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May Wrasslin' |OT| Super Strong Style 16 - Thread Edition 2015
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How dare we treat this like a TV show and discuss ratings like they do in every other TV show thread on GAF as if it has some bearing on how popular a TV show is and how long TV channels want keep it on air due to it's influence on ad revenue...
Stupid us.
Roland_Gunner
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No mention of Lucha Undergound during today's Univision upfront conference. All the sad smileys....
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Deleted member 47027
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TV ratings don't really matter. They're an increasingly less and less accurate portrayal as their sample size keeps shrinking.
I think you have to be somewhat delusional to not see the obvious parallels between Hogan's character and Cena's character
Sweeney Tom
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Now we know you're not the real Vince
Cena open challenge continues to be the best part of the show.
Another solid Cena open challenge.
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Deleted member 47027
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I feel there are VERY few similarities between their characters. Every time a new star was "born" in WWE it was a huge departure between their last big star. From Sammartino to Hogan, from Hogan to Stone Cold, from Stone Cold to Cena, they're all very different characters.
Stone Cold and Cena are basically night and day to each other. But Stone Cold was also night and day to Hogan. Cena is pretty much Hogan with a 21st century flavor to it. Hustle / Loyalty / Respect is the new "say your prayers and eat your vitamins", Cenation is Neo Hulkamania, they both act laid back and "cool" all the time until things get serious and they turn into their intense versions (Hogan did this much better). I'd throw in that they both have the "five moves of doom" thing going on but that's more of a WWE issue than specifically those two guys.
At least Hogan was kind enough to shill the same t-shirt for most of his career.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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I think anybody would flop right now, honestly. WWE's ratings have been on a general decline for several years, albeit with a few upward spikes here and there, and while Wrestlemania 31 was awesome, it didn't have much of an "Oh, man, gotta watch tomorrow, thing are looking up" quality like WM30 had. Rollins is doing about as good as anybody could, performance-wise, but a chickenshit heel and paper champion, even a well-done and high-performing one, is not going to get people to tune in, especially when there's no sign of his comeuppance coming up anytime soon, or even a credible regularly-appearing contender for that role. The whole product just feels so anomic - what's the story? What's the hook? What is the show progressing toward from week to week? WWE's reached this place where everything just feels like a holding pattern in between big events, rather than being interesting on its own. There are high spots - heel New Day, John Cena having quality matches with mid-carders every week - but the whole thing is just so sterile and lifeless, like nobody really wants to be there and is just collecting a paycheck.
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i'd deny Hogan was ever cool and calm and collected. Very few instances where he wasn't on 90-mph or higher.
also the reason people were so reticent to get behind Roman's push - no generational/character/attitude shift from one face of the company to another
I think the week by week discussion of ratings is a bit silly, they need to be viewed over the course of months rather than from Monday to Monday
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Honestly that next big figurehead is Lesnar. He's a big shift from Cena, a huge shift not unlike before. He's legitimate, he CAN kick peoples' asses and he's kind of a shithead. I think that's a big enough shift to carry the company if you buy into the idea that the person who carries WWE is always a big departure to previous.
Now Bryan would be perfect post-Brock, as that'd be a huge shift, but...well, maybe he'll be feeling better in 6 years.
I disagree in the sense that WWE relies heavily on TV income and their channel positioning. Not just for advertisement, but also for interest in their product, their Network subscriptions, their standing with Wall Street. Right now, their ratings are still at a point where it elevates USA Network to justify the cost. But if they keep dropping, when there are still shows which ratings actually increase, it's a worrying trend.
hangin and bangin/10
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
So you're saying that if Vince does some how go blind, Kevin Owens has a chance?
He's certainly seem to got the politicking part down.
slightconfuse
Banned
First ROH/New Japan show tonight. Hope there is a quick turn around
Brock would be perfect....if he was doing Raw on even a bi monthly basis. Although that near shoot style where the figurehead is presented as a legitimate sporting powerhouse is definitely where I see a lot of money.
eh its all moot really, nothing of significance will change until things start getting really bad Network and ratings side (and even then, probably back to Cena at the top as a reaction) or if well....you know Vince stops doing his thing.
Sibersk Esto
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FallingEdge
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heh, no iPPV for the ROH show tonight. Was looking forward to Cole vs Styles.
Sweeney Tom
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Cody Hall joining the force too
FallingEdge
Member
the dood getting hit in the face?
edit: saw the comparison pic, I thought Mir was bigger for some reason.
no argument from me
You're not wrong here. I'd like to dig it up but I remember saying a long ass time ago that Cena would be perfect with a midcard belt.
That's just odd though, saying that Cena is the best thing on Raw.
Cena in 2015.
That's what happens when no Brock
Hard to argue against.
I might say the Brass Ring Club and New Day matches are close second.
blackaroni
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Hasn't the second hour of Raw always been rated higher than the rest of the show?
slightconfuse
Banned
To put the maywether fight in perspective
That's a lot of disappointed customers.
Boxing simply has more casual fans than MMA and wrestling.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Yep the 2nd hour is usually the highest then there is a drop in the 3rd hour. The show needs to be 2 hours anyway and its hard to judge what draws because the quarter hours don't exist anymore.
All the match types that were removed in WWE 2k15 have been restored. Even the match maker conditions are still in the game and a program is out that let's you change them, even if they unfortunately paid for right now.
Even something as obscure as a handicap tornado first blood match is now re-selectable.
Even something as obscure as a handicap tornado first blood match is now re-selectable.
consoles or PC?
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