Mass Effect Andromeda Graphical Downgrade
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FunkyPajamas
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"Mansari" what the hell people.
KojiKnight
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spazchicken
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That racoon/Zorro color on her face is ridiculous looking too. It's going to be a big challenge for me to look at Peebe while playing this game.
Horse Armour
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nelsonroyale
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The gameplay footage in the reveal trailer does look better than what I have seen from the final game, but they are short snippets with effects turned up to the max. I didn't expect the game to look like that from the outset. Overall I think the game looks fine. Yes, character models are not up there with other games, but the overall level of presentation is definitely better than Dragon Age.
BigTnaples
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For Real.
I superimposed the old eyes on the new face. Nothing wrong with the model, it's just the new eyes are really off.
Old Eyes + New Face
This. I would kill for this. Hopefully they can patch it. The overly white dry eyes really kill the faces. Made Ryder in the launch trailer look bad, especially when he walks in and looks around left and right.
FlutterPuffs
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Is it too much to ask for female ryder's face to not look like it was modelled in putty.
At least the custom female character in that IGN video looks better. Also theres definitely a graphical downgrade in model shaders, especially the eyes.
At least the custom female character in that IGN video looks better. Also theres definitely a graphical downgrade in model shaders, especially the eyes.
Alter_Fridge
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Polygonal_Sprite
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The gulf between graphics and animations has never been so apparent. It was always going to happen once we reached a certain level of realistic visuals.
FlutterPuffs
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Probably the biggest reason.
I wasnt at all pertubed by the character animations in Mass Effect 2 and 3.
In Andromeda though... it just looks wrong.
BossDarkseid
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Huh, always thought those initial shots etc were pre rendered/target render.
It seems that the game has received a noticeable graphical downgrade ever since the first reveal, most notably the eye shaders were drastically reduced among with other post process effects. Considering even the pc 4k version from their videos don't come close to the reveal trailer quality I'm not holding my breath the ps4 pro 1080p mode would introduce these effects back, although i wish they could patch it in the future.
Reveal
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Erm... isn't that peebe screenshot from the Cinematic Reveal trailer? Those usually use in-game assets together with a bunch of extras but are pre-rendered, hence the title "Cinematic".
From what I've seen Mass Effect Andromeda have not been "downgraded" in the scale people are calling it in this thread if you compare the Gameplay Trailers to actual gameplay footage. That cinematics are pre-rendered and might look different is a given, just look at all the Blizzard cinematics, WOW sure doesn't look like that, also looking at other games, a Cinematic trailer is just that, a cinematic whether they use some in-game assets or not.
TLDR: you can't compare a pre-rendered cinematic with in-game footage and call it "downgraded"
TVexperto
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Wait what..? Its literally the same scene so if they advertise something as ingame and it turns out to be false, then thats false advertisment for me and that doesnt sound legal to me
FlutterPuffs
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ChaosSmurf
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It is currently roughly the second best looking game in the entire world (Horizon at 1), so idk if I'd be too worried.
PuppetMaster
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As far as the faces, not sure if this tech shaming or ugly face shaming
nelsonroyale
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You think so? Uncharted 4 looks more impressive to me. I also think FFXV looks more impressive in some aspects, particularly the lighting. It is up there though.
ChaosSmurf
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Fair points. Fantastical nature of both versus UC4 being a bit more mundane probably helps hide it. But yes, either way, pretty nice.
CarbonFire
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I think this is going to be the new Shepard "sexy face" moment, courtesy of the Easy Allies Stream, running on a PS4. I imagine we'll get a lot of screen captures of custom Ryders making this face...
When Ryder first sees
Some (hell, a lot) of the art in this game is amazing, it almost feels like Bioware is making their faces bad on purpose now. I just don't understand it.
When Ryder first sees
Her Ship
Some (hell, a lot) of the art in this game is amazing, it almost feels like Bioware is making their faces bad on purpose now. I just don't understand it.
ArchedThunder
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They eyes are so gad damn dead in this game.
Something is just lost in translation with Bioware to me. I have always thought Miranda just look really off from Yvonne Strahovski as well.Since people are talking about differences made a quickGIF comparison. Eye makeup and eyebrows changed, along with removing fisheye distortion to a degree.
But I conceded I must be in the minority​opinion.
I don't understand how the characters can look pretty damn decent to great in Mass Effect 2 and 3. Now we have whatever this is in Andromeda. It's like they forgot how to do faces and facial animation. I hope the gameplay is great cause the cutscenes are going to bug the hell out of me.
LiquidSolid
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Um, to review better than Mass Effect 2 it'd have to be the second best reviewed game of this entire generation. I feel pretty safe saying that's not going to happen.
Anywho, yeah the faces are unbelievably ugly in this game. I don't understand how they went from Dragon Age: Inquisition, which had pretty good faces, to this.
fabricated backlash
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No, I didn't even notice it was supposed to be her until someone pointed it out, and I watched Chuck when playing through ME2.
I don't know what it is, but the faces just never seem to be right.
FunkyDealer
Banned
I just need a mod to fix the eyes, and I'm all good.
There it is. The new "T-pose"
Triggerhappytel
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Basically this is how I'm looking at it too.
However, those faces. Man, the Asari looks both goofy and somewhat creepy, and FemRy just looks ridiculous and as though she has an issue with botox or a muscle disease in her cheeks.
CalamityPixel
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Is that model dabbing?
StarlordDial
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The T-Pose Dab lol
ManUnkindH
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GasProblem
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Is the Easy Allies footage on a standard PS4?
Coreda
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If it's the case that it was an attempt at recreating the motion capture model in-game then they obviously missed the mark. Seems to me there were deliberate changes though.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
This is like so much ROTTR to TR 2013 level of downgrade. The reveal version of fem Ryder is like miles better and much more believable and realistic than the final one which looks awful in comparison btw. "Well done" BioWare.Reveal
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i see no contradiction here the trailer can be 100% in engine. only for it to be later changed.
pretty much
Stilton Disco
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I'm hoping this at least has the usual Bioware character writing to make up for it, but gods damn does so much of the art and animation seem to have actually gotten worse since even the first game.
I mean why in the hell is everyone so fuck ugly? Sure, the generic NPC's always looked pretty rough, but even the main characters and squadmates look like they've been thrashed with the ugly stick. It's like whoever was responsible for DA:I's Sara was the sole artists designing these.
I know between ME2 and this game most of the important staff involved in the earlier games have left the studio, but who the hell have they been hiring as their replacements? This is well below industry standard, but they're not hurting for cash or expertise on handling the engine since they're part of EA, so how does it look this painfully below average visually in so many ways?
I mean why in the hell is everyone so fuck ugly? Sure, the generic NPC's always looked pretty rough, but even the main characters and squadmates look like they've been thrashed with the ugly stick. It's like whoever was responsible for DA:I's Sara was the sole artists designing these.
I know between ME2 and this game most of the important staff involved in the earlier games have left the studio, but who the hell have they been hiring as their replacements? This is well below industry standard, but they're not hurting for cash or expertise on handling the engine since they're part of EA, so how does it look this painfully below average visually in so many ways?
Far as I'm concerned the game looks gorgeous. Character models have never been Biowares speciality. The models in the original ME trilogy looked horrific at times. I'm not seeing the reason behind all the hate around FemRyder either. I think she looks interesting, animation is dodgy at times yes, but the actual base model I have no problems with. If you don't like it, just create your own, that's the whole point of including a character creator?
I think Scott Ryder looks generic as all hell basically, whereas she does not.
I think Scott Ryder looks generic as all hell basically, whereas she does not.
thepenguin55
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Yeah, this is something a lot of people don't realize. I guess you could argue that devs should stop revealing games via target renders but it is what it is.
noot noot
Thats still the most disturbing thing regarding the animations. I can handle a missing eye shader and get used to dead-eyed jank but this is just silly stuff.
wesleyshark
Banned
I dare say I like the way it looks now better than the reveal