurate) is the deaths per resolved cases, which sits at 10% (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/).

Here again, the people most affected are the over 65+, and it seems to follow the same trend as with the standard flu. Effectively, the virus is about 40-125 times worse than the standard flu and can spread rather easily even if you are asymptomatic.

I guess my initial thoughts are what happens with co-infections: https://www.everydayhealth.com/cold...o-come-down-with-two-flu-viruses-at-once.aspx
The other question is about the infection rate, which there isn't that much data on. In other words, if the standard flu is 5-20% infection, rate, what if this new thing is 20-40% infection rate, that would exacerbate everything as well.

I'd say this is fairly serious, and if you have older folks in your family maybe try to limit their travel and take care of their health to keep their immune system strong.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

welp sounds like Iran is truly fucked




not sure how I am going to feel if my town goes on lockdown


fist bumps for everyone from now on

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Looks like this chart has been updated for Italy

OTHER PLACES	Cases	Deaths	Notes	Links
Diamond Princess	691	3	36 serious, 1 recovered	Source
South Korea	602	6	7 serious, 17 recovered	Source
Japan	146*	1	7 serious, 23 recovered	Source
Singapore	89	0	5 critical, 49 recovered	Source
Hong Kong	74	2	4 critical, 2 serious, 5 recovered	Source
Italy	155	3	26 serious	Source
Thailand	35	0	2 serious, 15 recovered	Source
United States	35	0	5 recovered	Source
Iran	43	8		Source
Taiwan	28	1	2 recovered	Source
Malaysia	22	0	17 recovered	Source
Australia	22	0	11 recovered	Source
Germany	16	0	14 recovered	Source
Vietnam	16	0	14 recovered	Source
UAE	13	0	2 serious, 3 recovered	Source
France	12	1	10 recovered	Source
Macau	10	0	5 recovered	Source
United Kingdom	13	0	8 recovered	Source
Canada	9	0	3 recovered	Source
Philippines	3	1	2 recovered	Source
India	3	0	3 recovered	Source
Russia	2	0	2 recovered	Source
Spain	2	0	2 recovered	Source
Nepal	1	0	1 recovered	Source
Cambodia	1	0	1 recovered	Source
Sri Lanka	1	0	1 recovered	Source
Finland	1	0	1 recovered	Source
Sweden	1	0		Source
Belgium	1	0	1 recovered	Source
Egypt	1	0	1 recovered	Source
Israel	1	0		Source
Lebanon	1	0		Source
TOTAL	2,050	26	82 serious/critical

Notes

 

[donfonzie]

I was at a wedding just now. This guy sitting next kept caughing, and at the end was telling someone he had just returned from a trip to China/Thailand a few days back, and that Corona virus is just the flu.... Why are people so stupid? And why don't they care if they are infecting everyone else? That's just selfish.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I was at a wedding just now. This guy sitting next kept caughing, and at the end was telling someone he had just returned from a trip to China/Thailand a few days back, and that Corona virus is just the flu.... Why are people so stupid? And why don't they care if they are infecting everyone else? That's just selfish.

Well that was rude of him. Now the question is are you going to self-quarantine for 14 or 28 days?

 

[Sybrix]

 

[donfonzie]

Well that was rude of him. Now the question is are you going to self-quarantine for 14 or 28 days?

I called the main hospital here, and asked if I could be tested for the virus. I was told they only have a limited number of tests, so tests can only be done if I start getting symptoms . I'm wearing a mask for the next few days, but if God forbid I feel even a little bit sick, then Im definitely locking myself up. Conscience would kill me knowing I am the reason for so much pain and suffering.

Edit: I'm in Pakistan btw.

 

[cryptoadam]

Looks like this chart has been updated for Italy

OTHER PLACES	Cases	Deaths	Notes	Links
Diamond Princess	691	3	36 serious, 1 recovered	Source
South Korea	602	6	7 serious, 17 recovered	Source
Japan	146*	1	7 serious, 23 recovered	Source
Singapore	89	0	5 critical, 49 recovered	Source
Hong Kong	74	2	4 critical, 2 serious, 5 recovered	Source
Italy	155	3	26 serious	Source
Thailand	35	0	2 serious, 15 recovered	Source
United States	35	0	5 recovered	Source
Iran	43	8		Source
Taiwan	28	1	2 recovered	Source
Malaysia	22	0	17 recovered	Source
Australia	22	0	11 recovered	Source
Germany	16	0	14 recovered	Source
Vietnam	16	0	14 recovered	Source
UAE	13	0	2 serious, 3 recovered	Source
France	12	1	10 recovered	Source
Macau	10	0	5 recovered	Source
United Kingdom	13	0	8 recovered	Source
Canada	9	0	3 recovered	Source
Philippines	3	1	2 recovered	Source
India	3	0	3 recovered	Source
Russia	2	0	2 recovered	Source
Spain	2	0	2 recovered	Source
Nepal	1	0	1 recovered	Source
Cambodia	1	0	1 recovered	Source
Sri Lanka	1	0	1 recovered	Source
Finland	1	0	1 recovered	Source
Sweden	1	0		Source
Belgium	1	0	1 recovered	Source
Egypt	1	0	1 recovered	Source
Israel	1	0		Source
Lebanon	1	0		Source
TOTAL	2,050	26	82 serious/critical

Notes

Iran has to by lieing or the virus they have is much more deadly.

Deaths are too high for the low number of cases.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I called the main hospital here, and asked if I could be tested for the virus. I was told they only have a limited number of tests, so tests can only be done if I start getting symptoms . I'm wearing a mask for the next few days, but if God forbid I feel even a little bit sick, then Im definitely locking myself up. Conscience would kill me knowing I am the reason for so much pain and suffering.

Edit: I'm in Pakistan btw.

ah that is rough, I feel the same way I would hate to be someone who spreads a dangerous virus that could kill someone. Hope you are not sick. Pakistan still allowing flights to China and as you pointed out people have bad attitudes about this just being the flu is a bad thing.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Iran has to by lieing or the virus they have is much more deadly.

Deaths are too high for the low number of cases.

Both, Dr. Campbell thinks Iran might have been isolated long enough for a mutation of the virus to one that kills faster

 

[Breakage]

It's not looking good:
World is approaching coronavirus tipping point, experts say
78,000 cases confirmed, as Italy and Iran scramble to contain major outbreaks

World is approaching coronavirus tipping point, experts say

78,000 cases confirmed, as Italy and Iran scramble to contain major outbreaks

www.theguardian.com

 

[Kadayi]

It's just a Coff /S

 

[Smiles and Cries]

people did not like their carnival being cut short in Italy

 

[eot]

Fuuuuck
Milano has a lot of connections with all the bordering countries :/ much worse than if the outbreak had been in southern Italy.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Second person in Israel tests positive for coronavirus, as self-quarantine numbers rise again

Israel's ministry of health has announced the country's second case of coronavirus. A man who was a passenger on the Diamond Princess cruise ship, who returned to Israel last week, tested positive for the disease.

www.cnn.com

1 or 2 isolated quickly could be a good sign if they can contain it fast (the thing is at least they are testing!)
as long as it is not a run away snowball like Italy

 

[donfonzie]

ah that is rough, I feel the same way I would hate to be someone who spreads a dangerous virus that could kill someone. Hope you are not sick. Pakistan still allowing flights to China and as you pointed out people have bad attitudes about this just being the flu is a bad thing.

Thanks mate. Bad attitude and a lack of medical resources here is pretty scary. If it does spread here, would be pretty difficult to control...

 

[Son Tofu]

I have a buddy that lives in Japan that says people are really freaking out over there. He has a neighbor who won't leave his apartment.

 

[Cunth]

I have a buddy that lives in Japan that says people are really freaking out over there. He has a neighbor who won't leave his apartment.

thats normal japanese animu fan behaviour

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Italy youtube is freaking out about this I just can't find anyone in english to share though




this poor girl is just trying to get her channel more views but wait until youtube slaps the WHO link under her video meaning she is demonetized. If she thinks she is depressed now lol

 

[cryptoadam]

Second person in Israel tests positive for coronavirus, as self-quarantine numbers rise again

Israel's ministry of health has announced the country's second case of coronavirus. A man who was a passenger on the Diamond Princess cruise ship, who returned to Israel last week, tested positive for the disease.

www.cnn.com

1 or 2 isolated quickly could be a good sign if they can contain it fast (the thing is at least they are testing!)
as long as it is not a run away snowball like Italy

Lets hope it doesn't snow ball, but I am fearful for the ME as shit is getting hand over there. Another thing with the ME is even though its repressive, we have seen the people revolt against their governments lately. Arab Spring, protest in Iraq, protest in Lebanon, protest in Iran. They aren't like the Chinese that fear the CCP. If this stuff starts spreading I can see lots of riots and even worse. What if a Hamas or Hezbollah decide to use their terrorism in regards to this?

And once again the Diamond Cruise. I mean its cruel to say that taking those people off the ship wasn't smart, but there were so many infected people removed from the ship and this could be the spark that the US and Israel (and other countries) needed to spread this.

 

[Stouffers]

I have a buddy that lives in Japan that says people are really freaking out over there. He has a neighbor who won't leave his apartment.

Is this before or after the virus came to Japan?

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Lets hope it doesn't snow ball, but I am fearful for the ME as shit is getting hand over there. Another thing with the ME is even though its repressive, we have seen the people revolt against their governments lately. Arab Spring, protest in Iraq, protest in Lebanon, protest in Iran. They aren't like the Chinese that fear the CCP. If this stuff starts spreading I can see lots of riots and even worse. What if a Hamas or Hezbollah decide to use their terrorism in regards to this?

And once again the Diamond Cruise. I mean its cruel to say that taking those people off the ship wasn't smart, but there were so many infected people removed from the ship and this could be the spark that the US and Israel (and other countries) needed to spread this.

Israel should hope no one gets bright ideas on how to fuel the flames.

I'd expect many countries to have a very difficult time controlling their people not just ME countries looking at you Ukraine
Not many places can pull off what the CCP did. I have a feeling the US would have had the worst reactions to Cities being shutdown and people being told not to leave their homes and only to go to the stores every 3 days.

Is it smart to lockdown, yes. Will people behave the same way NOPE

 

[Sakura]

I have a buddy that lives in Japan that says people are really freaking out over there. He has a neighbor who won't leave his apartment.

I live in Japan and things are pretty normal.

 

[cryptoadam]

Israel should hope no one gets bright ideas on how to fuel the flames.

I'd expect many countries to have a very difficult time controlling their people not just ME countries looking at you Ukraine
Not many places can pull off what the CCP did. I have a feeling the US would have had the worst reactions to Cities being shutdown and people being told not to leave their homes and only to go to the stores every 3 days.

Is it smart to lockdown, yes. Will people behave the same way NOPE

My feelings exactly.

I can't imagine what will happen in the US with all the privately owned guns. People aren't going to stand for China style crack downs. The west isn't used to authoritarian style crack downs. I can only imagine trying to get Billy Bob to go into quarantine and he busts out his shot guns and m16.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I was wondering how Canada is doing

 

[Captain Zyrain]

Africa and South America still looking like solid escape plans.. For how long?

 

[cryptoadam]

Add another for canada. A women flying from montreal to vancouver tested positive. And guess where she came from?

Iran.

Iran is the new China.

 

[ExpandKong]

Africa and South America still looking like solid escape plans.. For how long?

Thought there were confirmed cases in South Africa last week

 

[Cunth]

i think theres countries that have got it, and countries who dont know they've got it

 

[Son Tofu]

I live in Japan and things are pretty normal.

Really? I'll text him right now. Maybe he was overstating. I was told people are buying up masks like crazy.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

don't forget countries without test kits and countries who refuse to use their test kits

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Really? I'll text him right now. Maybe he was overstating. I was told people are buying up masks like crazy.

maybe those were Chinese buying them to send back to family

 

[vpance]

Africa and South America still looking like solid escape plans.. For how long?

Greenland and Iceland are the best options. Confirmed from Plague Inc.

 

[Captain Zyrain]

Greenland and Iceland are the best options. Confirmed from Plague Inc.

Don't forget Madagascar!

And for some reason Morroco always seemed to be the last to fall for me.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I see dead people

 

[vpance]

Don't forget Madagascar!

And for some reason Morroco always seemed to be the last to fall for me.

Never have trouble in Asia or ME. But I usually start in India.

 

[Captain Zyrain]

Hopefully they can keep it in check in NK. The civvies there don't need anything else bad happening to them.



Unless it was a Nork plot all along..

 

[Smiles and Cries]

^ you believe that DPRK shit?

 

[Sakura]

Really? I'll text him right now. Maybe he was overstating. I was told people are buying up masks like crazy.

Masks have been selling out ever since it was a thing in China. Mostly Chinese people buying them and shipping them to China or reselling. One lady bought 110 packs alone at our store. Now manufacturing isn't keeping up so every where is chronically short stocked. We haven't seen any drop in customers at our store though, and most people seem business as usual.

 

[Son Tofu]

Masks have been selling out ever since it was a thing in China. Mostly Chinese people buying them and shipping them to China or reselling. One lady bought 110 packs alone at our store. Now manufacturing isn't keeping up so every where is chronically short stocked. We haven't seen any drop in customers at our store though, and most people seem business as usual.

Okay, apparently only his neighbor is freaking out and is buying a bunch of masks. My buddy clarified in his latest text (he actually wrote that in the original text - I just misread).

 

[Breakage]

Large scale lockdowns, forced quarantines, and overwhelmed medical services won't go down well in diverse western countries. China was able to pull it off because of its homogeneous population and the common understanding that the government is difficult to challenge.
But switch to Western Europe, and I can see things getting wild if there in a major outbreak across several countries. People aren't just gonna go “Ok, we will all stay indoors and remain calm”. The more diverse the population, the more harder it will be to get people to comply with containment procedures.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

7,700 is a massive number to quarantine hope they are not on a cruise ship

 

[bitbydeath]

Still no China numbers, probably still trying to work that spin in.

South Korea looks to be showing 1 death per 100 infected. That’s a hell of a lot more than 3% if that continues.