I would listen if it was Scott working out what 24 divided by 7 actually is.
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May Wrasslin' |OT| Super Strong Style 16 - Thread Edition 2015
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Do you ask the same question for Netflix as well?
It's a new subscription promo, almost every subscription thing has them, it's fine.
They have a real dumb way of advertising it. They should just say "Sign up for 30 days free!*"
*Free months have no access to Summerslam, Royal Rumble or Wrestlemania events
I don't care, their acocunt checking method is so shit you can get a free month when you like.
I don't understand those who use The Network just for the constantly running stream and then complain there is nothing to watch. Are there really people who are ignoring the archive section and the huge catalogue of PPVs at your disposal? Or have those people simply seen every single WCW, ECW and PPV too?
Seen all the ECW PPVs at some point or another, get fucking Wrestlepalooza '97 up there now, seriously. Best wrestling event of the 90's.
Watched all of Nitro that's up there, although mostly skipped. Raw Attitude era has been good background noise since it's been up, but I'm almost done so then it's time to unsub again until more Nitro/Raw/ECW is up.
I started watching random PPVs at one point and remembered why I stopped watching around the time Cena switched to Raw. Not saying "LOLCENA", the tone of the program pretty much changed around the same time.
JesseEwiak
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Tone of the program changing doesn't mean there weren't dozens of great matches, including many of Cena's, since he became the top guy.
I agree, but when they show the recap video on the PPV filled with clips of Cole and King yelling about certain moments in the recap, I kinda get to the point where I think "ehhh, maybe I'll do something else".
Vengance 2005 for sure, great main event too... Then Christian gets booted to Smackdown and leaves for TNA and Jericho leaves and the main event tone for the rest of the year made me quit until ECW came back which them obviously made me quit again once Heyman was fired.
2005-2010 had a very pick and choose feel about it all. If you cherry pick you can find plenty of good stuff but there is also plenty of shit to sift through. 2006 was exceptionally rough bar maybe One Night Stand.
JesseEwiak
Member
'06 still had Cena-Edge at the Rumble, Angle-'Taker at No Way Out (which one could argue was the kickstart to the 'Taker as Superworker Era), RVD-Edge, Cena-Sabu (which is a dumb, but awesome match because it's John Cena versus Sabu in a match promoted by Vince McMahon Jr.), Edge-Cena at Summerslam, the Cena-Edge TLC match, Rated RKO-DX, and Hardyz-MNM at December to Dismember.
Plus, it had the Hogan-HBK set-up, which had Michaels trolling the Canadian audience with Bret Hart's music, which again, to me, is a top 10 heel moment in the WWE, especially the post-Attitude era.
I mean, it is a week year, but that's still half a dozen *** 1/2+ matches (even if you disagree with the results), which is nothing to sneeze at. The storylines ranged from not great to kinda terrible, but I'd put forth the idea that Cena-Edge is probably the best, or at the very least, a top 3 Cena-era feud.
Personally, I think the actual fallow years are the immediate right before Cena years, when there actually was a pretty big dip in business (and both Cena and Batista brought it back), the booking wasn't that great, and the storylines were pretty boring.
wasn't that in '05?
JesseEwiak
Member
You're right. My bad. OK, scratch that part. That is one bad part about the WWE looking the same all the time.
British Monsoon
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The Amazon wishlist stuff so many women wrestlers are involved in is just weird/creepy to me - people should support their favourites by buying merch, going to shows and purchasing DVDs, not by gifting them a freaking 3DS XL and a box full of games. Incidentally, I did see suggestions that WWE have apparently been passing on women wrestlers who are constantly shilling their wishlists, which wouldn't surprise me. It's hardly a professional way to conduct yourself, imo.
JesseEwiak
Member
Eh, there's a reason they're called marks. I'm really not going to complain if a wrestling making $100 a shot manages to get some stuff bought for them by fans. Yeah, it's weird and creepy, and if the WWE really is avoiding wrestler's who are heavily into this, then that's a reason not do it, but at the end of the day, wrestling is not a professional business and never has been, no matter how much corporate gloss the WWE tries to put on it.
FlammableD
Banned
Yeah, the whole wishlist/customs culture around women's indy wrestling is unfortunate.
BronsonLee
Member
Thanks bud!
I feel it fits my personality of being a goddamn idiot on here.Yeah, indy women's wrestling is getting really, really skeezy. Though to be honest, I can see why they do it. Bookings are few and far between, and if people want to buy you shit just to think they have a chance with you, go right ahead. I remember stories of a dude straight up paying for girl's flights so they could get booked in Europe, and another dude giving a girl Starbucks gift cards for some reason.
And customs are weird. Someone asked me to film them once and was explaining everything, and how some of the girls made like 2 grand in a weekend doing them. You're not really going to turn down that kind of money.
British Monsoon
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I guess you can't take the carny out of wrestling, no matter how big & corporate it becomes. I won't begrudge the wrestlers for angling for free stuff or making bank from doing customs, it just seems really seedy - everyone I've encountered who buys wrestlers stuff from their wishlists has definitely come across as creepy, which is why I'm surprised to see so many putting up with those types of fans or actively encouraging them.
FlammableD
Banned
Yeah, customs skeeve me the fuck out. I think it's the descriptions, it's so porny. I'd have more respect for it if it was straight up about what it is, because without it it's creepy guys jacking off over people doing their job.
like i said cherry picking matches can make any year sound incredible.
but watching RAW and Smackdown and the countless shitty PPV matches and mAin events very much overshadowed the good at the time. its only in hindsight and being able to just sift out the good stuff can you turn around and say 2006 was good.
No way out was a bland boring show until Angle vs Taker and then Angle left and the main event scene became Booker T vs JBL
BronsonLee
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Yeah, it's really goddamn weird. I wouldn't want people doing the creep to me, but maybe the girls who encourage it know how to handle them better than me.
Yeah, customs are a real weird bird. Their rise in the past few years is...odd to me. Women's wrestling can skew that way, but customs basically take all semblance of story and competition out of it. It's just confusing.
JesseEwiak
Member
Eh, it's pretty simple. You deal with a level of creepiness when that creepiness is paying your cell phone bill or making it so you can visit Mom or go to your brother's wedding.
Well, SHIMMER is a great promotion, with great matches, for example, but from everything I've heard, their audience is shall we say, not totally there for the fine wrestling product.
That's always been a part of indy wrestling since the broadband boom or hell, even before that - I mean, there's those gifs people like to quote all the time of Seth Rollins doing weird porn-y wrestling as well.
The rise is pretty easy to explain. Easier to distribute, easier to create, easier to connect, and so on. You don't have to find a wrestler's MySpace or email address, and get sent a burnt DVD-R through the mail. You request whatever, and you get a file to download, easy peasy. It's the same reason why porn is getting more explicit and diversified. Because it's easier to find your fetish.
FlammableD
Banned
I hope so. It was heartening to see a few people call out one of the top level creeps earlier this year when he was talking shit.
Then again, there was a podcast that went up after the last SHIMMER tapings complaining about some of the behaviour at the show and at the after party, which basically ended with "Is it going to take a rape for something to get done about this"
Side note, the Clips4Sale jokes are one of my favourite bits of the AE Podcast lately.
FindingGreedo
Member
Going to show my ignorance of wrestling parlance here and say "Customs?" one of the few terms I've just not come across before, I've quoted you Boots as quite frankly from what I've seen your knowledge of wrestling in general is staggering to me.
BronsonLee
Member
Aye, definitely true. I can respect the hustle. And cringe at the same time, though.
I've heard some real damn horror stories about SHIMMER after parties. I saw one video once and it's basically like I am at clubs, freaking terrified and awkward. Nopenopenope. I'd rather leap into lava than deal with that mess.
I suppose the convenience does help. One thing that does help too (I suppose) is these companies partnering with other wrestling companies, so they can get more name talent and whatnot. Basically, tldr; customs make bank, but they confuse the fuck out of me
Edit: Oh god Greedo don't look up customs nonononono
JesseEwiak
Member
So you don't have to dip yourself into the muck we've all walked into accidentally and had to block out, customs are basically "matches" that people pay for, so they have the privilege of planning out the "spots" in the match. When the people in the match are two attractive people, well, you figure it out from there.
FlammableD
Banned
Investigate at your risk (i.e. when people aren't around)
www.slamminladies.com
That's the respectable end of things.
I don't want to look into that. The podcast I was talking about had a story from the afterparty where a wrestler was talking to a fan, then someone asked her to do a pre arranged interview. She starts to head off and the fan literally grabs her by the arm and says "Where are you going?". She explains and the fan lets go and says "Oh, that's fine dear".
FindingGreedo
Member
Yeesh that's creepy as fuck. Thankfully I'm not at home right now so I asked rather than delve into the seedy underbelly of what's already a fairly seedy underbelly-ish type place.
Obliged for the education folks!
I'll...err..just note this down for research purposes later...yeah...research.
BronsonLee
Member
Jesus, what a bad time that was. Imagine looking for shit like custom made wrestling figures and somehow falling down -that- rabbit hole
FindingGreedo
Member
Indeed Friday! Let's get back less creepy things. For example in a year or two how would you feel about Big E embarking on a Hall of Pain style rampage?
I guess it does stroke the ego to know people masturbate to you. So in that sense, I guess you can reason it away as long as you don't see the person that's doing it.
Now, Sunny crawling into a bed and cuddling with these guys, that's where I just can't find any reason. No doubt she's getting poked in the back and has to pretend to be into these lads. You're really on rock bottom if you're willing to go that far for money.
Still customs, while weird, are pretty much in the same vain as cam shows, I suppose. As long as the person doing the show can't see the person on the other end, you can at least imagine it being someone hot that's into you, I guess.
I just remembered Sunny did Skype calls too. Oh boy.
JesseEwiak
Member
Or, "hey, a cool match involving female wrestler x I haven't seen - wait, this seems kind of weird - err, umm - this headscissors is lasting - ohhhhhhh..."
Mr. Luchador
Member
Well if anyone wants to spoil me... (since GAF Secret Santa no showed on me)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/registry/wishlist/330PSFIA7AMBA
http://www.amazon.co.uk/registry/wishlist/31LXSJX2W4JDB
http://www.amazon.co.uk/registry/wishlist/330PSFIA7AMBA
http://www.amazon.co.uk/registry/wishlist/31LXSJX2W4JDB
FindingGreedo
Member
I'll make sure not to come back on after going drinking tonight or I'll be all "What the hell he seems like a nice guy!" and do my normal magic trick of turning alcohol into regret.
Get Odin Sphere off the PS3 PSN store as it removed the slow down and it's the same great game.
Mr. Luchador
Member
I'll be the best one night of regret you'll ever have.
Nice, I'll keep an eye out for it in a sale. Thanks!
Carnby
Member
Two months in a row?
Netflix has a free month whenever you sign up as a new subscriber 12 months a year is the point. WWE have done the same, but do it in a way that you can't get Wrestlemania or the Rumble for free.
I honestly hoped that the short-lived Big E > Henry tag team carried on for longer than it did. E has all the tools to split some wigs once New Day is broken up.
I've just realised - if they'd kept the Wyatts and the Shield together, then with New Day and a little more work with others they could've resurrected Gang Rulez...
You realise your wish list link isn't actually giving people an option to buy stuff for you, right? Only to put it in their own basket.
12 months in a row, year after year!
It definitely was the title that became a test for younger guys, like those memorable Jack Swagger and CM Punk runs by cashing in the MitB. Allowed guys like Edge and Jeff Hardy at least get involved into the main event where in general they may have never had the chance going up against the Triple H's and Cena's in a packed unified roster. Though that's just the benefit of the brand split. Triple H in 2008-2009 was the worst. Rarely lost, and was always in the title picture.
Mr. Luchador
Member
You realise your wish list link isn't actually giving people an option to buy stuff for you, right? Only to put it in their own basket.
Really? haha dammit. I've never used wishlists before, so no idea what I'm suppose to do... but thanks for trying!
British Monsoon
Member
I wish Ibushi would tone it down a bit, lol. Gonna suck if he gets injured again before the G1.
At best he had competent (Swagger vs Evan Bourne at Capitol Punishment) matches that severed their purpose and nothing more or "he shows some potential, I look forward to what he can do someday" moments that shows he could have for all of 2009. Everything else was bad, filler, forced onto a card, or simply forgettable.
Now to give credit however, he did a good job at making a lot of people look decent or strong, be it Christian on his return or MVP and recently Rusev early on, before it just kept repeating itself.
I do think he could give a fantastic singles match with a focus on pure chain wrestling, something to play up the amateur skills he has until things go wrong and he cheats, alongside that goofy smile of his when he thinks he is getting away with it though. Actually, maybe not a PPV match for that, but rather a NXT takeover instead.
I rather liked his "FIVE!" Vader style push of NXT he had, and something along those lines of that amongst the lower to mid-card would be something I could enjoy watching. He could even force someone in a match, threaten to hurt them backstage, until they give him another match if he could only get a three count in a previous one.
He is a strong man, he can scream and rant a lot, and I would find it believable in this suspension of disbelief that he could do a "hall of pain". However seeing all this twitter and instagram showings, I think he would be far more entertaining if he did the Undertaker's "big evil" days of demanding respect and just beating down people who don't give it. Only unlike Undertaker it's not about how long he's been around, but rather when someone says something bad about that little pony toy Big E has or the cheesy romance songs he actually likes.
FindingGreedo
Member
Oh man I was away from wrestling when Big E and Henry tagged, you any idea when it happened? I'd love to check that out.
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