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Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check
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GamingKaiju
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Hulk_Smash
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Especially China. I wouldn’t be surprised if their deaths topped a million. I remember reading a report in February of 2020 that it was so bad in Wuhan that they were running the crematoriums 24 hours a day.
Covid-19: Mexico revises coronavirus death toll up by 60%
The revised figures indicate Mexico has the second highest number of Covid-related deaths in the world.www.bbc.co.uk
One of the biggest stories as the world eventually exits from this pandemic will be the level of coverups like this that will eventually rear its head.
The “80k” deaths was pure propaganda from the very beginning.
arkhamguy123
Banned
Man I hate being right. Just today, https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/29/cdc...id-cases-rise-again-right-now-im-scared-.html
I mean look I know its not good cases are rising, and fuck every college kid who went to Florida and Mexico to party, but cmon man who needs these ultra dramatic headlines like this? I just don't know what good this does. And also, this CDC lady has been doing this and saying this since early February.
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Insane Metal
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School vans will be used to transport the dead in São Paulo. The morgues can't keep up with the amount of people dying.
Seriously. I can't.
Seriously. I can't.
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THE:MILKMAN
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School vans will be used to transport the dead in São Paulo. The morgues can't keep up with the amount of people dying.
Seriously. I can't.
Wow...Sorry to hear it has got that bad. Having to resort to use school buses is really bleak
I'm guessing the already very high >300k deaths in Brazil is still very much underreported?Keep safe!
Insane Metal
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Some recent data suggest that the actual number is over 400K deaths, but even with 300 that's a lot. And daily numbers in the last few weeks have gone from 1,200 to 3,600. The recent wave is really really bad. And the population won't help. There are places with lots of people going to beaches, travelling around just for fun etc. It's a terrible sight honestly. So much shit going on and some people acting like there's nothing happening.Wow...Sorry to hear it has got that bad. Having to resort to use school buses is really bleak
Keep safe!
THE:MILKMAN
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Yeah that the young and/or healthy might not end up in hospital or dead but will pass it on to older and/or immune compromised people who will, seems to be lost on them.
Luckily my older parents and disabled brother have had their first dose of vaccine and are due their second dose next month. They have been surprisingly cautious even though restrictions here (UK) started to lift today. They want to wait and see how things go for a couple of weeks. Far more sensible!
THE:MILKMAN
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I know it's not the fear mongering garbage some of you ingrates love so much, but this is HUGE
It is great news and backs up the data from Scotland a few weeks ago...but (always a but!) the healthy under 50's worldwide are largely unvaccinated and it is this very large group of people that are now starting to relax/work more/mix more (certainly in the US/Europe) that may lead to another surge in cases which in turn risks mutations that escape current vaccines and outpace vaccine (booster) development.
Will be interesting what effect the Easter weekend and then retail opening up in two weeks has on cases here in the UK. Fingers crossed.
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Doubt it's due to the vaccines. People didn't even start getting their second doses in the UK until mid-February, but if you look at that chart, you had already reduced your daily cases by more than 75% compared to the peak at that point.
Covid vaccine: How many people are vaccinated in the UK?
A look at progress made in vaccinating the country, as more than 52 million people have received at least one dose and 38 million have had a booster or third dose.
www.bbc.com
Think we'll ever find out how bad it was in China? I know I know, only a maniac would think that.Covid-19: Mexico revises coronavirus death toll up by 60%
The revised figures indicate Mexico has the second highest number of Covid-related deaths in the world.www.bbc.co.uk
One of the biggest stories as the world eventually exits from this pandemic will be the level of coverups like this that will eventually rear its head.
Umm, that's not what China is reporting. Their claim is 90k cases total with 4600 deaths and that they basically eradicated it with infection controls. They're basically the only country claiming this as far as I can see. Only a shill or a slashdot poster would believe numbers like that.
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DragoonKain
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Lost a family member to COVID last week. They had a spring BBQ get together a week or two ago, not sure if that's where they got it. They were in their 60's.
Hulk_Smash
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Holy shit. The lying is way worse than I thought.
Here is an MSN article from March of last year that took the photographic evidence it had at the time and did some simple math to show that in a 12 day period, Wuhan had cremated 26k dead bodies above the normal amount of cremated bodies for the whole quarter in just a 12 day period.
Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
It almost certainly is due to the vaccine. Immunity starts about 2 weeks after the first dose, and close to 10 million people in the UK had been vaccinated by the end of January. Up to 30 million now. Fantastic job by their public health organizations.Doubt it's due to the vaccines. People didn't even start getting their second doses in the UK until mid-February, but if you look at that chart, you had already reduced your daily cases by more than 75% compared to the peak at that point.
Covid vaccine: How many people are vaccinated in the UK?
A look at progress made in vaccinating the country, as more than 52 million people have received at least one dose and 38 million have had a booster or third dose.
The second dose is just a booster meant to prolong immunity.
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I would bet it's more due to the 3rd strict national lockdown having started on January 6th than the fact that 1 dose had been administered to around 15% of the population, but I'll leave it at that.
My guess is that China probably thought it was going to be like any other disease and be gone in at most 6 months so there could be some plausibility to their numbers. However what we saw with pretty much every other country makes it completely obvious their numbers are just horses**t.
Anyone gone for a black market vaccine? 
In all honesty, I wonder how widespread the trade in black market vaccines really is. Perhaps the AstraZeneca vaccine is most vulnerable to black market trade given its low storage and transportation cost and requirements.
www.theage.com.au
In all honesty, I wonder how widespread the trade in black market vaccines really is. Perhaps the AstraZeneca vaccine is most vulnerable to black market trade given its low storage and transportation cost and requirements.
Black market vaccine fight as COVID rollout tempts criminals
A national inquiry is examining the risks criminal enterprises pose to Australia’s vaccine rollout amid fears counterfeit COVID doses are headed to local shores.
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llien
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It is about state of Berlin:
www.euronews.com
The main reason UK is ahead of France is AZs' shady delivery practices.
Which might be linked to what Boris was doing, but it's hardly something to be proud of, a rather pathetic behavior.
Germany suspends use of AstraZeneca COVID vaccine for under-60s
Germany has paused the use of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine for people under the age of 60 following concerns about rare blood clots.
www.euronews.com
The main reason UK is ahead of France is AZs' shady delivery practices.
Which might be linked to what Boris was doing, but it's hardly something to be proud of, a rather pathetic behavior.
llien
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Who cares about your "production" please?
UK bought 100 million from AZ, EU bought 400 million.
Deliveries are more like 1 to 1, not 1 to 4 as it should.
UK exports nothing, yet gets 11+ million jabs from EU (out of about 43 million jabs exported from EU, that's about half of vaccines produced in EU in the respective period).
CharmingCharlie
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Then please shut up moaning about us not exporting shit if you don't care about our production. As for the fairness bullshit we are paying a fuck ton more for these things than the EU are becasue the UK didn't feel it was right to nickle and dime on vaccines when our citizens were dying, unlike the EU. But now it is blowing up in their faces because they didn't value the lives of fellow EU citizens they are screaming "it isn't fair boo hoo". Why is it a surprise that AZ would prioritise the customers that are paying the most ?
llien
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As I just said, I don't care about your production, I do care about jabs leaving EU heading into UK.
I do care that EU exports 50% of its jab production.
While UK exports 0%, and on top of it is times ahead in number of jabs/person obtained.
ALL WHILE GETTING IMPORTS FROM EU.
This is OUTRAGOUS levels of BULLSHIT.
What the FUCKING FUCK is wrong with you?!?!?!
You pay more FOR WHAT?
You bought shit.
EU bought shit (a mistake, they should have bought more from German Biontech(Pfizer)).
UK got its order fulfiled, EU had not.
That is all that happened (in Q1).
Q2 onwards things will improve (not because of the shady piece like AZ, but due to other suppliers).
But this shameless idiotic nonsense about some missteps is fucking unbearable.
You got more of the shit, because you play selfish AND DIRTY.
CharmingCharlie
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It isn't rocket science llien we pay MORE per dose than the EU does. The EU was more concerned with penny pincing than with peoples lives. This is not just ME saying this it is your own damn European Govts saying this, The UK govt went to these vaccine manufacturers and gave them a blank cheque. The EU went to the vaccine manufacturers and haggled for a cheaper price,
You clearly are not objective in all this, as far as you are concerned the EU is a vestral fucking virgin. The UK dirty scum and AZ are peddlers of shit apparently. There is little point in trying to reason with some one as unhinged as you.
llien
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None of such details are public, you know jack shit.
Of all the ways to justify shady business practices of AZ, this is the most stinky one.
EU invested billions into vaccines for other countries. Germany alone bid more than 1.5 billion Euro.
You don't get what they mean by saying that.
It is about buying from AZ instead of Pfizer-Biontech.
mRNA vaccines are inherently more expensive.
Ew...
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Liljagare
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The disease appears to behave like Creutz-Jakob in a mutation now. Which is wierd, guess it leaves prions after infection.
New mutation is hitting younger people with side effects like, spasms, memory loss, loss of vision, drooling and that nice ol' feeling of bugs crawling on your skin. Has started in Canada, but very few international sources atm.
I still say this shit was manufactured. Our vaccines will more than likely fail at the end of the year, and if that happens, you know this stuff was man made..
(source in swedish, no english sauce yet)
New mutation is hitting younger people with side effects like, spasms, memory loss, loss of vision, drooling and that nice ol' feeling of bugs crawling on your skin. Has started in Canada, but very few international sources atm.
I still say this shit was manufactured. Our vaccines will more than likely fail at the end of the year, and if that happens, you know this stuff was man made..
(source in swedish, no english sauce yet)
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Austria too
Austria in talks to buy a million doses of Russia's Sputnik V vaccine
Austria is in talks with Russia to buy a million doses of its Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine, which has yet to be approved by the European Medicines Agency, Chancellor Sebastian Kurz's office said on Tuesday.
www.reuters.com
llien
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Updates from Germany on brain thrombosis cases.
2.6m doses administered (I don't know, how many were second doses).
31 cases of rare brain thrombosis. (normally happens 1-2 times a year per 1 million people)
9 dead. (Germany alone, was only 2 dead when AZ jabs were suspended for the first time)
Seems to mostly harm women under 50.
The question here is, how come UK has administered more than 20 million of AZ jabs, but hasn't detected the effect. (no, it's not happening only in Germany, out of 15 brain thrombosis deaths detected when AZ vaccination was first suspended, only 2 cases were German)
2.6m doses administered (I don't know, how many were second doses).
31 cases of rare brain thrombosis. (normally happens 1-2 times a year per 1 million people)
9 dead. (Germany alone, was only 2 dead when AZ jabs were suspended for the first time)
Seems to mostly harm women under 50.
The question here is, how come UK has administered more than 20 million of AZ jabs, but hasn't detected the effect. (no, it's not happening only in Germany, out of 15 brain thrombosis deaths detected when AZ vaccination was first suspended, only 2 cases were German)
llien
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Slovakia's PM steps down over Sputnik-V scandal (was in secret talks with Russia to procure 2 million doses):
www.euronews.com
Six other cabinet members have resigned over the scandal.
Slovakia’s prime minister steps down amid Sputnik V vaccine scandal
Prime Minister Igor Matovic has been embroiled in a political scandal triggered by a secret deal to buy Russia's Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine.
www.euronews.com
Six other cabinet members have resigned over the scandal.
Jezbollah
Member
It really is a collossal string of own-goals by the main leaders within the EU.
llien
Member
That's one hell of a weird reaction.
Maybe it's time to leave your twitter echo-chamber.
CrankyJay™
Member
What we should be seeing soon is the average age of those hospitalized going down, as we are in my county.
12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
Brazil: Political crisis and Covid surge rock Bolsonaro
President Bolsonaro is left reeling after record deaths and the resignation of military chiefs.
www.bbc.com
ManaByte
Gold Member
Pfizer says Covid vaccine 100 percent effective in children ages 12 to 15
The company plans to request emergency use authorization for 12- to 15-year-olds in the coming weeks.
www.nbcnews.com
Anti-vaxxers:
lyan
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From this study (https://n.neurology.org/content/95/16/e2200) the numbers are more like 20 per million and was noted to be rising in the US.
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