RedlineRonin
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Gotcha, gotcha.
Here's hoping the tech makes its way into a 65" OLED some day....
Won't hold my breath though. Thanks for the info.
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Mass Effect: Andromeda |OT| Ryders on the Storm
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Gotcha, gotcha.
Here's hoping the tech makes its way into a 65" OLED some day....
Won't hold my breath though. Thanks for the info.
About three hours or so into the game, just got to the Nexus. I'm digging it so far. To me it just feels like a typical Bioware game, jank and all. I can see why people would be disappointed though. With a lot of open world games straddling the line between action and RPG, it kind of does feel like the genre may have left Bioware behind a bit. If you enjoyed the ME games though, nothing here should change your mind unless the game takes a nose dive later.
People who are interested in game development might find this comparison intriguing. I compared the EA Play trailer with the release (spoiler if you haven't seen the EA Play trailer or
loyalty mission). Things change in game development, yet it's still a huge difference in lighting. Marketing trailers are usually not representative of the final game, so this comparison doesn't really mean anything other than if you're interested in game development & marketing and how this game has changed throughout
I really wish we had gotten the former at least on PC
Drack's
I really wish we had gotten the former at least on PC
played for an hour, shut it off in dismay. voice acting is mediocre at best, the writing is terrible, and the gameplay/combat feels wonky and outdated, like ME1 was their base, rather than ME3. After landing on the first planet, I realized how good the worlds were in previous Mass Effect games, because Bioware knew better than to use the trope of (seemingly randomly placed) big glowing mushrooms. Ooooooh, so alien!
tried multi for 1 match. this is the same team that made the ME3 multiplayer? what the fuck happened to them? this is nowhere near the quality of 3.
tried multi for 1 match. this is the same team that made the ME3 multiplayer? what the fuck happened to them? this is nowhere near the quality of 3.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
I had not really been paying attention in the trial to this but I like how pretty much all NPCs just chat with each other.
The thing is, everyone is saying that it really picks up later, even though it had me from the jump. Of course I dig BioWare games, so there you go.
FrontalMonk
Banned
I think it feels like the work of a Bioware B-Team, but that aside I definitely agree here. Bioware is to Story RPGs what Bethesda is to "here's a big world, do whatever" RPGs. It's janky as fuck, usually pretty charming, with a fanbase that will always buy whatever they put out, but I do get the impression that as far as the rest of the gaming world is concerned, it left them behind. I'm loving ME:A a hell of a lot more than I ever enjoyed Fallout 4, but I feel a similar vibe.
Psyonix (Rocket League devs) worked on ME3's multiplayer so their absence here is very noticeable.
Florida_Man_5000
Member
That seems like an extremely limited sample size. 1 hour of sp and 1 match of mp. Hard to see how any RPG can hit its combat stride that quickly.
Conscience Falls
Member
Despite the total technical mess of the game, I'm enjoying what I've played so far. Just made it past the mission that the trial teases the player with and have seen more technical issues in said mission than anything in the hours prior.
Looking forward to getting into multiplayer but the microtransaction system looks to be pretty rough-- I thought premium packs were 10,000 points, not 100,000, jokes on me I guess.
Looking forward to getting into multiplayer but the microtransaction system looks to be pretty rough-- I thought premium packs were 10,000 points, not 100,000, jokes on me I guess.
RedlineRonin
Member
What is it that makes you feel that way?
I finished F4, but I was pretty burned out half way through, pushed to the end, and honestly don't remember a single thing about that game that I'd call "great." I was all just kind of, fine.
I liked my ten hours with the trial so far, so I'm wondering what the comparison is?
Wait, so this isn't the same team? I was under the impression the team behind the DLC and multi for 3 worked on Andromeda... It's like I can't find a straight answer on who actually worked on this game lol.
FrontalMonk
Banned
Same here. Hated FO4, love this game, couldn't see what people saw in FO4 but I definitely see the contrast between my experience with ME:A and animation-gate.
The fact that most people felt the same way you did, but the hardcore fanbase disagreed because of course it did, it's Bethesda fans.
(disclaimer: Bethesda fan since Daggerfall. FO4 didn't hook me, but I can see how "it's another Bethesda game" is all people needed, and "it's a new Mass Effect" is kind of my feeling there as well.)
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
Combat is frustrating early because of the lack of skills and high cooldowns.
But it does hit some really good highs
But it does hit some really good highs
This load in after a load was so bad on my X1 last night I had to record it.. this totally breaks any sort of immersion.
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/U2NUMB/video/28570050
I enjoyed the sequence before this but man this just killed me. Is the pop in this bad on the other platforms?
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/U2NUMB/video/28570050
I enjoyed the sequence before this but man this just killed me. Is the pop in this bad on the other platforms?
It's the "cool" thing to do right now. You know, there's a whole thread just for that and I'm sure over half of them had not played the final game.
maybe for a fresh IP, but this is the 4th game in a series, and it feels like shit to me compared to the previous entries.
The quote below:
I really feel I'm giving it a free pass because "Mass Effect" yet I fuckin love it since it is Mass Effect.
Reckless Onion
Member
I am counting 13/14 frames from camera input until movement on screen, that's just ridiculous.
Measured with 60fps camera on sub1 frame input lag monitor.
13*16,66= 216ms!!
ps4 pro btw
Measured with 60fps camera on sub1 frame input lag monitor.
13*16,66= 216ms!!
ps4 pro btw
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Enjoying the game, but I'm definitely noticing the lack of connective tissue in the writing.
Titanfall 2
Titanfall 2
Weird because i remember buying pilot skins and prime titans for real money
So mission points give a similar benefit to a purely multiplayer player that strike teams give to a purely singleplayer player. I see no issues with them.
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
Ya somebody needed to tell the writers to slow the F down.
Adding the scanning mechanic to "walk and talk" sections is a poor choice IMO.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I just want to say, now that I'm sinking time into it and not rushing like I did the trial, I'm really feeling what they're going for. Some characters and dialogue come across flat and dry in the same way so much of Mankind Divided did for me. Some of the tech doesn't shine through, particularly in Frostbite's unusual lighting and BioWare's odd facial rigging (the eyes, mainly). The production is scattered, weird absence of music at times, not particularly mouse/keyboard friendly UI, and so on. And the design doesn't always match my desires, like the massively reduced NPC control.
But I'm still feeling it. I'm still feeling Mass Effect, the vibe of the new setting, how the cast is coming together, and the far greater flexibility in control and play. I'll have a lot of thoughts to digest by the end, I'm sure of it. But for now I'm in all the way.
But I'm still feeling it. I'm still feeling Mass Effect, the vibe of the new setting, how the cast is coming together, and the far greater flexibility in control and play. I'll have a lot of thoughts to digest by the end, I'm sure of it. But for now I'm in all the way.
A Serious Man
Member
Running around Veold, starting to get SWTOR vibes. If all of the planets are like this (big and empty, with camps and enemy clusters randomly plunked down wherever) I'm going to be disappointed. DA:I's zones were fairly dense and a joy to explore, Veold feels like it was stretched out simply to accommodate the Nomad.
RedlineRonin
Member
Ahhhh, gotcha. So FO4 fans ostensibly liked a bad game, the same as ME:A fans. (lots of room for subjectivity in that statement).
I guess I just never knew anyone personally who was super passionate about FO4. To the point above about Bethesda fans though, I'm sure those people are out there.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
I am not there yet but I agree, that would be a big disappointment. Especially since sites like IGN said the worlds were interesting to explore a while ago and BioWare themselves said it really brought the sense of scale and exploration back. Let's hope they have the right sense of the idea of exploration.
therealminime
Member
I'm about 18 hours in and I think the best part of it, story wise, is the Tempest crew. Basically everyone on that ship is great and has a lot going on and the fact that they are always moving around after missions and talking to each other and have tons to say is really great. They've grown on me a ton. And the combat is amazing.
Florida_Man_5000
Member
Has anyone taken the Nomad off some sweet jumps? At work, please entertain me.
People who are interested in game development might find this comparison intriguing. I compared the EA Play trailer with the release (spoiler if you haven't seen the EA Play trailer orloyalty mission). Things change in game development, yet it's still a huge difference in lighting. Marketing trailers are usually not representative of the final game, so this comparison doesn't really mean anything other than if you're interested in game development & marketing and how this game has changed throughoutDrack's
I really wish we had gotten the former at least on PC
It's really amazing. I'm just dumbfounded when I see this and the other comparison floating around. How can something go from such high quality to so low quality? Surely there's no performance difference with the lighting, which is 1000 times better. In the other gif, why did the Krogan change to a clown? Why bother spending the time ruining what was great?
Compromises for consoles seems too simple an explanation. There are great looking console games out there, and this is a cutscene. So they have the ability to drop out loads of stuff.
that could be the issue. Essentially the engine is great at handling macro detail (landscapes, planets, vehicles) but it wasn't designed to handle the micro detail required for the movie-like experience of ME. Late in development they realized this and had to gut everything to make it work. Devs hit a wall in terms of their ability, and EA lost patience in terms of investment, and said salvage what you can, make it work.
It's SUCH a shame. Because if the above scenario is vaguely on point, there isn't really a single entity to blame.
RedlineRonin
Member
Nah, they're consumables
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
No they're consumables. Pull up the power wheel to use them
RPGCrazied
Member
How's the story? See this getting trash on Amazon. Is it that bad?
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
Early returns are not promising but the moment to moment gameplay is top notch. Still have time to turn it around tho
If it doesn't then this game is basically exact opposite of Dragon Age 2
I understand that, it's why I really enjoy MP games like overwatch and such, you just play.
Don't have time for MP like Andromeda, I wish parts of it wasn't tied to SP.
That's the parts I loved about DA:I, it was dense in areas and it had a lot of places no marked you can explore. So far, going out of my way to random areas has literally yielded nothing. Zilch. Hopefully that changes.
paragonpro
Banned
Im gonna restart for the third time tonight and just choose default male ryder, twice now ive tried to make a character with this thing and twice it has not looked right, they really screwed up with character creator, even inquisitions was better.
They really turned the Nathan Drake dial up to 11. Snark snark snark. Have a feeling I'm not gonna be a fan of the writing in this game, series has always been corny but everyone doesn't have to be a shitty comedian either.
Jetpack and the cover system feels off to me, haven't gotten used to either yet. I'll spec vanguard as usual but so far it seems like ME3 combat with some tweaks that may or may not be for the better.
Jetpack and the cover system feels off to me, haven't gotten used to either yet. I'll spec vanguard as usual but so far it seems like ME3 combat with some tweaks that may or may not be for the better.
It's like the mp in ME3. There are 7 waves. Some waves your objective is to just survive the enemies. Other rounds you are given an objective that includes things such as sitting in a circle with all your teammates while a bar fills up or run around the map disarming items 1 at a time. The final wave (7) is the extraction wave. You hold out until the timer expires and you get a bonus if the full team extracts.
It's 4 player co-op
I gave Mass Effect:Andromeda's co-op mode a fair chance. About 5 hours worth of a fair chance. It's not fun and seems to push you to purchase the micro transactions for more characters/better gear or to grind the hell out of it. I can't handle a game like that when I'm not having fun. Out of the bronze difficulty (easiest) missions I've done throughout the night, only ONE has managed to extract after finishing the six waves of random missions.
This is bad game design. This is game design that wants you to open up your wallet beyond the $60 for the good stuff. I'm done with the multiplayer because it's a cash-grab grinding waste of time that quite frankly is not fun to me.
I'll try the single player more since it's not due back until 9:00 PM on Wednesday but honestly I kinda wish I would've rented Horizon: Zerp Dawn or Ghost Recon: Wildlands again, or hell, even For Honor with its horrible P2P net-code.
At least I had a free credit from Red Box to rent this turd. If the single player campaign changes my mind I'll chug a 40 oz of Miller High Life while Live-Streaming on Facebook but that won't happen because the game is an utter disappointment.
This is bad game design. This is game design that wants you to open up your wallet beyond the $60 for the good stuff. I'm done with the multiplayer because it's a cash-grab grinding waste of time that quite frankly is not fun to me.
I'll try the single player more since it's not due back until 9:00 PM on Wednesday but honestly I kinda wish I would've rented Horizon: Zerp Dawn or Ghost Recon: Wildlands again, or hell, even For Honor with its horrible P2P net-code.
At least I had a free credit from Red Box to rent this turd. If the single player campaign changes my mind I'll chug a 40 oz of Miller High Life while Live-Streaming on Facebook but that won't happen because the game is an utter disappointment.
thepenguin55
Member
I would be into default Ryder but his beard is the worst. I'm a beard man and Scott Ryder has a terrible beard. Having said that, I'm still trying to decide which Ryder to go with.