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neojubei · Mar 6, 2009

Kagari said:
He's too busy buying Eidos shares.

I dont know why but I read this as "He's too busy buying idiot shares". lol

AranhaHunter said:
I agree but I don't know if SO4 will have big sales on PS3 if it comes a year later, how did Eternal Sonata sell on PS3 compared to the 360?

I still expect both SO4 and TOV to come out on PS3, at least in Japan.

Same here. Square and Namco knows they can repackage the game and port it to the PS3.

I fully expect FFXIII to come out for the 360 in Japan but probably as the international edition that no one will buy because everyone will probably buy the ps3 version.

gantz85 · Mar 6, 2009

Link said:
Tomorrow.

Apparently Famitsu.com is saying that RE5 is selling in "near equal" numbers for PS3 and 360.. That's extremely surprising to me. I'm excited to see how the numbers work out

gantz85 · Mar 6, 2009

neojubei said:
I fully expect FFXIII to come out for the 360 in Japan but probably as the international edition that no one will buy because everyone will probably buy the ps3 version.

Then it wouldn't come out, if nobody would buy it. It still takes work to produce a JP version.

Anyways, I'm not sure if I'm convinced that FFXIII is PS3-only for Japan. The Microsoft people are probably still trying to move Squeenix about this but Sony probably are pulling all their weight possible to keep it as a JP exclusive.

It's amazing how much developers have thrown their games onto the 360 when it could have probably reached about double the unit sales if it were at least multiplatform. You can argue that developing for the PS3 is expensive but bombing on the 360 in JP is also expensive. Instead what we have now is a REALLY interesting market situation where 360 is carrying key titles from key developers but still not anywhere near the PS3. SO4, ToV and LR being 360 exclusives was unimaginable a few years prior but Microsoft's moneyhats has worked its magic.

I'm now hoping that either the moneyhat contracts were time-based exclusives or that the market landscape will shape itself to the extent where developers are no longer willing to accept moneyhats to exclude a PS3 version for simultaneous release. The performance of key PS3 titles like Yakuza 3 and the obvious disappointing performance of key 360 titles like SO4 are helping to push that, and the enlarged PS3 install base from RE5 will help that as well. FFXIII may have the largest effect, but that's still some ways ahead.

This generation is AH MAY ZING

neojubei · Mar 6, 2009

I hope media create can track the sales of the FF13demobundle I like to see how many copies of advent children will sell.

I wonder if microsft have anything "planned" for April in Japan.

jj984jj · Mar 6, 2009

gantz85 said:
Apparently Famitsu.com is saying that RE5 is selling in "near equal" numbers for PS3 and 360.. That's extremely surprising to me. I'm excited to see how the numbers work out

Yeah they did, if you ignore the other reports:

The third report is from the absolutely massive Yodobashi Camera in Akihabara (definitely my favorite electronics shop in Tokyo). The site actually refers to this as the "video game mecca."

Here, there were 8 people in line by 8:30, an hour before opening time, and all were waiting to purchase the PS3 Resident Evil 5 bundle. Ten minutes into sales, and the shop had sold a total of 30 hardware bundles, at a ratio of 3 to 1 in favor of the PS3. Looking at just software, the PS3 version was also selling better.

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blogs/anoop/2009/03/05/re5_launch_pics/

A simultaneous launch multiplat game will never sell equally on the PS3 and 360 in Japan.

Flying_Phoenix · Mar 6, 2009

schuelma said:
PS3 36,513
DSi 35,827
PSP 35,588
Wii 17,876
Xbox 360 11,795
DS Lite 11,774
PS2 5,099

One says the Wii has significantly decreased, the other says it has significantly increased, this one says it has stayed the same. :lol

But damn talk about low hardware sales throughout. All consoles (but the PS3 for this week for obvious reasons) are doing far worse then they have previously. It only seems like the 360 has made progress. (Didn't I say this last week too?)

Kagari · Mar 6, 2009

neojubei said:
I hope media create can track the sales of the FF13demobundle I like to see how many copies of advent children will sell.

I wonder if microsft have anything "planned" for April in Japan.

If RE Degeneration can do 1.5 million, I can only imagine how well Advent Children Complete will do.

Pachael · Mar 6, 2009

gantz85 said:
Then it wouldn't come out, if nobody would buy it. It still takes work to produce a JP version.

Anyways, I'm not sure if I'm convinced that FFXIII is PS3-only for Japan. The Microsoft people are probably still trying to move Squeenix about this but Sony probably are pulling all their weight possible to keep it as a JP exclusive.

It's amazing how much developers have thrown their games onto the 360 when it could have probably reached about double the unit sales if it were at least multiplatform. You can argue that developing for the PS3 is expensive but bombing on the 360 in JP is also expensive. Instead what we have now is a REALLY interesting market situation where 360 is carrying key titles from key developers but still not anywhere near the PS3. SO4, ToV and LR being 360 exclusives was unimaginable a few years prior but Microsoft's moneyhats has worked its magic.

I'm now hoping that either the moneyhat contracts were time-based exclusives or that the market landscape will shape itself to the extent where developers are no longer willing to accept moneyhats to exclude a PS3 version for simultaneous release. The performance of key PS3 titles like Yakuza 3 and the obvious disappointing performance of key 360 titles like SO4 are helping to push that, and the enlarged PS3 install base from RE5 will help that as well. FFXIII may have the largest effect, but that's still some ways ahead.

This generation is AH MAY ZING

Sony has yet to release their magnum opus: GT5. Hi Polyphony!

markatisu · Mar 6, 2009

Flying_Phoenix said:
One says the Wii has significantly decreased, the other says it has significantly increased, this one says it has stayed the same. :lol

I thought both trackers showed a positive increase, how was last week compared to this week a significant decrease?

One showed 22, another showed 17 but last week the lowest was about 16k

Didnt we throw out the 12k as a typo of wrong number?

Tideas · Mar 6, 2009

Pachael said:
Sony has yet to release their magnum opus: GT5. Hi Polyphony!

I don't think the GT franchise is as strong in japan as it used to be when GT3 was released. I think it's gotten stronger in Europe, weaker in japan, and same in NA

donny2112 · Mar 6, 2009

The PS3 beat the Wii for the month of February going by the NPD-defined month. 87,400 to 76,277.

Also for PS3, again using NPD-defined months, Nov-08 = Jan-09 = Feb-09, while for Wii, Feb-09 < Jan-09 < Nov-08.

AranhaHunter · Mar 6, 2009

Tideas said:
I don't think the GT franchise is as strong in japan as it used to be when GT3 was released. I think it's gotten stronger in Europe, weaker in japan, and same in NA

What makes you say that?

Link · Mar 6, 2009

Tideas said:
I don't think the GT franchise is as strong in japan as it used to be when GT3 was released. I think it's gotten stronger in Europe, weaker in japan, and same in NA

GT is weaker in the US these days, too. GT4 sold a lot less than GT3 did.

Flying_Phoenix · Mar 6, 2009

markatisu said:
Didnt we throw out the 12k as a typo of wrong number?

It was a typo? Must have missed that part.

donny2112 · Mar 6, 2009

Tideas said:
I don't think the GT franchise is as strong in japan as it used to be when GT3 was released.

PantherLotus · Mar 6, 2009

31. [NDS] Uchida Yasuou Mystery: Meitantei Senken Mitsuhiko Series... (D3 Publisher)
32. [PS2] Kidou Senshi Gundam: Giren no Yabou - Axis no Kyoui V (Namco Bandai)
33. [PSP] Idolmaster SP: Wandering Star (Namco Bandai)
34. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven (Level 5)
35. [NDS] Tongariboushi and the 365 Days of Magic (Konami)
36. [PSP] Idolmaster SP: Missing Moon (Namco Bandai)
37. [NDS] Kirby Super Star Ultra (Nintendo)
38. [PSP] Kidou Senshi Gundam: Giren no Yabou - Axis no Kyoui V (Namco Bandai)
39. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo)
40. [WII] Animal Crossing: City Folk (Nintendo)
41. [PS2] Sacred Blaze (Flight Plan)
42. [NDS] Chou Gekijouban Keroro Gunsou: Gekishin Dragon Warriors de Arimasu! (Namco Bandai)
43. [NDS] DS Style: LEC (Square Enix)
44. [PSP] Tenchu 4 PSP (From Software)
45. [PS2] Yakuza 2 (Playstation 2 The Best) (SEGA)
46. [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo)
47. [NDS] Taiko Drum Master 2: The Seven Island Adventure (Namco Bandai)
48. [PSP] Mimana: IYAR Chronicle (GungHo Works)
49. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
50. [NDS] Momotaro Dentetsu 20th Anniversary (Hudson)

Code:

[B][U]Hardware | This Week | Last Week |   YTD   |    LTD    [/U][/B]
NDS      |    47,601 |    51,814 | 779,417 | 25,899,060
PS3      |    36,513 |    16,149 | 232,001 |  2,854,429
PSP      |    35,588 |    29,552 | 476,922 | 11,840,941
WII      |    17,876 |    16,973 | 319,866 |  7,798,767
360      |    11,795 |    25,334 | 110,867 |    941,407
PS2      |     5,099 |     5,029 |  55,896 | 21,455,420
--------------------------------------------------------
DSi      |    35,827 |    41,839 | 611,153 |  1,842,520
DSL      |    11,774 |     9,975 | 168,264 |

SOFTWARE | HARDWARE | CONSOLES | HANDHELDS

donny2112 · Mar 6, 2009

PantherLotus said:
45. [PS2] Yakuza 2 (Playstation 2 The Best) (SEGA)

Yakuza (BEST Reprint)

It came out on the same day as Yakuza 2 (BEST).

Edit
Third-Party games released this year that have charted in the MC Top 50

Wii (5)
Fragile: Farewell Ruins of the Moon
Haruhi Suzumiya no Gekidou (The Excitement of Haruhi Suzumiya)
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time
Dead Rising: Chop Til You Drop
One Piece Unlimited Cruise: Episode 2

PS3 (10)
Fallout 3
Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm
Race Driver: GRID
Prince of Persia
WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2009
Tomb Raider: Underworld
Midnight Club: Los Angeles
Street Fighter IV
Sonic Unleashed
Yakuza 3

360 (10)
Race Driver: GRID
Left 4 Dead
Ninja Blade
Midnight Club: Los Angeles
Skate 2
Street Fighter IV
DoDonPachi Dai-Oujou Black Label Extra
Star Ocean 4: The Last Hope
Chaos;Head Noah
Way of the Samurai 3

PS2 (7)
Dance Dance Revolution X
Harukanaru Toki no Naka de: Yumenoukihashi Special (Floating Bridges of Dreams Special)
World Soccer Winning Eleven 12: PES 2009
Kidou Senshi Gundam: Giren no Yabou - Axis no Kyoui V
Clear: Atarashii Kaze no Fuku Oka de (The New Wind Blowing Through the Hills)
Sacred Blaze
The King of Fighters 2002 Unlimited Match

smh x 10,000

Edit2:
For reference, the DS has 15, and the PSP has 13 with the same criteria.

velvet_nitemare · Mar 6, 2009

I figured i'd ask here. Do we know what console games Atlus are making after Devil summoner 2? I'm hoping they finally move on to current gen development. As much as i loved their PS2 games, i wanna get excited for a totally new engine and new monster designs for the next SMT/Persona.

DarkMehm · Mar 6, 2009

At least the DS und the PSP have a valid excuse of why they are down. Both are over 4 years old, one is almost at 26m, the other at 12m. They aren't on their last breath, but a slow down is more than natural.

bttb · Mar 6, 2009

Moor-Angol · Mar 6, 2009

neojubei said:
I wonder if microsft have anything "planned" for April in Japan.

Death Smiles, presented by Cave

icecream · Mar 6, 2009

That's not exactly going to burn up the charts.

11eyes Cross Over will

deepbrown · Mar 6, 2009

PantherLotus said:

Code:

[B][U]Hardware | This Week | Last Week |   YTD   |    LTD    [/U][/B]
NDS      |    47,601 |    51,814 | 779,417 | 25,899,060
PS3      |    36,513 |    16,149 | 232,001 |  2,854,429
PSP      |    35,588 |    29,552 | 476,922 | 11,840,941
WII      |    17,876 |    16,973 | 319,866 |  7,798,767
360      |    11,795 |    25,334 | 110,867 |    941,407
PS2      |     5,099 |     5,029 |  55,896 | 21,455,420
--------------------------------------------------------
DSi      |    35,827 |    41,839 | 611,153 |  1,842,520
DSL      |    11,774 |     9,975 | 168,264 |

So if you seperate the DS's....the PS3 was the best selling games hardware?

Moor-Angol · Mar 6, 2009

icecream said:
That's not exactly going to burn up the charts.

but it will move hardware up

cause all Cave lovers who sold their 360 after DoDonPachi Black Label infamous porting will buy the system again :lol

spwolf · Mar 6, 2009

deepbrown said:
So if you seperate the DS's....the PS3 was the best selling games hardware?

yay

Moor-Angol · Mar 6, 2009

360 will overpass million mark probably during Golden Week (or before)

i wonder how many of us would have thought that 4 years ago...

king zell · Mar 6, 2009

first day sales

Biohazard 5 : 278k (222k PS3, 56k X360)

bttb · Mar 6, 2009

Psychotext · Mar 6, 2009

Hmm... I don't know why but I expected more from RE5.

pseudocaesar · Mar 6, 2009

king zell said:
first day sales

Biohazard 5 : 278k (222k PS3, 56k X360)

I expected the ratio, but not the numbers.

Edit: Who the hell was it that said they were selling at the same rate anyway?

Aeana · Mar 6, 2009

That's actually better than I expected for 7th Dragon. I remember reading that one of the retailer guys who posts on 2ch said Sega was expecting around 150k for it in the end, though... I hope it ends up selling more so they don't see it as a failure!

Game is sooo good.

Kurosaki Ichigo · Mar 6, 2009

More from RE5? Seriously? Reality check, first day comparisons:

2005年01月：GC「Resident Evil 4」117,000
2005年12月：PS2「Resident Evil 4」145,000
2007年05月：Wii「Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition」27,000
2007年11月：Wii「Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles」53,000
2009年03月：PS3「Resident Evil 5」222,000
2009年03月：360「Resident Evil 5」56,000

It beats RE4 first day combining GC and PS2 versions with a year difference between them.

Also from sinobi, Etrian Oddysey first day numbers, to compare with 7th Dragon 60k:

2007年01月：DS「Etrian Oddysey」22,000
2008年02月：DS「Etrian Oddysey 2」52,000

zsidane · Mar 6, 2009

Good numbers for RE5. It will be interesting to see the hardware numbers for the PS3 and 360.

Fafalada · Mar 6, 2009

Kurosaki Ichigo said:
first day comparisons:

Sort of related, but - was DMC4 higher or lower last year?

jj984jj · Mar 6, 2009

Awesome starts for RE5 and 7thD.

Kurosaki Ichigo · Mar 6, 2009

Fafalada said:
Sort of related, but - was DMC4 higher or lower last year?

Quite lower. PS3 140k, 360 30k, so 170k total.

slaughterking · Mar 6, 2009

bttb said:
First Day Sales (03/05)

[NDS] 7th Dragon (Sega) - 60k

Wow, thats awesome. Exceeded my expectations by quite a bit.

zsidane · Mar 6, 2009

pseudocaesar said:
I expected the ratio, but not the numbers.

Edit: Who the hell was it that said they were selling at the same rate anyway?

Someone reading it on famitsu website?

Kenka · Mar 6, 2009

Yeah to everything.

deepbrown · Mar 6, 2009

Kurosaki Ichigo said:
More from RE5? Seriously? Reality check, first day comparisons:

2005年01月：GC「Resident Evil 4」117,000
2005年12月：PS2「Resident Evil 4」145,000
2007年05月：Wii「Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition」27,000
2007年11月：Wii「Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles」53,000
2009年03月：PS3「Resident Evil 5」222,000
2009年03月：360「Resident Evil 5」56,000

It beats RE4 first day combining GC and PS2 versions with a year difference between them.

Also from sinobi, Etrian Oddysey first day numbers, to compare with 7th Dragon 60k:

2007年01月：DS「Etrian Oddysey」22,000
2008年02月：DS「Etrian Oddysey 2」52,000

So 360 and PS3 beat the PS2's install base?

cvxfreak · Mar 6, 2009

That's a fantastic start for Biohazard 5 on both platforms. I just hope it has far better legs than SFIV. :lol

Kurosaki Ichigo · Mar 6, 2009

deepbrown said:
So 360 and PS3 beat the PS2's install base?

Install base? I'm not sure they beat GCN install base at that time combined.

cvxfreak · Mar 6, 2009

Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Install base? I'm not sure they beat GCN install base at that time combined.

Hey, Biohazard 5 360 beat UC's first day so 360 must be better than Wii!

neojubei · Mar 6, 2009

pseudocaesar said:
I expected the ratio, but not the numbers.

Edit: Who the hell was it that said they were selling at the same rate anyway?

:lol

Code:

First Day Sales (03/05)

[PS3] Resident Evil 5 (Capcom) - 222k
[360] Resident Evil 5 (Capcom) - 56k

Anyone thinks that RE5 will sell a combined 400,000 in its first week?

Psychotext · Mar 6, 2009

Kurosaki Ichigo said:
More from RE5? Seriously? Reality check, first day comparisons

There wasn't any basis in reality. I just expected more... no reasoning behind it.

deepbrown · Mar 6, 2009

spwolf said:
yay

:lol I like seeing 360 and PS3 beat the Wii in Japan week after week

deepbrown · Mar 6, 2009

Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Install base? I'm not sure they beat GCN install base at that time combined.

Sorry I mean, they beat the sales of RE4, despite a much smaller install base...considering the PS2 was out in 2001

RpgN · Mar 6, 2009

bttb said:
First Day Sales (03/05)

[PS3] Resident Evil 5 (Capcom) - 222k
[360] Resident Evil 5 (Capcom) - 56k
[NDS] 7th Dragon (Sega) - 60k

http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-10219230414.html

Great numbers all around especially for 7th Dragon. I was afraid it would bomb like other DS rpgs lately.

u_neek · Mar 6, 2009

neojubei said:
:lol

Code:

First Day Sales (03/05) [PS3] Resident Evil 5 (Capcom) - 222k [360] Resident Evil 5 (Capcom) - 56k

Anyone thinks that RE5 will sell a combined 400,000 in its first week?

That sounds quite possible.
PS3 version will probably end up around 300k-330k and the 360-version just under 100k (I'm guessing ~80k) for the first week.

Magicpaint · Mar 6, 2009

GREAT start for RE5.

I'm also pleased with 7th Dragon's first day sales. I half expected bomba.

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