And the writing was straight up Honor Harrington awesome pulpy trash, the perfect balance of down to earthiness (lol) and epic dumb drama.
The balance was off after that though and everything went downhill.
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Mass Effect: Andromeda | Review Thread
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And the writing was straight up Honor Harrington awesome pulpy trash, the perfect balance of down to earthiness (lol) and epic dumb drama.
The balance was off after that though and everything went downhill.
Diprosalic
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MGS4 and UC4 get shit on a lot as well and yet they won GAF GOTY.
they are pretty controversial games.
MGS4
A Serious Man
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Wrong thread.
2014 was a dark year... likely Alien Isolation should have won all charts due to lacking competition but it's a rather niche title i.e further down gaf's goty list.
It's in my top 3 or 4 of this generation.
Did it have some issues? Yes. But it also had a cast I really really loved, and gameplay that I thought was great. With the DLC that's now available it's a fucking amazing game.
GAF has a pretty vocal backlash that happens to 'popular' games.
god damn lmao
Soul of the Beast
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For what reasons exactly? How does that even work? Only because you liked The Order more than most people and liked MGSV less?
Review scores in general are just stupid, rating a piece of work with numbers...based on feelings. How do you even measure your feelings? Do they not know that feelings can change over time?
When I was a kid the best game I've played was Doom 3, so that was my 10/10 at the time, Until I played F.E.A.R and Half-Life 2....my score for Doom 3 soon becomes a 7/10 (Now it's more like a 4/10 for me If I really have to rate it.)
Review scores are just dumb.
Horizon Zero Dawn got 89 on Metacrirtic while Nioh gets 88. Does that make Horizon better than Nioh, if so, in exactly what way?
wow 75, i'm not shocked as it seemed like this was on the cards a little while ago, but damn, i thought maybe low 80's would sneak in.
it'll still sell good i imagine, 75 isn't bad by any means but when you think of all the great games we've had this year already this is a dissapointment.
it'll still sell good i imagine, 75 isn't bad by any means but when you think of all the great games we've had this year already this is a dissapointment.
molnizzle
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2014 was a terrible year for AAA video games.
Sad to see that the reception isn't as good as the previous ones. The game has some faults with the most obvious one in the animations. But the Gameplay was really fun and I also liked the story in the Origin Access Trial. Whatever happened during the the development of the game, I hope they can make another and more polished Mass Effect Game in the future.
While I agree that the excuse isn't great, and that DA:I has somewhat better animations than the ones I experienced in my trial of ME:A (in which a number of animations looked simply unfinished), I disagree that it "looked great." I thought that the NPCs, by and large, looked weird and a little waxy (which I eventually got used to), and that a number of long conversations were nearly ruined by the lack of effort put into the animation (I'm referring to the large numbers of conversations conducted from some random perspective at a sizable distance from the characters, with only default animations - this I did not get used to)
BlackProdigy
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Bioware falling off
Lister
Banned
Argumentum ad populum. It's almost like they don't teach logical fallacies in school anymore.
Darkstorne
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And it suffers from exactly the same stiff animations. I'm literally replaying it right now to scratch my Bioware itch and wait for ME:A to drop in price a bit. The only reason DA:I (mostly) received a pass on this front is because it was a cross-gen game "held back" by last gen consoles. Everyone expected the biggest flaws to be addressed in Bioware's next game, and for whatever reason they weren't. I wouldn't be so hasty to place that blame on a lack of talent over other factors like the FPS engine's toolset.
I haven't seen much but I did read one review that said they were essentially nonsensical in their actions in apparently shooting at you was counterproductive to their goals.
killatopak
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???
Horizon, Until Dawn, Death Stranding and Killzone Shadowfall uses the same engine.
I was specifically talking about IGNs review.
They generally don't.
miller.skippins
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welp...even johnny 'happyconsolegamer' millenium is disappointed in it.
Dragon Age Inquisition had some amazing components.
They just tried to fill that game with too much stuff, without signalling which stuff was important and which stuff should be basically ignored. But a lot of the basic stuff in that game was REALLY GOOD.
ME: A seems to have some problems on a deeper conceptual level.
Go to a new Galaxy: Same old races
Slow space exploration
"witty dialogue"
It seems like a game that probably went back on the drawing board several times, and the completed product isn't the culmination of years of work, but the scraps of salvage they could pull out from it
They just tried to fill that game with too much stuff, without signalling which stuff was important and which stuff should be basically ignored. But a lot of the basic stuff in that game was REALLY GOOD.
ME: A seems to have some problems on a deeper conceptual level.
Go to a new Galaxy: Same old races
Slow space exploration
"witty dialogue"
It seems like a game that probably went back on the drawing board several times, and the completed product isn't the culmination of years of work, but the scraps of salvage they could pull out from it
Lister
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And we're worse for it.
Melchiah
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I guess it depends on how you look at it, and what you expected from the game. Based on the review snippets in the OP, it sounds like a fine game. It's not perfect, but very few games are without flaws. I'm perfectly fine, if it offers as good gameplay and multiplayer as ME3 did. I can look past the goofy animations, just like I did in ME1, which I was able to enjoy eventhough it had the worst combat in the series.
So, what's 75%, where MEA currently sits at?
Mass Effect
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I expect the bolded.
TBH, I'm kind of worried for the franchise. If Andromeda doesn't do well, we might not be getting another Mass Effect for a long time, especially since Star Wars is becoming EA's next big focus.
fair enough
I'm gonna have to sift through as many of these reviews I can. Many have brought up the point of Meta score not reflecting how they ended up feeling about the game themselves. Higher scoring games being disappointments to them, lower scoring games being great to them.
With that being said this kind of confirms my preconceived notions that I've taken mostly from formulating my own opinions on videos over the weeks. Playing the trial gave mixed feelings, and ultimately I can get over the animation and character model jank, but the game play and overall game design didn't really hit for me. I think I'm just getting tired of the constantly rehashed philosophy of having huge open maps filled with a bunch of points to check off of a list. With as much crap as I gave ME2 and ME3 for becoming mostly linear experiences, I'm starting to miss that kind of focus. ME:A looks to be a time consuming endeavor that has way too much tedium filling that time with going from point to point rinsing and repeating the same processes over and over.
Still picking up my pre-order from BB due to getting it for $38, but I really feel like I need to go through all of these reviews before deciding whether to dip into it.
With that being said this kind of confirms my preconceived notions that I've taken mostly from formulating my own opinions on videos over the weeks. Playing the trial gave mixed feelings, and ultimately I can get over the animation and character model jank, but the game play and overall game design didn't really hit for me. I think I'm just getting tired of the constantly rehashed philosophy of having huge open maps filled with a bunch of points to check off of a list. With as much crap as I gave ME2 and ME3 for becoming mostly linear experiences, I'm starting to miss that kind of focus. ME:A looks to be a time consuming endeavor that has way too much tedium filling that time with going from point to point rinsing and repeating the same processes over and over.
Still picking up my pre-order from BB due to getting it for $38, but I really feel like I need to go through all of these reviews before deciding whether to dip into it.
Oh fuck off this is some subjective shit about what games people like. We're not debating climate change or tax policy up here. Jesus christ.
FlutterPuffs
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and Capcom last gen with their fantastic MT Framework.
People are demonising a fucking game engine now?
As a huge fan of the original trilogy this is hugely (mass-ively?) disappointing, but the good thing is that at least we saw it coming a mile off.
From the very moment we first saw Peebee and then saw her 'goofy running away' animation I was thinking 'hmmmm... something not right here'. And from then on it just got worse and worse.
From the very moment we first saw Peebee and then saw her 'goofy running away' animation I was thinking 'hmmmm... something not right here'. And from then on it just got worse and worse.
molnizzle
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Crazy how we still see these types of comments after all these years.
It's about expectations, a 7 is good for some no-name eurojank game that gets to be "hidden gem" status, whereas the start of the next Mass Effect trilogy is expected to get at least a 9.
Darkstorne
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Eh? They use Decima. EA games all use Frostbite.
AlexFlame116
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Even though it's probably a design issue and most likely can't be fixed, I hope that Bioware at least fixes some of the weird animation problems.
Either way I'm getting the game!
Either way I'm getting the game!
Cause it already shipped heh heh...
Lister
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Your comment is bannable, by the way, I'd editi it. I won't report you, but still.
What are we discussing and debating if not what you said? It's still not ok to come in with logical fallacies, regardless of the world impacting or triviality of the discussion, and expect to be greeted with anything but an eye roll.
Hero_of_the_Day
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Glad it's not a complete disaster. Dissapointed it seems to have not turned out great, though.
OmegaDL50
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Developed by the B-Team and not handled by the main Bioware staff is what happened.
The Sum of Zero
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Eh, I really don't give a fuck what the score is. Still getting it tomorrow.
Reviewers haven't been using the full scale unless a game outright doesn't work, a 7 is pretty bad.
From a couple of reviews I've read, it certainly feels like that.
A lot of people in his first impressions thread are starting to look outright silly, considering how they went on and on about how only GAF and RPS were seeing the pretty evident negative stuff in the game.
-tetsuo-
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Shadows of Mordor isn't even close to great. This coming from someone who likes the game a lot.
Popularity does not make a game good. It makes it popular.
SkyTurnsRed
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Zelda does a -lot- of things better than Andromeda does. That is immediately apparent within the first hour.
Also, if you actually read the IGN review...
You could tell even a number of reviewers weren't hot on this. This wasn't some blindside sort of thing.
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