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Masterpieces are being ignored, unfairly attacked or underrated

ResetEraVetVIP

ResetEraVetVIP

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This trend HAS to stop, It’s detrimental to the video game industry as a whole. I recently read about how Alan Wake 2 barely turned a profit and it really confirmed that masterpieces get bad publicity and reputation for various stupid reasons. Alan Wake 2 isn’t alone. You have The Order 1886, Hellblade 2, Death Stranding, Days Gone, TLOU 2 etc. These sorts games get treated like “normal” games when they are sometimes milestones in the industry and should be treated as such, no matter if you personally liked them or not.

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Meanwhile Madden #4738284 and Call of Duty #43773 are great and popular…bad bad trend.

Edit 2 : Added Death Stranding to main post.
 
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FeralEcho

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Some of those are very divisive games in nature so obviously not everyone will share the same opinion on them. But most are universally praised by critics and have done well financially so what's the problem here? People having different opinions on certain things?
 
NeverYouMind

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- Alan Wake 2 made its bed when it decided the game should mostly be about another character, released it digitally only, and decided Epic money is better than PC gamer money.

- Hellblade 2 is more a cinematic experience than a game.

- The Order 1886 is half baked, forces long cutscenes, and barely has unscripted interactions.

- The Last of Us II screwed the pooch because the original was about the last living survivors of the outbreak.

- Days Gone is amazing nowadays but it did not release in this perfect form.

P.S. If Remedy released a standalone Night Springs DLC (from Alan Wake 2) on Steam for $20 I would bite in a heartbeat.
 
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DoubleClutch

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You know what is a bigger problem? Toxic positivity. Where any negative view, however slight, is demonized.

Now we have game companies suing people for slander. If there’s so much bad blood towards your product, perhaps you’re doing something wrong.

I didn’t like AW2 because I wanted to play as Alan Wake and not Saga Anderson.

* Sees ‘Alan Wake 2’*

“Yes! FINALLY”

*You play as some random black woman*

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Also, you’re a racist misogynist if you have anything to say about it.
 
Brigandier

Brigandier

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ResetEraVetVIP said:
This trend HAS to stop, It’s detrimental to the video game industry as a whole. I recently read about how Alan Wake 2 barely turned a profit and it really confirmed that masterpieces get bad publicity and reputation for various stupid reasons. Alan Wake 2 isn’t alone. You have The Order 1886, Hellblade 2, Days Gone, TLOU 2 etc. These sorts games get treated like “normal” games when they are sometimes milestones in the industry and should be treated as such, no matter if you personally liked them or not.
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Angry_Megalodon

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I'm aware this is futile, but I'll take the bait.

- Days Gone: most people love it, the media hates it. For complaints, at another desk.

- Hellblade 2: visually stunning walking-sim, hardly a videogame. Too high MC score. People neither love it or hate it. No reason to complain.

- The Order: more of a videogame than Hellblade, but too short and unfinished. Great graphics and characters. Fair criticism.

- Alan Wake 2: not a referent in any aspect. Niche game with a minor controversy nobody gives a damn about. No reason to complain.

And finally, the real reason for your post. Very subtle, indeed.

TLOU 2: media darling, top visuals and animations, and a controversial story with plot holes the size of my head. All that is objective. The subjective thing is how well or badly people swallowed certain decisions. Even so, they don't complain about the real bad things about the narrative, like making every character forget about Ellie's immunity, just because Drunkman didn't want to bother with that sub-plot anymore, so he flashed everyone's memory a la Men In Black.

So, ND and you should be happy that people complain about minor details (woke and stuff) instead of addressing the outrageous inconsistencies of a story that would never fly in a good book or TV show.
 
Pelao

Pelao

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I'll hand it to you, I thought this would be a FFVII Rebirth thread.
Most of those other games are still trash, though.
 
hououinkyouma00

hououinkyouma00

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ResetEraVetVIP said:
This trend HAS to stop, It’s detrimental to the video game industry as a whole. I recently read about how Alan Wake 2 barely turned a profit and it really confirmed that masterpieces get bad publicity and reputation for various stupid reasons. Alan Wake 2 isn’t alone. You have The Order 1886, Hellblade 2, Days Gone, TLOU 2 etc. These sorts games get treated like “normal” games when they are sometimes milestones in the industry and should be treated as such, no matter if you personally liked them or not.
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This a troll post right?
The Order 1886? Hellblade 2? Days Gone?

Listen I like The Order 1886 but it's 100% a 6/10 with potential to be an 8. Hellblade has some ridiculous graphics and very good acting, but it's boring as hell to play and you literally just press forward for nearly 30 minutes, and Days Gone is fine. It's not great, but it's not bad.

TLOU2 is the best game in that list but I still wouldn't call it a masterpiece. TLOU 1 is a masterpiece. TLOU 2 is a 8.5/10 that's too long. I don't even care about all the bullshit surrounding the game I just don't think it's this masterpiece a lot of people seem to think.
 
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CokeDiet

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ResetEraVetVIP said:
This trend HAS to stop, It’s detrimental to the video game industry as a whole. I recently read about how Alan Wake 2 barely turned a profit and it really confirmed that masterpieces get bad publicity and reputation for various stupid reasons. Alan Wake 2 isn’t alone. You have The Order 1886, Hellblade 2, Days Gone, TLOU 2 etc. These sorts games get treated like “normal” games when they are sometimes milestones in the industry and should be treated as such, no matter if you personally liked them or not.
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Are you pretty much telling us we have to say the games you like are good even if we don't like them?
 
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CokeDiet

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ResetEraVetVIP said:
No I’m saying games like Madden #2367284 and Call of Duty #4018337 aren’t getting bad publicity like this and its bad for the industry…
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Well I disagree with putting the last of us 2 in the list. From the time it came out till now people haven't shut up about it. I get it got criticism online for it's story and what can you do there? If people don't like it they can voice their opinion.

I didn't like the first one so didn't even form an opinion on TLOU2.

I will say, I had fun with the order 1886.

Also, people are always hanging shit on Madden and especially Call of Duty, don't know what they're review scores are because I don't pay attention to that but it's usually the defence of another game "at least it's not another call of duty"
 
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K' Dash

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ResetEraVetVIP said:
This trend HAS to stop, It’s detrimental to the video game industry as a whole. I recently read about how Alan Wake 2 barely turned a profit and it really confirmed that masterpieces get bad publicity and reputation for various stupid reasons. Alan Wake 2 isn’t alone. You have The Order 1886, Hellblade 2, Days Gone, TLOU 2 etc. These sorts games get treated like “normal” games when they are sometimes milestones in the industry and should be treated as such, no matter if you personally liked them or not.

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Meanwhile Madden #4738284 and Call of Duty #43773 are great and popular…bad bad trend.
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namenotfound

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Every single one of those games from pre-release to today, I have had no interest in buying and I did buy the first Alan Wake and Last of Us. Felt no interest to buy the sequels. Probably unpopular opinion, I played all the Uncharted games as they released but mainly because after Uncharted 2, it was the thing to be playing and at the time I cared about seeing the graphical showcases. Make an Uncharted 5, I have no interest in that. Whatever the milestones those games represent for the industry, tell us what those milestones are, I don't care for those milestones
 
Topher

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Outside of presentation, Alan Wake 2 was not all that great. Serviceable combat, unremarkable game design and - I'm sorry - weak-ass writing. The critics' we're generous but it still struggled - no conspiracy, Sam Lake just isn't the auteur some desperately want him to be.
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That's why I didn't bother with it. Just sounds like another Remedy game to me.
 
ResetEraVetVIP

ResetEraVetVIP

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Sakura said:
None of those games interest me OP, so yeah I ignore them.

If Madden and Call of Duty are popular it's because they know their audience and what they want. Not sure I see that as a bad thing.
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What do you mean know their audience? Can you not see the bigger picture with the video games industry? If AAAA passion projects are shot down and low effort annual installments and nonsense are profitable / popular, no one will develop AAAA passion project and blockbusters and will instead opt for low effort games that appeal to the masses and casuals. It’s already happening and has been happening with GAAS games and low effort cash grab games. We won’t get the Metal Gear Solids and Death Strandings of the world and will instead get Fortnite clone #473738…

Get it?
 
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