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McConnell and GOP Senators desperately working on a new "Skinny Repeal" for the ACA
- Thread starter balladofwindfishes
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sunshine and gasoline
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People still believing in McCain...lmao
The CBO says repealing the individual mandate will save $416 billion from 2018 to 2026. Mostly because fewer people will choose to enroll in Medicaid.
https://www.cbo.gov/budget-options/2016/52232
https://www.cbo.gov/budget-options/2016/52232
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Someone please show this to McCain.
Hmm I guess this means it can be done via reconciliation. Fuck.
GoldenEye 007
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Edit: Mistaken.
It certainly is interesting. It's the least evil out of all of the proposals.
FIREKNIGHT2029
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Wow!
Expected. It's the skinny repeal that's expected to pass. The rest is theater.
BoogieWoogie
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Don't they need to wait for the CBO score to vote for Skinny Repeal? It hasn't even been written yet!
Some Republican Senators are now abandoning ship on that and moving to Graham-Cassidy which is even skinnier. We'll see.
Which is why it'll fail.
Netherscourge
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BoogieWoogie
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What is the Graham-Cassidy bill? Haven't seen this one.
Netherscourge
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How the hell can they vote for a bill that hasn't even been written yet?
How is that even legal?
RumblingRosco
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I doubt the CBO has either.
But that's the problem: Skinny isn't enough for guys like Rand Paul. And to get him on board, you lose folks like Collins.
And Rand Paul is a man who gives zero fucks about what folks say about him.
ThLunarian
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I think when he said 'moving on to Skinny Repeal,' he probably means that it's time to start the process of getting it scored and vetted so that it can be voted on. He didn't mean they're moving to vote on it today.
At least I hope that's the case
Yeah. I assumed it needed 60 without a score?
Rand supports skinny repeal.
https://twitter.com/dylanlscott/status/890308270614818818
Lol at expecting any principle from Rand Paul in 2017.
GoldenEye 007
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It's already been previously scored. 20% premium increase and a savings of $416 billion over 10 years.
Accomplishes nothing as far as making room for taxes or other budget items.
Netherscourge
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Was that the House bill?
TheCochese
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20% for the exchanges or everyone?
Damn it Paul! That's what I get for relying on him to be an obstructionist asshole all the time.
GoldenEye 007
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I think exchanges. Which could be mitigated by subsidies.
And also 43 million off insurance over 10 years.
https://www.cbo.gov/budget-options/2016/52232
Netherscourge
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Yesterday, Rand Paul was attacking Jeff Sessions on CNN for picking on poor people.
Today, Rand Paul votes to take away healthcare from poor people.
Today, Rand Paul votes to take away healthcare from poor people.
Seriously, these votes aren't worth getting excited over. It's all theatrics and expected fails. Save the gifs for the Skinny repeal, that is what all this nonsense is leading up towards. That is the real fight.
It basically allows states to adjust the tax penalty that people who opt out of the individual mandate must pay.
They voted on BCRA without a CBO score, so who the hell knows.
balladofwindfishes
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Yes, but they voted with the BCRA needing 60 votes, so the CBO score wouldn't matter
balladofwindfishes
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CBO report is out and it's a doozy
Not really seeing how this hits 50 with 20% increases in premiums and 16 million off their insurance by next year
Not really seeing how this hits 50 with 20% increases in premiums and 16 million off their insurance by next year
He talks a big game but almost always votes the party line. He's only notable in that his rhetoric is almost the complete opposite of his voting record. The least principled Senator since his dad.
PhoncipleBone
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Fuck the little Hobbit. I have had to work a few events where he comes to do book signings, and the fucking loons show up wanting copies of the constitution signed by him. It requires so much self restraint not to start asking questions of everyone, including Rand Paul himself.
Even that, not really. "Skinny" repeal is just a device to get into conference committee, where they will once again try to do the thing neither house has been able to do to this point: create a plan that everybody can agree on. Then both houses have to vote on that.
So what are the chances this dies in the House?
balladofwindfishes
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At this point, it might not even make it out of the senate. It kind of fell apart over the last few hours once the CBO report came out
It quickly went from "they absolutely have 50 votes now" to "this is starting to fall about." I guess 16 million off insurance in an election year is a hard pill to swallow
Oh, and this doesn't even qualify for reconciliation as it is now, so yea, they have some problems