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[Jag]

Edited the title and added the post about Adel Termos. RIP for your bravery and sacrifice.

Also note, this happened before Paris. It just didn't get nearly as much press as it needs.

Islamic State claims responsibility for Beirut suicide bombings that kill dozens

BEIRUT — Twin suicide bombings claimed by the Islamic State killed dozens of people and wounded more than 200 in Beirut on Thursday, raising fears of intensified attempts by the radical Sunni group to undermine Lebanon’s fragile stability.

In the worst attack to hit the Lebanese capital in years, assailants targeted a southern suburb where many loyalists of the powerful Shiite Hezbollah militia live. The incident killed at least 37 people, officials said, and left little doubt that the attackers struck with the intent of stirring up Lebanon’s volatile sectarian divisions.

Didn't see a thread for this. It's a pretty big escalation of the proxy war spilling out of Syria and into other countries.

Terrorists killing each other is fine. I'm surprised IS actually went after Hezbollah since they both hate similar things. It's just horrible and a tragedy for the innocents caught in the middle.

Edited:

The death total could easily have been s larger or greater than Paris had it not been for one man.

http://mic.com/articles/128551/terr...anon-kills-43-and-injures-hundreds#.VBjMyUasI

This man is a true hero.

 

[Ethelwulf]

This is absolutely horrifying...

 

[MisterFalcon]

Terrorists killing each other is fine. I'm surprised IS actually went after Hezbollah since they both hate similar things. It's just horrible and a tragedy for the innocents caught in the middle.

IS hates Hezbollah more then anything, an army of Shia heretics.

 

[RumblingRosco]

I hate humans.

 

[Walpurgis]

Animals. I wonder where things will go from here. Russia supports Shias so how will they respond?

 

[Orkidea]

What the fuck. Horrible..

 

[Suen]

We have a Lebanese Shia poster here don't we? Hope he's safe, would be great to let us he wasn't anywhere close to that area.

Suicide bombers were a Palestinian and Syrian.

Islamic State claims responsibility for Beirut suicide bombings that kill dozens



Didn't see a thread for this. It's a pretty big escalation of the proxy war spilling out of Syria and into other countries.

Terrorists killing each other is fine. I'm surprised IS actually went after Hezbollah since they both hate similar things. It's just horrible and a tragedy for the innocents caught in the middle.

How does Hezbollah and ISIS even hate similar things?

Western media have constantly pointed out how the suburb is lots of Shiite Hezbollah militia are located. It's constantly described as a "Hezbollah stronghold", "Hezbollah-dominated suburbs" and "Hezbollah Bastion". How about calling it what it is, a fucking civilian area instead of trying to make it out to be some large militia camp to make the action seem more "justified" or "understandable"? Western journalism taking it to another level of disgustingness.

 

[Sijil]

This is ISIS's retaliation for their recent defeat by Hezbollah in Eastern Aleppo, they couldn't handle actual men who can fight so they choose to go after innocent civilians.

I have friends near the blast area, thankfully none of them were hurt. It was 4 suicide bombers, 2 detonated, one failed since he was killed by one of the detonations and the fourth was caught alive.

Islamic State claims responsibility for Beirut suicide bombings that kill dozens



Didn't see a thread for this. It's a pretty big escalation of the proxy war spilling out of Syria and into other countries.

Terrorists killing each other is fine. I'm surprised IS actually went after Hezbollah since they both hate similar things. It's just horrible and a tragedy for the innocents caught in the middle.

What? Do you even know the middle east? Do you even read the news? Hezbollah has been fighting ISIS since day one. ISIS= hardline wahhabi fscists, Hezbollah = Shia, they're mortal enemies since 1400 years. They've been fighting each other in Syria for 4 years, Hezbollah kicked ISIS out of the Qalamoun mountains on the Syrian border and just helped the Syrian army break a 3 year long siege by ISIS on an airbase in east Aleppo.

 

[Jag]

Hezbollah has killed more Americans than ISIS. They are all terrorists and should be destroyed.

 

[ZiZ]

Hezbollah has killed more Americans than ISIS. They are all terrorists and should be destroyed.

only they didn't kill members of Hezbollah, they killed innocent civilians.

 

[Shaanyboi]

fucking hell...

 

[Oersted]

Some of the responses in this thread are sadly telling how Isis could become such a huge thing.

 

[Kenshin001]

only they didn't kill members of Hezbollah, they killed innocent civilians.

They killed three members of Hezbollah. It's a Hezbollah stronghold, not sure why the media should shy away from this fact. Always bad that civilians are killed but I expect that is going to become a regular occurrence with Hezbollah aiding Assad, who has no qualms whatsoever bombing civilians.

 

[Sijil]

Hezbollah has killed more Americans than ISIS. They are all terrorists and should be destroyed.

Hezbollah killed more American soldiers than ISIS, soldiers that were occupying my country and shelling West Beirut. Clear difference. Hezbollah is a legitimate political entity with MP's and ministers where I'm from. But yeah sure excuse the massacre, 43 innocent dead, women, children among them, whole families ruined but yeah they're just terrorists killing each other.

They killed three members of Hezbollah. It's a Hezbollah stronghold, not sure why the media should shy away from this fact. Always bad that civilians are killed but I expect that is going to become a regular occurrence with Hezbollah aiding Assad, who has no qualms whatsoever bombing civilians.

Typical apologist reaction to the massacre. You're implying that the civilians dead were collateral damage and that benevolent ISIS was targeting a military position in retaliation to Hezbollah aiding the regime, when in fact it was popular civilian market bustling with innocent people and as if ISIS is actually retaliating for civilian death in Syria and not reacting to military defeats. Sickening.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Insanity..RIP.

 

[Tinfoilhatsron]

Typical apologist reaction to the massacre. You're implying that the civilians dead were collateral damage and that benevolent ISIS was targeting a military position, when in fact it was popular civilian market bustling with innocent people. Sickening.

Isn't he some ISIS troll? Used to be one but thought he was banned...

 

[Valhelm]

Terrorists killing each other is fine. I'm surprised IS actually went after Hezbollah since they both hate similar things. It's just horrible and a tragedy for the innocents caught in the middle.

This attitude is fucking poisonous. "Radical Islam" is an awful phrase because it ignores the heavy sectarian nature of modern-day terrorism. Essentially every terrorist group of Muslim terrorists besides Hezbollah are Wahhabi Sunni Muslims. Hezbollah is unique because it's a Shia paramilitary groups. Hezbollah, despite being awful, is not comparable to Al-Qaeda or ISIS in terms of its harm. Shia extremism is generally much less restrictive than Sunni extremism, which is why Iran has much more ethical laws than the very Sunni Saudi Arabia.

ISIS hates Shia Muslims much more than it hates Christians, due to esoteric theologicla reasons. In addition, Christians are technically protected by the Quran. Heretics are not. I'd guess that a plurality of their victims have been Shia, because ISIS has been mostly fighting the Shia minority in Syria and the Shia majority in Iraq.

 

[Stinkles]

Hezbollah has killed more Americans than ISIS. They are all terrorists and should be destroyed.

Learn to read. Also learn a book about anything really.

 

[mAcOdIn]

Western media have constantly pointed out how the suburb is lots of Shiite Hezbollah militia are located. It's constantly described as a "Hezbollah stronghold", "Hezbollah-dominated suburbs" and "Hezbollah Bastion". How about calling it what it is, a fucking civilian area instead of trying to make it out to be some large militia camp to make the action seem more "justified" or "understandable"? Western journalism taking it to another level of disgustingness.

I've always been curious about this since I'm ignorant in this area. Any time I've ever seen aftermath on tv of attacks on Hezbollah or other groups it usually doesn't look like what I'd expect a stronghold to look like. What would be a good way to describe how it works to a westerner? Is it like how we imagine gangs or organized crime syndicates to work where this is merely their turf but they're really just a few people amongst a bunch of normal people?

 

[Sijil]

I've always been curious about this since I'm ignorant in this area. Any time I've ever seen aftermath on tv of attacks on Hezbollah or other groups it usually doesn't look like what I'd expect a stronghold to look like. What would be a good way to describe how it works to a westerner? Is it like how we imagine gangs or organized crime syndicates to work where this is merely their turf but they're really just a few people amongst a bunch of normal people?

It's just a popular market, middle to lower class civilians mostly. They're Shia in majority with several Palestinian refugees (Sunni) since they have a camp nearby. The area looks like any middle class third world popular market.

The civilians are pro Hezbollah, since Hezbollah is a legitimate political organization with MP's and ministers in office. There a checkpoints doting the entrance but they're manned by Lebanese army, no different that any other are in Beirut.

 

[DiscoJer]

This attitude is fucking poisonous. "Radical Islam" is an awful phrase because it ignores the heavy sectarian nature of modern-day terrorism. Essentially every terrorist group of Muslim terrorists besides Hezbollah are Wahhabi Sunni Muslims. Hezbollah is unique because it's a Shia paramilitary groups. Hezbollah, despite being awful, is not comparable to Al-Qaeda or ISIS in terms of its harm. Shia extremism is generally much less restrictive than Sunni extremism, which is why Iran has much more ethical laws than the very Sunni Saudi Arabia.
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The same Iran that executes lots and lots of people for crimes that aren't particularly serious? (and non-crimes like being gay)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/23/executions-iran-1000-this-year-amnesty-international

According to a report published in March by Ahmed Shaheed, the UN special rapporteur on Iran, at least 753 people were executed in 2014, a 12-year high.

Shaheed called for “a moratorium on executions”, noting that most executions were for drug-related crimes, as well as adultery, sodomy and “vaguely worded national security offences”.

And note that the story is about how Iran is executing even more people this year.

 

[Kenshin001]

Hezbollah killed more American soldiers than ISIS, soldiers that were occupying my country and shelling West Beirut. Clear difference. Hezbollah is a legitimate political entity with MP's and ministers where I'm from. But yeah sure excuse the massacre, 43 innocent dead, women, children among them, whole families ruined but yeah they're just terrorists killing each other.

Yes Hezbollah has killed more Americans than IS. The US wasn't occupying Beirut, they were there as part of a peacekeeping mission at the request of the Lebanese government. Hezbollah blew them and the French up with truck bombs just like IS terrorists do today. Fuck Hezbollah.

Typical apologist reaction to the massacre. You're implying that the civilians dead were collateral damage and that benevolent ISIS was targeting a military position in retaliation to Hezbollah aiding the regime, when in fact it was popular civilian market bustling with innocent people and as if ISIS is actually retaliating for civilian death in Syria and not reacting to military defeats. Sickening.

I'm not implying they were targeting a military position at all. The fact is they were targeting a Hezbollah stronghold. Neither side really cares if the targets are military or civilian. Only two weeks ago Assad's forces dropped a barrel bomb on a market bustling with innocent people, killing 55, because it is a stronghold of Jaysh al-Islam. How do you feel about that?

 

[Matt]

The same Iran that executes lots and lots of people for crimes that aren't particularly serious? (and non-crimes like being gay)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/23/executions-iran-1000-this-year-amnesty-international



And note that the story is about how Iran is executing even more people this year.

Iran is far, far from perfect (or anything close to it) obviously, but it is way more liberal and open than Saudi Arabia.

 

[Ape]

god damn.
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RIP seriouslu.

illt ell you, there are some dudes in my class that will latch on to shit like this to desciminate musslium students at my school

such bullshit

 

[spineduke]

In case anyone is wondering, yes Hezbollah is a terrorist organization - despite what some may be desperate to present as true, their weapons and mlitia are NOT sanctioned by the Lebanese government or the constitution. Our legislative process is frozen and we have no president because they will not allow anyone with a neutral or anti Hezb stance to take role of the presidency irrespective of popular vote or opinion.

Raad says void better than president elected by majority lacking clear vision

They have hijacked the constitution and the country is running at their mercy and adhoc governance. God help us.

I don't condone this - noone deserves to be murdered this way. It's just not a life that any normal person wants to choose.

Thanks Hezbollah. /s

 

[Sijil]

Yes Hezbollah has killed more Americans than IS. The US wasn't occupying Beirut, they were there as part of a peacekeeping mission at the request of the Lebanese government. Hezbollah blew them and the French up with truck bombs just like IS terrorists do today. Fuck Hezbollah.

No, don't teach me about my country, Hezbollah blew the barracks because the US stopped being peacekeepers and started shelling West Beirut killing civilians, they stopped being neutral and became a part of the civil war. The Lebanese government did not request the US aid, because there was no legitimate government back then since the Parliament was dissolved because of the Israeli invasion, Amin Gemayel was not a legitimate president nor his government.

The US acted on behalf of the Phalangists and thus made themselves targets in a civil. The Marines were fair game at that point and they deserved it.

I'm not implying they were targeting a military position at all. The fact is they were targeting a Hezbollah stronghold. Neither side really cares if the targets are military or civilian. Only two weeks ago Assad's forces dropped a barrel bomb on a market bustling with innocent people, killing 55, because it is a stronghold of Jaysh al-Islam. How do you feel about that?

Jaysh al Islam has fighters present in Douma in every street, taking cover behind civilians. There was no Hezbollah military presence in the area targeted. Stop trying to justify this. ISIS apologists sicken me.

 

[Sijil]

In case anyone is wondering, yes Hezbollah is a terrorist organization - despite what some may be desperate to present as true, their weapons and mlitia are NOT sanctioned by the Lebanese government or the constitution. Our legislative process is frozen and we have no president because they will not allow anyone with a neutral or anti Hezb stance to take role of the presidency irrespective of popular vote or opinion.

Raad says void better than president elected by majority lacking clear vision

They have hijacked the constitution and the country is running at their mercy and adhoc governance. God help us.

I don't condone this - noone deserves to be murdered this way. It's just not a life that any normal person wants to choose.

Thanks Hezbollah. /s

Stop bullshiting. Every government made it clear with every announcement when it was formed that the resistance has the approval of the government as a whole, what different political parties, especially those aligned with Israel think can rot in hell. They would be at the mercy of ISIS if it weren't for Hezbollah's actions in Arsal, but they're ungrateful and ignorant. Where the Lebanese army stalled, Hezbollah smashed in.

Hezbollah and their allies as political parties present in parliament and the cabinet have every constitutional right to refuse any president that does not fit their view. By your logic Mustahbal is a terrorist organization for refusing Aoun as president.

Second Hezbollah is not recognized as a terrorist organization by the government nor by any Lebanese security apparatus. What you think is irrelevant, as far as I'm concerned the Future movement and the Saudis behind them are terrorist supporting organizations.

 

[dripdripsplash]

Hezbollah has killed more Americans than ISIS. They are all terrorists and should be destroyed.

That's the most ignorant post I've read all day.

Jesus.

Read a god damn book.

Do something with your life.

 

[dripdripsplash]

Yes Hezbollah has killed more Americans than IS. The US wasn't occupying Beirut, they were there as part of a peacekeeping mission at the request of the Lebanese government. Hezbollah blew them and the French up with truck bombs just like IS terrorists do today. Fuck Hezbollah.



I'm not implying they were targeting a military position at all. The fact is they were targeting a Hezbollah stronghold. Neither side really cares if the targets are military or civilian. Only two weeks ago Assad's forces dropped a barrel bomb on a market bustling with innocent people, killing 55, because it is a stronghold of Jaysh al-Islam. How do you feel about that?

Oh, oh Assad did it, then it's allright that other groups do it.

How about condemning both of the attacks.

Jesus.

I'm anti-Assad btw..

 

[Dude Abides]

Kinda weird to see Israel fans acting as ISIS apologists.

 

[spineduke]

Stop bullshiting. Every government made it clear with every announcement when it was formed that the resistance has the approval of the government as a whole, what different political parties, especially those aligned with Israel think can rot in hell. They would be at the mercy of ISIS if it weren't for Hezbollah's actions in Arsal, but they're ungrateful and ignorant. Where the Lebanese army stalled, Hezbollah smashed in.

Hezbollah and their allies as political parties present in parliament and the cabinet have every constitutional right to refuse any president that does not fit their view. By your logic Mustahbal is a terrorist organization for refusing Aoun as president.

Second Hezbollah is not recognized as a terrorist organization by the government nor by any Lebanese security apparatus. What you think is irrelevant, as far as I'm concerned the Future movement and the Saudis behind them are terrorist supporting organizations.

Way to strawman the argument there. There is no legal process or document that legitimizes their milita. None, whatsoever. And if they wish to elect Aoun or whoever, let them go vote for him in parliament. But that's not necessary - they rather just paralyze the institutions and run their own little mini-state while they run their little war.

I know many Shia'a who secretly oppose Hizbollah. But we know what happens to those who dare open their mouths.

I don't hold any heart for most of the political parties (Mustaqbal included), but their agenda in particular is destroying the very fabric of the country.

 

[More Fun To Compute]

Another thread filled with game wardens who decide which humans are fair game to cull or not. Apparently in this thread it's all Jews, US Marines and ISIS which there is an open season on but Hezbollah no permit. Interesting legal news for murderers.

 

[Anion]

Kinda weird to see Israel fans acting as ISIS apologists.

I've noticed this in general too, like not necessarily apologists. Odd but not if you think about it

 

[Dynedom]

Kinda weird to see Israel fans acting as ISIS apologists.

We're through the looking glass

 

[Jag]

Oh, oh Assad did it, then it's allright that other groups do it.

How about condemning both of the attacks.

Jesus.

I'm anti-Assad btw..

That's the point. They are all fucking evil. ISIS is the worst, but Assad and Hezbollah have no problem blowing up innocents with suicide belts or bombs. In a perfect world they would all blow themselves up and stop murdering innocent people who have done nothing wrong but just want to live their lives.

People should condemn all 3 for the horror and suffering they bring.

Another thread filled with game wardens who decide which humans are fair game to cull or not. Apparently in this thread it's all Jews, US Marines and ISIS which there is an open season on but Hezbollah no permit. Interesting legal news for murderers.

It should be open season on ISIS, Hezbollah and Assad. The murderers, not the innocents caught in their path, including the innocents killed in Beirut.

 

[abbyabs]

Its a shame that everyone falls for the shia vs sunni trap its not really been massive issued until governments try to create dived for political gain. Just like in Yugoslavia,one day hes your neighbour next day here is your enemy.

Nothing is ever black and white.

 

[Gintamen]

Typical apologist reaction to the massacre.... Sickening.

Morel ike typical Kenshin post. And yeah quiet sickening.

Nothing is ever black and white.

IS is always a deeeeeeeeeeep black.

 

[LNBL]

Islamic State claims responsibility for Beirut suicide bombings that kill dozens



Didn't see a thread for this. It's a pretty big escalation of the proxy war spilling out of Syria and into other countries.

Terrorists killing each other is fine. I'm surprised IS actually went after Hezbollah since they both hate similar things. It's just horrible and a tragedy for the innocents caught in the middle.

What do you even mean with this? It makes no sense at all. IS consists of extremist Sunni's that would kill every Shiite in sight if they could.

And people that are calling the location a Hezbollah stronghold, instead of a location that is a well known commercial spot in order to attempt any sort of justification of this attack are terrible.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Wait we'll defending Hezbollah now?

The US acted on behalf of the Phalangists and thus made themselves targets in a civil. The Marines were fair game at that point and they deserved it.

So did the victims of flight flight 901 deserve it too?

Did the victims of 2012 Burgas bus bombing deserve it?

How many embassy attacks has Hezbollah taken credit for?

I understand armed struggle against a a foreign occupier/attacker, but innocent people on planes? WTf

 

[LNBL]

Wait we'll defending Hezbollah now?



So did the victims of flight flight 901 deserve it too?

Did the victims of 2012 Burgas bus bombing deserve it?

How many embassy attacks has Hezbollah taken credit for?

I understand armed struggle against a a foreign occupier/attacker, but innocent people on planes? WTf

Where does he even mention that innocent civilians deserve it? He's talking about army forces. How about quoting the part before those 2 sentences and not pulling it out of context.

 

[Jag]

Wait we'll defending Hezbollah now?

So did the victims of flight flight 901 deserve it too?

Did the victims of 2012 Burgas bus bombing deserve it?

How many embassy attacks has Hezbollah taken credit for?

I understand armed struggle against a a foreign occupier/attacker, but innocent people on planes? WTf

And the Jewish community center bombing in Argentina.

What do you even mean with this? It makes no sense at all. IS consists of extremist Sunni's that would kill every Shiite in sight if they could.

I figured they hated the West more than the Shiites. I wasn't aware that their deep hatred for Shiites went far enough to open a front in Beirut. I don't mind being educated on that aspect of the conflict. I really don't know much about it, which is why I said I was surprised. I understand IS attacking in Iraq and Syria for more land, but Beirut didn't make sense.

Has there always been violent armed conflict of this level between Sunnis and Shiites or is this a relatively new thing?

 

[Jag]

double post

 

[BajiBoxer]

Hezbollah has killed more Americans than ISIS. They are all terrorists and should be destroyed.

Irrelevant, this is a civilian suburb dumbass.

 

[CHEEZMO™]

Jaysh al Islam has fighters present in Douma in every street, taking cover behind civilians.

MarkRegev.txt

 

[rrvv]

understandably Pari bombings is bigger but is kinda sad that few people actually care for this news

 

[Insane Metal]

Oh man... they're going (even more) nuts. This will not end well

 

[Nutter]

Did ISIS wake up today and say fuck everyone?

These nut jobs need to be wiped from this planet.

 

[NEO0MJ]

understandably Pari bombings is bigger but is kinda sad that few people actually care for this news

It's unfortunately considered normal these days for such attacks to occur in the middle east and so are considered non--events, unlike what happened in Paris.

 

[CassCade]

Damn, my uncle was planning a trip to Beirut next month.
Fuckin Savages

 

[dabig2]

understandably Pari bombings is bigger but is kinda sad that few people actually care for this news

As Heath Joker said, "it's all apart of the plan". Horrifying that the madman gets it the most.