Bluekaveli
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The cool thing about Kane's theme is, the fact that it sounds like someone rising from the fire. Imagine a house being burned while you listen to the song.
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avengers23
Banned
WWE about to catch a beef over that Cena shirt: https://mobile.twitter.com/PabstBlueRibbon/status/736314459761713152
I don't understand, the shirts look nothing alike. Care to clue a Dutch guy in?
BFIB
Member
One looks like shit. One tastes like shit. You figure out which is which.
Bluekaveli
Member
Vader needs to accept that wrestling is fake and about entertaining the crowd, not pretending it's MMA. We already have MMA for MMA. Let wrestling be the fake ballet mock fights it's supposed to be.
BFIB
Member
I'd much rather see a classic Flair/Steamboat than the flippidy floppidy overselling that is put out today.
thank you vader
People need to accept that wrestling is supposed to be about making a fake fight look authentic and entertaining the crowd through a story, not a circus competition. We already have circuses for circuses. Let wrestling be the fake sports soap opera it's supposed to be.
Meanwhile Okabayashi/Zeus and Sekimoto/Miyahara happened days and people are out there declaring the wrestling is a dead thing.
Plus everyone just watching the gifs and not the whole damn match, don't wanna give Bushiroad that 999yen.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
Oh dear I read the replies.
And the state of AJPW's attendance vs NJPW's shows which is working with audiences and which isn't.
All modern wrestling is heading towards being watched strictly by GIFs m8.
why not both
Flair oversold everything by flipetyflopping all over the ring.
Real talk, those pulled punches are never going to look real and the shit they need to do to make it look real actually physically hurts them more than NFL Footballers manage to do so that is not going to happen anywhere than in company's that don't give a shit about performer's health.
Knowing the end result of concussions and self-medicating beat-up wrestlers has certainly killed my enjoyment of "real looking" fake fighting.
Here's the thing
Will Ospreay and Ricochet are going to end up even more banged up than the stiff fake punch guys because their knees are going to be completely shot at a young age. Look at Minoru Suzuki who took a bunch of real hits to the head, looks fine. Kobashi took a bunch of stiff hits to the head, looks fine.
Now look at Dynamite Kid, Rey Mysterio, and Great Muta. One's in a wheelchair, and the other two struggle to walk. Cauliflower ear > Liquid knees.
Because one overwhelms the other and continues to do so. Even the older guys in NJPW work extremely fast paced matches. I think it's why Naito's heel gimmick works so well. Because it's the opposite of everything NJPW has been for the last 15 years. People want non-stop spots and big crowd popping moves.
That's one thing about the old fucks in lucha libre being so relevant. The young kids can do the flips but the old fucks are going to slow that shit down and work a brawl or a technical match and invest the fans. One feels like fun filler, and the other feels like a match to me.
Strangelove77
Member
I was ok with it until they both flipped simultaneously at the end. That's where the line was crossed and it became too much. Shit's hilarious.
BJW seem to be doing pretty well off what they are doing.
This is the one time of year where the Jrs. are the focus of the promotion, the crowds are reacting very well to Naito on top judging by Dominion numbers and he isn't exactly a flippy flopper.
All media in general is being consumed in shorter and shorter forms, that's not just a wrestling thing.
Not really looking for an argument, so yeah, sure. You watch what you like, I will watch what I like and we're both good.
Miyahara vs Akebono and Shiozaki vs Akebono did more to build me as fans of theirs than any of their stuff with guys like Kotaro or Kanemaru because they built to me, they got me invested in seeing them defeat and overcome. If Akebono was moving around like Matt Morgan, or bumping for them like Corbin was bumping for Aries, it would have been a complete wash.
That's one reason why I think Minoru Suzuki is so fucking good. He can do both. He can drag things down and keep it interesting, playing the vile heel that builds up the face as the hero. Or he can keep up just as fast as the hero and makes him seem impossible to defeat before dragging the face back down to reality again.
That's one reason why I think Minoru Suzuki is so fucking good. He can do both. He can drag things down and keep it interesting, playing the vile heel that builds up the face as the hero. Or he can keep up just as fast as the hero and makes him seem impossible to defeat before dragging the face back down to reality again.
She's been in the indies for a while and does a lot of intergender wrestling. I think she used to be Human Tornado's valet for a while where they did a very classy and tasteful angle. She's currently the target of Joey Ryan leaching all of her heat to try to stay relevant until DDT can get him viral again.
Bluekaveli
Member
Why does king complain about the wrestlers wrestling around him at the commentary table when he was once a wrestler.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Nah. It's not a parody, its just appropriation.
Professor Beef
Banned
Flippydippy guys are going to have a hilariously short shelf life, so you might as well enjoy your crash TV while you can. Meanwhile all my faves are going to still have use of their legs 20 years from now.
Kane in 2036.
I tune out anytime someone talks about "where x is headed", without any additional context. Feels like something old people say. "I'm worried about where America is headed." Why? Because of more options and more diversity? Things you don't like are preventing you from enjoying things you do like?
Watching that gif made me eyeroll more times than both of those guys flipped combined. But I don't take it as an indication that wrestling is headed down the tubes.
Different types of wrestling can co-exist. Different types of wrestling have been co-existing for decades. In many cases, different types of wrestling have been co-existing in the same promotions on the same shows. I don't see that as being a big deal, and I don't see that as something that's going to destroy the type of wrestling I like.
Also, I'm getting into dangerous territory here, but the guy known for being a super heavyweight and doing a moonsault criticizing flips strikes me as slightly hypocritical.
Watching that gif made me eyeroll more times than both of those guys flipped combined. But I don't take it as an indication that wrestling is headed down the tubes.
Different types of wrestling can co-exist. Different types of wrestling have been co-existing for decades. In many cases, different types of wrestling have been co-existing in the same promotions on the same shows. I don't see that as being a big deal, and I don't see that as something that's going to destroy the type of wrestling I like.
Also, I'm getting into dangerous territory here, but the guy known for being a super heavyweight and doing a moonsault criticizing flips strikes me as slightly hypocritical.
Jesus Tozawa delivering two 4+ star matches in a few days for Dragon Gate's King of Gate tournament. I know I've said it a bunch before but this dude is going to tear up the CWC.
Also people judging that Ricochet/Ospreay match off gifs need to take an L and stop talking about imho friends
Also people judging that Ricochet/Ospreay match off gifs need to take an L and stop talking about imho friends
I'm sure he's just thinking of all the interest and money he can make by working the people out there who are just ready for him to explode all about it.
Cornette is a smart man.
FallingEdge
Member
yeah but your favs were never entertaining to begin with so we really lose in the end
shaowebb
Member
This.
thread today is dangerous, everybody out here just shooting
Professor Beef
Banned
Nocturnowl
Member
I was salty as fuck that Val still won that one.
You couldn't pay me enough to take that.
Tazz and his damn camera, he deserved the abuse from Beef.
So much character even his theme ignites the imagination.
Exactly, and that's why the fragile Daniel Bryan's only WWE title defense was against the enduring beast of WWE, they were trying to show him the way but it was too late.
slightconfuse
Banned
PBR SHOOTING
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FallingEdge
Member
get out of here scrub
lol Vader, playing his gimmick to the end
this thread -
Shoot alert
Future Foundation
Member
So many of those replies are just shitting on PBR. Someone fucking called them TNA. I mean, come on.
Nocturnowl
Member
Woah, what the heck, Golden Truth are finally a team?
The longest running storyline in WWE has completed its mission.
The longest running storyline in WWE has completed its mission.
The longest running story line is Cole and Owens.