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[sdornan]

Can someone whose better at Photoshop than me photoshop Miranda into a Gardasil ad saying "One less!"?

 

[Cep]

Please say that Horizon was one of the hardest parts on Insanity. Jesus.

Easily.

What class were you?

 

[MegaKungFuRadio]

concerning the last mission

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zaeed can also be the leader of the 'fire team'.

edit: or not!

Seeeee that's what I thought! I thought he had turned a leaf under my Paragon guidance. He's also old as fuck. Experience, man! Even Miranda commented on that.

Tip for Insanity:
If you have trouble with Husks, use

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Grunt

for those missions. He'll randomly kill one of them outright when they get close enough.

 

[Xevren]

I was a soldier originally, but just didn't like it on insanity much. My infiltrator is doing fine though, just had some issues towards the end of Horizon.

 

[natkingcoleslaw]

Just finished the game playing as "the good shepard"

I realize its gonna be two painful years before part 3 comes out.

But let me ask you guys this: is anyone worried about ME3 when it comes out?

I mean the gameplay in ME2 is so awesome it would most definitely make a good multiplayer game if you remove the pause mechanic. But also multiplayer development always ruins the single player campaign. just look at call of duty.

opinions?

Note: this i guess should have been in a different thread, or maybe it already is. but i dont have he preveliges so...

 

[Cep]

I was a soldier originally, but just didn't like it on insanity much. My infiltrator is doing fine though, just had some issues towards the end of Horizon.

The end can be pretty brutal, I agree.

Took my sentinel a lot of smooth playing to run the scenario.

Of course I never used any medigel because i did not want to waste them, so that may have had something to do with it.

 

[Arde5643]

Just finished the game playing as "the good shepard"

I realize its gonna be two painful years before part 3 comes out.

But let me ask you guys this: is anyone worried about ME3 when it comes out?

I mean the gameplay in ME2 is so awesome it would most definitely make a good multiplayer game if you remove the pause mechanic. But also multiplayer development always ruins the single player campaign. just look at call of duty.

opinions?

Note: this i guess should have been in a different thread, or maybe it already is. but i dont have he preveliges so...

If Bioware is smart about it, they won't make ME3 a multiplayer game - or at least if they do, make it done by separate teams so that the same team who worked on ME1 and ME2 can continue their work on ME3 without feeling the pressure from a multiplayer game.

So far it seems that EA has given pretty good freedom for Bioware in their games, so I have high hopes that ME3 will have the same combat/cinematic/awesome team members as ME2 but a bit more in upgrades/lvl ups and exploration.

 

[hateradio]

I've got a question about Zaeed:

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I did his loyalty quest, but he's not loyal. The guy he was after runs out, is this how it plays out?

 

[Cep]

I've got a question about Zaeed:

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I did his loyalty quest, but he's not loyal. The guy he was after runs out, is this how it plays out?

No, you are supposed to Paragon or Renegade your way through the convo, otherwise he will not be loyal

 

[Aedile]

Is there any way I can leave Grunt in the cryo vat for the entirety of the game?

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You can leave him in there and still get a 'perfect' ending as long as you satisfy the other criteria.

 

[MegaKungFuRadio]

The end can be pretty brutal, I agree.

Took my sentinel a lot of smooth playing to run the scenario.

Of course I never used any medigel because i did not want to waste them, so that may have had something to do with it.

I only cared about getting past the Husk swarm and two Scions, so I used the only two gel I had there I also waited until both squadmates died to use the second one. Everything after that was a breeze. One of my squad died during the Praetorian, but I got a free revive for some reason. I guess when it's putting up its barrier and is invincible, it counted as non combat. Spared me one of the two medi-gel I got after the Scions.

 

[Jamesfrom818]

Paragon Shepard is such an ass towards Mordin, especially on his loyalty mission.

 

[natkingcoleslaw]

throw field is awesome here. destroys groups in a single shot. and it recharges in a second

 

[Cep]

I only cared about getting past the Husk swarm and two Scions, so I used the only two gel I had there I also waited until both squadmates died to use the second one. Everything after that was a breeze. One of my squad died during the Praetorian, but I got a free revive for some reason. I guess when it's putting up its barrier and is invincible, it counted as non combat. Spared me one of the two medi-gel I got after the Scions.

Yeah that is the hardest part.

Now imagine playing that on insane your first run-through, and realizing you brought the wrong party.

Only time I was ever tempted to put the difficulty down. Kinda wish I did, now I have done just about everything worth doing.

 

[natkingcoleslaw]

Paragon Shepard is such an ass towards Mordin, especially on his loyalty mission.

yeah i chose the neutral options a number of times

 

[hateradio]

No, you are supposed to Paragon or Renegade your way through the convo, otherwise he will not be loyal

What are the repercussions of not having him loyal/how do I get him back. He was the first one I did ... should have waited then.

 

[Patryn]

Just finished the game playing as "the good shepard"

I realize its gonna be two painful years before part 3 comes out.

But let me ask you guys this: is anyone worried about ME3 when it comes out?

I mean the gameplay in ME2 is so awesome it would most definitely make a good multiplayer game if you remove the pause mechanic. But also multiplayer development always ruins the single player campaign. just look at call of duty.

opinions?

Note: this i guess should have been in a different thread, or maybe it already is. but i dont have he preveliges so...

Multiplayer would ruin Mass Effect. Not every game needs it.

What are the repercussions of not having him loyal/how do I get him back. He was the first one I did ... should have waited then.

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Nonloyal crew members may lead to permanent squad member deaths during the suicide mission. Theirs and/or others.

To regain loyalty you need to get 100% either way (Paragon or Renegade) and talk to them.

EDIT: Oh, Zaeed? Yeah, you're fucked, because he doesn't do the normal dialogue stuff, I don't think. Anyone else you'd be able to regain trust.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

Apologies for asking a question that I'm sure has been repeated numerous times in this thread, but can somebody give me a vague description of the point of no return in this game? When you recruit all party members or...?

I'm like 18 hours in now but avoiding my last few just to be safe. :lol

 

[hateradio]

To regain loyalty you need to get 100% either way (Paragon or Renegade) and talk to them.

EDIT: Oh, Zaeed? Yeah, you're fucked, because he doesn't do the normal dialogue stuff, I don't think. Anyone else you'd be able to regain trust.

Damn it, when DLC fails :/ Would uninstalling it remove him from my party?

 

[Arjen]

Found something that didn't ad up in the choices i made in ME1.

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I met the Asari i saved from the Torian, had to do a quest for her, she said something in the lines of: "You are brave, you saved the colonist even when they were shooting you"
Yeah.., i didn't though, i shot them all, i just let you live cause you were hot :lol
I guess because you went the paragon route with her, they assumed you let all the colonist live.

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Found something that didn't ad up in the choices i made in ME1.

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I met the Asari i saved from the Torian, had to do a quest for her, she said something in the lines of: "You are brave, you saved the colonist even when they were shooting you"
Yeah.., i didn't though, i shot them all, i just let you live cause you were hot :lol
I guess because you went the paragon route with her, they assumed you let all the colonist live.

:lol That's an amusing oversight.

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I guess they probably did just figure that anyone who saved her also saved the colonists.

 

[Naeblish]

Can you only get one new power with advanced training? I did 3 loyalty missions, i choose warp ammo and slam, but only slam shows up in my squad menu. How exactly does that work?

Also, does anyone have some tips where to get a lot of element zero. Found a planet with 'eezo' that had a lot, but besides that it's very rare to find.

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Can you only get one new power with advanced training? I did 3 loyalty missions, i choose warp ammo and slam, but only slam shows up in my squad menu. How exactly does that work?

Yeah, only one new power. The text for it says that anytime you choose it again it replaces the previous one chosen.

So it's not possible to make some Elite Shepard with everyone's loyalty powers.

 

[Naeblish]

Yeah, only one new power. The text for it says that anytime you choose it again it replaces the previous one chosen.

So it's not possible to make some Elite Shepard with everyone's loyalty powers.

Ok thnx, must have totally read over that part.

 

[derFeef]

I am having problems with my Vanguard here. I find the charge ability not very usefull because either you charge into a group of enemys, or you can not use it at all because the enemys are on another level.

It is fun to use to finish off the last enemy on the field, but it is really not good

 

[Revelations]

I am having problems with my Vanguard here. I find the charge ability not very usefull because either you charge into a group of enemys, or you can not use it at all because the enemys are on another level.

It is fun to use to finish off the last enemy on the field, but it is really not good

Stick with Sentinel or Infiltrator outside of Soldier or Adept.

 

[hamchan]

I am having problems with my Vanguard here. I find the charge ability not very usefull because either you charge into a group of enemys, or you can not use it at all because the enemys are on another level.

It is fun to use to finish off the last enemy on the field, but it is really not good

Unfortunately vanguard is the worst class in the game.

 

[SlickVic]

Do you have to purchase every upgrade your crew recommends for the perfect ending? I got the obvious ones involving the Normandy but not so keen on farming more minerals if I don't have to.

 

[Fox the Sly]

I'm too lazy to check the 100+ pages (my account is set to 100 posts per page) to see if this was posted, but at the risk of being redundant, I'll post it anyway. Taken from GameFAQs. I got all 3 head pieces.

1. Go to www.drpepper.com/promotions
2. Copy in a code (CBEEAAA41NWH)
3. Create account when prompted.
4. Now there should be a page telling you that you've unlocked an EA item, click the little button underneath the paragraph of text. I forget what the button says, something like EA prize.
5. Now you should be redirected to an EA login screen.
6. Log in with details of EA account. I am assuming at this point you have already made an EA account and have already linked Mass Effect 2 to that account.
7. Now click the item you want and click the finalise button.
8. Go back to www.drpepper.com/promotions and sign out <<< important.
9. Repeat above making sure you create a new account each time.

 

[Quagm1r3]

How are you guys getting full/really high paragon/renegade scores? On my first playthrough I went all renegade and didn't even get halfway.

 

[viewtifulsub]

I am having problems with my Vanguard here. I find the charge ability not very usefull because either you charge into a group of enemys, or you can not use it at all because the enemys are on another level.

It is fun to use to finish off the last enemy on the field, but it is really not good

Charge is useless. Pull is your primary biotic; then shockwave for the horde of husk packs.

 

[SlickVic]

How are you guys getting full/really high paragon/renegade scores? On my first playthrough I went all renegade and didn't even get halfway.

That's strange. I've been playing Paragon mostly (only got 1 bar full of Renegade) and I'm about 80% max. Did you import a ME1 save? I think you get a boost starting ME2 depending what allegiance you were in the first game.

 

[MegaKungFuRadio]

How are you guys getting full/really high paragon/renegade scores? On my first playthrough I went all renegade and didn't even get halfway.

Maxing the passive class talent gives you up to 100% bonus.

 

[Castor Krieg]

Please say that Horizon was one of the hardest parts on Insanity. Jesus.

When in doubt - nuke. And no, it wasn't the hardest -

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Reaper Core Room says hi

. Again, when in doubt - nuke.

 

[Mohonky]

That's strange. I've been playing Paragon mostly (only got 1 bar full of Renegade) and I'm about 80% max. Did you import a ME1 save? I think you get a boost starting ME2 depending what allegiance you were in the first game.

Hmmm I have maybe one section of Renegade, hoping to get my Paragon on a higher level for convo with Miranda after the Jack debacle. Possible to get it high enough? Still got a few loyalty quests to go so I figure I can get at least 3 full Paragon but I'm concerned it won't be enough.

 

[Coxswain]

How are you guys getting full/really high paragon/renegade scores? On my first playthrough I went all renegade and didn't even get halfway.

It helps if you've got an ME1 save to import that gives you 190 in both Paragon and Renegade. Once you skim those points off, the game is actually pretty stingy with the points, at least compared to the first game.

 

[MegaKungFuRadio]

When in doubt - nuke. And no, it wasn't the hardest -

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Reaper Core Room says hi

. Again, when in doubt - nuke.

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Reaper Core Room

was stupid easy for me. Just run around like an idiot, bring Grunt, and Collector laser it. No deaths, only two "phases".

 

[Coxswain]

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Reaper Core Room

was stupid easy for me. Just run around like an idiot, bring Grunt, and Collector laser it. No deaths, only two "phases".

That place is really, really simple once you realize that

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Husks can't deal with you going up and down both sets of stairs nearest the core. If they get close to you, just run up over the stairs and down the other side, and they'll turn around and run the long way around to get to you (and when they get close, repeat).

It's a bit of an AI exploit I guess, but

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on Insanity, Husks are the game's way of exploiting game mechanics anyway.

 

[Castor Krieg]

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Reaper Core Room

was stupid easy for me. Just run around like an idiot, bring Grunt, and Collector laser it. No deaths, only two "phases".

Good to know, playing with Grunt this time so it's cool. Also, I was thinking if I can one-shot it using nuke?

 

[Nose Master]

I was a dick in the first game, and tried to be a dick in this one. Still ended up with 60% Renegade and 50% Paragon. Such random shit gives you so much Paragon. I got +36 Paragon for a random dialogue choice mid conversation with someone. On the flip side, you get about +5 Renegade for choking someone out.

 

[MegaKungFuRadio]

Good to know, playing with Grunt this time so it's cool. Also, I was thinking if I can one-shot it using nuke?

I was going to try, but I didn't get a chance to change the loadout. Grunt isn't great, but he is useful for certain situations, this being one of them. I usually run with Mordin/Miranda for powers, but even area powers aren't going to save you on Insanity.

 

[suzu]

Finished the game as a female (100%) paragon sentinel. Didn't import any ME1 file.

A tip for some certain people's loyalty:
- Make sure you have 100% paragon or renegade before finishing both

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Miranda/Jack and Tali/Legion loyalty missions. You will need it to keep their loyalty.

- Zaeed's loyalty mission:

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you can paragon his loyalty. You don't need a ton. I only had about 1 and a half bar filled. I chose the neutral option when he was under the rubble... then got the blue paragon option.

Finished all of this before IFF

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finished installing

:
- All Normandy upgrades
- All Character specific upgrades
- All Loyalty quests completed

Tips for the endgame mission:

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- Legion or Tali for the vents.
- Garrus. Miranda. or Jacob as team leader.
- Samara or Jack as biotic shield.
- Mordin as the escort (I think anybody works here).
- Garrus, Miranda, or Jacob as second team leader.
- Final boss, use whoever you like. I used Garrus and Thane.

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All Squad members + all Normandy crew survived.

Great game! Will probably start up a male renegade Shepard later.

 

[MegaKungFuRadio]

....so I was having trouble with a certain infinite respawn point on Insanity:

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the room before you find Tali's father. I wanted to see what is was like if I brought Legion, but I hate the powers both Legion and Tali have plus I specced them both terribly. Both full attack drone when I probably should have gone full AI hack for both.

I can't advance at all, pinned at the front of the room. On the fifth reload or so, I say fuck it, run down, cloak up when I'm about to die and run through the door to trigger the scene. Zero fighting. EDI should really say something when you're facing infinite respawns.

 

[Gestahl]

Man, I just went through about half of ME1 again because I wasn't expecting the Shadow Broker to be

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such an asshole that he'd try to sell my corpse off to the Collectors of all things

so I wanted to change the decision regarding him, and also have a romanceless Shepard save for ME2 and 3, and the game just does not hold up that well after playing 2, at least when comparing normal difficulties. Maxed out Immunity is just ludicrously unbalanced, you can actually re-use it before it wears off, effectively making you invincible. So much filler and dull content in between all the interesting parts, too. Why yes I would love to go to 5 copied and pasted planets just to get a couple of new lines with Tali.

 

[firehawk12]

....so I was having trouble with a certain infinite respawn point on Insanity:

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the room before you find Tali's father. I wanted to see what is was like if I brought Legion, but I hate the powers both Legion and Tali have plus I specced them both terribly. Both full attack drone when I probably should have gone full AI hack for both.

I can't advance at all, pinned at the front of the room. On the fifth reload or so, I say fuck it, run down, cloak up when I'm about to die and run through the door to trigger the scene. Zero fighting. EDI should really say something when you're facing infinite respawns.

Blame the game for taking on Shitty Game Design from the 1990s (tm).
A lot of the game is basically running to the next door or alternatively, triggering the boss fight. It makes insanity that much harder for no good reason.

Oh yeah, for people who care and have iPhones, that first issue of the Mass Effect 2 prequel comic is on the iTunes store for free for today only. It appears that the arc of the series is based on Liara's immediate actions before the game begins... and probably lets them do a ME comic without ever referencing an official Shepard.

 

[MegaKungFuRadio]

Blame the game for taking on Shitty Game Design from the 1990s (tm).
A lot of the game is basically running to the next door or alternatively, triggering the boss fight. It makes insanity that much harder for no good reason.

Oh yeah, for people who care and have iPhones, that first issue of the Mass Effect 2 prequel comic is on the iTunes store for free for today only. It appears that the arc of the series is based on Liara's immediate actions before the game begins... and probably lets them do a ME comic without ever referencing an official Shepard.

It was the first time I had to do that. Everything else I've done "fairly". If I hadn't chosen to bring

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Legion

along for dialogue reasons, I probably would have been fine. But those two in a squad together just can't kill fast enough to get past those sticky situations, especially in that room. Fortunately the boss of that area was a piece of cake.

 

[Coxswain]

- Zaeed's loyalty mission:

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you can paragon his loyalty. You don't need a ton. I only had about 1 and a half bar filled. I chose the neutral option when he was under the rubble... then got the blue paragon option.

When did you do that mission?

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My Paragon was about up to here (including the 10% bonus from the Death Mask helmet), and It wouldn't let me select the Paragon option.

I wonder if that stuff scales to your level.

 

[MegaKungFuRadio]

When did you do that mission?

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My Paragon was about up to here (including the 10% bonus from the Death Mask helmet), and It wouldn't let me select the Paragon option.

I wonder if that stuff scales to your level.

I was able to Paragon my way through it after two or three recruitment missions and a handful of sides. I don't remember exactly, but it was definitely before Horizon and before I had access to any loyalty missions. That said, I always max out passive bonuses first in RPGs, which in this game gave me a 70% negotiation boost from the very beginning of the game (the 100% never seems worth it).

 

[suzu]

When did you do that mission?

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My Paragon was about up to here (including the 10% bonus from the Death Mask helmet), and It wouldn't let me select the Paragon option.

I wonder if that stuff scales to your level.

I finished it right before or after Horizon. I did his loyalty mission first before the others because theirs wasn't unlocked yet.

 

[derFeef]

I might switch to Infiltrator before I am too far into the game. Is the special ability any good?