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This is being addressed, and soon. I can't say any more without egregiously breaking the NDA.
No. All the founders mechs are the base variants of the mech itself.
Damn that sucks.
will be more fun when they add more assaults to the mix
daishi vs atlas !
I noticed that theres a button for centering torso to legs but not the other way around
or am I missing something?
Exactly, and it's actually easier to stay alive in a Jenner than in an Atlas since you can avoid getting in a situation where you'd die in the first place. Assaults don't have that luxury and just have to walk forward and make the other team die first. Getting the actual kills in a light mech is tougher due to your limited weaponry, but your speed will give you plenty of opportunities that a slow mech would miss out on. Plus it's much easier to hit the rear armor when you have mobility - dragons, catapults and awesomes can run pretty fast with a 400XL but they still turn like bricks.
Right now collisions are actually the most deadly thing to lights, and your survival rate improves massively once you can pilot well enough to avoid them. But once in a while that inattentive friendly Commando will slam into you from the side and then you'll get blown to hell by an Awesome or whatever. They're also planning on adding knockdowns to heavy ballistic weapons, but until they improve the netcode a bit trying to hit a tiny 140kph target with an AC20 is a waste of ammo anyways.
Yeah, my win-loss is 2 to 1 right now so I only need to average 1 jenner kill per match to get a 3/1 k/d. I'm currently at just under 4/1 which means that other people must be getting better because it used to be 5/1.
I mean, it's beta and there's minimal training documentation, I still see people alpha-striking with every shot because they havn't worked out how to unlink their weapons and honestly, the Atlas is a horrible starting mech in terms of learning the game.
BattleMonkey
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Been playing Jenner lately alot and yup, I'm constantly surviving matches. It's just so much easier to evade the enemies and get away when stuff gets bad, especially because many matches are so heavy on Assault mechs currently. But light mechs are a blast to play unlike the old mechwarrior titles where they were essentially useless.
that and people love to overheat for some reason
Fallout-NL
Member
Is this worth 30$ right now, or should I just wait for the release?
That and you definetly shouldn't choose a Founder's mech before you know how each weight-class handles etc. Those with MW experience can make reasonable predictions how they handle and what they might like.
Didn't someone say they hated their Atlas?
Fallout-NL
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Well I've been into Mechwarrior since MW2mercs, but it sounds like waiting a little while wouldn't hurt.
TangoAlphaLima
Member
Isn't there some benefit to picking the Atlas as your starting mech, though, since it's presumably the most expensive? So, say you want both a Jenner and an Atlas, wouldn't it make sense to pick the Atlas as your starting mech, then slog through enough games in it to earn enough to buy a Jenner?
Granted, if you truly hate the Atlas and never want to play it, that wouldn't be the best choice, but if you're just looking to build a large stable of mechs, it seems like a reasonable way to go about it.
Obviously this reasoning doesn't apply to choosing a Founders mech, since those are unique, so if you can only pick one, you don't want to waste your pick on a mech you aren't terribly fond of.
Granted, if you truly hate the Atlas and never want to play it, that wouldn't be the best choice, but if you're just looking to build a large stable of mechs, it seems like a reasonable way to go about it.
Obviously this reasoning doesn't apply to choosing a Founders mech, since those are unique, so if you can only pick one, you don't want to waste your pick on a mech you aren't terribly fond of.
Well, an Atlas costs considerably more to repair than a Jenner...
Just remember the game has certain focus on role as well, the Atlas is intended to be used in a very different way from the Jenner. You need quite different skills for different mechs, heavier mechs are usually more demanding when it comes to marksmanship and heat management, whereas lighter mechs usually demand better piloting skills, good knowledge of maps etc.
Me, i wouldn't recommend an Atlas for beginners regardless of what they want to do now or later.
Medium is a good bet for beginners as they usually have good blend of attributes, find out what you like and start specializing.
Also, unofficial IS news:
Today, 13th of August 3049, the Inner Sphere forces have made their first contact with the invading Clan forces on The Rock (somewhere in the Periphery). Phelan Kell of the Kell Hounds mercenary unit has been captured. This is where the Clan Omnimech Mad Cat (Timber Wolf) was first seen.
Not a fan of the Cent but you can make them fast and mean if you like SRMs.
Current mechs are Jenner, Commando, Centurion, Hunchback, Catapult, Dragon, Awesome, and Atlas.
Trebuchet isn't in yet. Forums seem to think the Raven will be in next but I don't think it will until ECM is ready. I'm REALLY looking forward to the Cataphract.
Okay, how is Commando then?
While i like the Raven, i kinda like how the Commando looks in this game and probably will be piloting it as my light mech.
BattleMonkey
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Everyone takes Jenner over Commandos. Commandos are rarely seen
People probably just look at weight (35 tons vs 25 tons).
I can see myself using a Commando with various electronics and an ER Large Laser as a spotter/scout/support sniper. Screw jumpjets, they'll never see me before the massive missiles salvos blow them up.
NovemberMike
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It's actually kind of funny how this is happening since the Awesome and the Hunchback 4P are both better.
BattleMonkey
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The founder program didn't help, so many people took the Atlas choice
I like the commando more. Works better for me.
Well it makes sense to pick the most expensive one.
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NovemberMike
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Actually, the best mech is the bowling ball Dragon. 400xl engine and maybe some small lasers or whatever. You can run straight through anything that isn't an Atlas, and if you hit an Atlas you both go down.
Well, the money will be more important in the "final" game, no?
Commando costs 2/3rds of Jenner's price, so i assume Commando's repairs are also chaper.
Commando with Endo-Steel and XL-engine (maybe with slightly higher rating to push the speed up to 120km/h or so) and Ferro-Fibrous armor to save weight, armament should be mix of lasers, pulse lasers and SRMs for striker, alternatively LRMs and an ER Large Laser for long range support. Either one should be effective in good hands, and still cheaper than equivalent Jenner (right?).
Due to the hardpoint restrictions, the Founder's Atlas is really an energy/missile boat or all-rounder which are the loadouts I have the least fun I have playing in MWO. You only have one slot for ballistic weapons and your arms can only do energy so your targeting styles will be different which isn't too nice if you decide to mix up your weapon types. You're the slowest and don't really excel in any role aside from getting shot at repeatedly. The Hunchback and Catapult are better and faster with similar firepower while the Awesome is way better at managing heat. Overheating Atlases that hunch over are the easiest targets on the map, and you see them in every game.
Yeah Commando desperately needs ECM suite. That being said, Raven might be better for that too.
I like using mine for sneak attacks by taking the side roads and hitting the enemy lance from the back while they're distracted by the main lance. I loaded mine out with an AC20, two SRm6s and three medium pulse lasers. Will probably put in an XL engine to speed it up later.
I like using mine for sneak attacks by taking the side roads and hitting the enemy lance from the back while they're distracted by the main lance. I loaded mine out with an AC20, two SRm6s and three medium pulse lasers. Will probably put in an XL engine to speed it up later.
It works but it's really lame to be on the receiving end, and they WILL be fixing it. Although it's funny watching unscrupulous Dragon pilots try to ram my 350~400XL Catapult while I just circle them and blow their side torso off.
Raven is desinged to carry a good load of electronics: ECM, BAP, Narc and TAG. Give a team a few missile boat Catapults and you're all set...
That said, any mech can take Raven's role with similar suite of electronics, if it is Commando it will have to sacrifce some weapons though.
EDIT ugh, Raven is not cheap. 5.7 million C-Bills... (canonically, likely in MWO as well?)
EDIT any word if we're getting Inferno ammo for SRMs and LRMs for MWO?
Because i really want to make a Commando equipped with a pair of Flamers and Inferno-equipped SRMs!
Raven shows up in 3039 record sheets, so it could show up in MWO. It has not been confirmed OR announced yet, so don't hold your breath. There are LOTS of mechs which _could_ be in MWO, but very few currently are.
BattleMonkey
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They previewed the Raven a quite a while ago for MWO
Actually, it has been announced already.
Decided to look at some of the other Battletech mechs that exist and damn, there is a whole ton of these.
I want this one in the game.
And whatever the hell this thing is I want too.
The game does need more quad legged mechs.
The mech you linked (for everyone elses benefit) is the Clan Omen heavy mech. It was introduced in the 3085 technical readout... so don't expect to see it anytime soon!
The second mech you linked is the Thunder Stallion, introduced in 2850. There's a reason quad-legged mechs aren't very popular. They're generally slow and heavy. I don't think any quads have showed up in other mechwarrior games, and I wouldn't expect any to show up here.
Lore-wise, they're usually encountered as Agro-mechs, used to cut down forests and such.
As for mechs I personally want to see, I'd put forward:
Valkyrie - doesn't even have to have VTOL mode. Just classic awesome.
Warhammer - Mmmmmmmmmm so chunky, so awesome.
Shadow Hawk - Would be a good medium C&C mech
BattleMonkey
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Bunch of quads were used during the succession wars. Liao deployed alot of the Spiders and such
Thanks.
If the Trebuchet was in, I'd probably have bought a pack already. That concept artwork is awesome, and 50-ton long range support is my type of gig.
Lol, I just noticed that its fly is open.
oktarb
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I've played maybe 20 games and I still can't figure out how to change my Weapon groups. Crazy I know but everything I do with the control button and arrow keys never seems to have any effect.
Also to the matches seem pretty short to you guys? Start up and 10 minutes later its all over. Are they meant to be this quick?
Also to the matches seem pretty short to you guys? Start up and 10 minutes later its all over. Are they meant to be this quick?
Try changing your brightness/contrast/gamma settings so that the different selected/colored weapon groups will be more visible. Also note that left mouse button doesn't actually default to firing weapon group 1, but the currently selected weapon group instead.
oktarb
Member
I can see everything clearly. I can move the selection bar up and down and through the numbers but I can't change anything. They are always group in 1. I feel like a retard because it should be that hard.
faulty_fork
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Are you using the right control button, the one next to your arrow keys?
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